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Language crimes

SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
First off: yes, language is descriptive not prescriptive. Yes, language is constantly evolving and there are no wrong ways to use language as long as everyone involved understands what's being said.

Having said that, there are some things I cannot stand and never will, no matter how common and accepted they become. Using "videoed" instead of "recorded," using "lived" when you mean "survived," and if course, the horrible awful no good apostrophe used on a plural, instead of a possessive.

Use this thread to complain about people using language in a way that drives you up the wall, or just tell me I'm a curmudgeonly sick-in-the-mud.
Either is fine.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    The French

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Our slang is good and right, the kids slang is perverse and wrong

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I don't like it when people write come when they mean cum no thank you milord

  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    Dutch is a deeply unserious language.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Every local area's name

    I'm glaring super hard at you, Squim
    Spelled Sequim

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Oh also "unalived" or "seggs" or anything that spawned to get around internet algorithm censors.

    I get it but also I hate it and think you're a coward and a lickspittle for letting a computer scare you.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    "I could care less" and the rhetorical knots people tie themselves into trying to defend it rather than just admitting that it's wrong and they don't care

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    Dutch is a deeply unserious language.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Oh also "unalived" or "seggs" or anything that spawned to get around internet algorithm censors.

    I get it but also I hate it and think you're a coward and a lickspittle for letting a computer scare you.

    I know this a jokey post, but unalive is a stand-in for the word suicide and those words allow content creators to make videos on those difficult subjects and not get immediately scrubbed away by the algorithm. So like, calling someone who just wants to talk about their suicidal feelings a coward feels like, pretty harsh, and I know that's not what you really meant but I'd just be aware the phrasing here felt just a bit off

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Shit was that a language crime what I just did there

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited November 21
    Oh yeah I know why it started and I hold no ill will towards that, but I do not EVER see it used in that context any more. It's morphed into an unironic slang term for literally any example of death nowadays.

    I'm also just mad we've bowed to a corporate system that is so shotgun style draconian in it's censorship you can't talk about actual real things with actual real words without being weirdly cutesy to dodge the Machine. Like those face scramblers to beat facial recognition. Its another notch in the dumbest possible cyber dystopia we've created.

    Edit: I actually think the term may have originally started with an animated Disney Spiderman cross over with Deadpool or something? As a dig at Disney censorship? Then it got picked up by the Tik Toks?

    Double edit: yeah this

    https://youtu.be/kwLboKsDo6o?feature=shared

    Juggernut on
  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    First off: yes, language is descriptive not prescriptive. Yes, language is constantly evolving and there are no wrong ways to use language as long as everyone involved understands what's being said.

    Having said that, there are some things I cannot stand and never will, no matter how common and accepted they become. Using "videoed" instead of "recorded," using "lived" when you mean "survived," and if course, the horrible awful no good apostrophe used on a plural, instead of a possessive.

    Use this thread to complain about people using language in a way that drives you up the wall, or just tell me I'm a curmudgeonly sick-in-the-mud.
    Either is fine.

    I hate when people say "piña" to refer to pineaples, its "Ananá", we invented the thing, we call it Ananá, theres other things called piña, stop trying to colonize our fruits.

    Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
  • Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    When people say

    "Forgive me father, for I have sinned"

    When they mean

    "Sorry Daddy, I've been naughty"

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I am somehow 100% pro language evolving, and also 100% a language rules freak.

    Roughly 75% of my mental bandwidth every day is consumed with resisting the urge to correct people who 'misuse' less/fewer.

    Also ages ago I learned that "X is comprised of 3 things" is wrong and it should either be "X is composed of 3 things" or "X comprises 3 things" and that knowledge has been a fucking curse I tell you what.

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Also: Kansas and Arkansas. What the actual fuck.

  • Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    Also: Kansas and Arkansas. What the actual fuck.

    https://youtu.be/bQ2DfYB3JQU?si=8si0761Ics_eJUOh

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Shit was that a language crime what I just did there

    Yes, it literally was

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The confusion of “lose” and “loose” always burns my grits

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Lose lips sink boats

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    That’s a command

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  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular
    I used to hate neologisms, but I eventually came around to the idea that language is ever changing, and that I need to get used to the idea of new words and new slang populating our collective vocabularies. Then I went further, and realized that there’s no reason to leave making up new words or expressions to other people and to just accept them; I can fab new logs myself, and that’s green.

    Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Irregardless. I don't care how many people use it, or how many Nobel prizes you have won, if i hear you say that i am going to assume you are an idiot and nothing else you do or say will convince me otherwise. Most other things i can let slide, but that one just gets me worked up every time.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    huh, I don't think I've ever seen/heard anyone say 'video' as a verb like that

    I've got a writing/linguistics background so I'm pretty chill when it comes to a lot of the standard bugbears

    but the one that comes to mind is when people write 'of' instead of 'have' as in 'I could of done that'

    it makes total sense why people do it but that one really bugs me more than it should (of)

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    The thing I hate the most is when terminology dilution makes actually useful phrases useless.

    "Gaslighting", a specific kind of abuse or sustained behavior, is used to mean "anything mildly deceptive or not fully honest". "Narcissist", a diagnosis that was already misunderstood, is now a generic way of labeling selfish people or even people who don't like you as ontologically evil, similar to how "sociopath" was used before. "Emotional labor" is dead in the ground as a concept because it got broadened to mean "anything that's stressful". Real, useful terms were overused out of functional existence.

    I ate an engineer
  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Oh also "unalived" or "seggs" or anything that spawned to get around internet algorithm censors.

    I get it but also I hate it and think you're a coward and a lickspittle for letting a computer scare you.

    While this is mostly true, mattress actress, to get around porn star being banned is very fun to say.

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I'll let it slide but it's on thin ice.

  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    if it's on thin ice it probably slides very well, that's true

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Magell wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Oh also "unalived" or "seggs" or anything that spawned to get around internet algorithm censors.

    I get it but also I hate it and think you're a coward and a lickspittle for letting a computer scare you.

    While this is mostly true, mattress actress, to get around porn star being banned is very fun to say.

    I'm fine with stuff like this or even unalived, because that feels to me like using language still, you're using the other tools that language has given you to create an easily understood meaning

    Seggs is just lazy, fuck off with that shit

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    All words are made up

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I appreciate when mixed metaphors actually make sense together like this
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I'll let it slide but it's on thin ice.

    I have a bad habit of mixing metaphors a lot that do not rise to this level of quality so bravo

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Alot.

    I saw some graffiti at work that said, "Josh loves Glen alot" so of course I scrawled below it, "A lot is two words" and some dickhead came along later and smeared my helpful message 😤

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited November 21
    Alot pronounced like shallot

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited November 21
    Unrelated to language, but I love graffiti (unless it's some racist/homophobic/etc shit)

    I saw one carved into a strip of trim or something on a gas station wall in Washington that said, "Eat ass like a boss" and I think about it a lot

    edit: I just remembered I took a pic lol. Some guy walked in while I was doing so and I panicked and ran away

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    Darmak on
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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    It looks like somebody added "a boss" separately; maybe it was the first graffito and the "eat ass like" was added later

    Or maybe the original scribe realised they were running out of time and rushed to finish

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I appreciate when mixed metaphors actually make sense together like this
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I'll let it slide but it's on thin ice.

    I have a bad habit of mixing metaphors a lot that do not rise to this level of quality so bravo

    I did this on purpose, yes.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    It looks like somebody added "a boss" separately; maybe it was the first graffito and the "eat ass like" was added later

    Or maybe the original scribe realised they were running out of time and rushed to finish

    Exactly, this is one of the reasons why I love graffiti

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  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Quetzi wrote: »
    Magell wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Oh also "unalived" or "seggs" or anything that spawned to get around internet algorithm censors.

    I get it but also I hate it and think you're a coward and a lickspittle for letting a computer scare you.

    While this is mostly true, mattress actress, to get around porn star being banned is very fun to say.

    I'm fine with stuff like this or even unalived, because that feels to me like using language still, you're using the other tools that language has given you to create an easily understood meaning

    Seggs is just lazy, fuck off with that shit

    I'm fairly relaxed about language stuff.

    But, back in the Diablo 2 days a lot of people (Europeans possibly?) would use 'dudu' instead of druid in the chat, and it drove me crazy. It's barely shorter! It's not clever!

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