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Yeah, I personally like this as a broad dividing line for political threads because I think the sort of "DND Politics" threads and "SE Politics" threads we usually see slot pretty well into one of the other, so it's a good way to keep the general flavor of each without absolutely mashing together the most contentious spaces on the forums.
Ehh, it's close enough. They are threads that are limited exclusively to active players. I don't think that boardgames, mafia and TTRPG are really fundamentally different types of threads
I regret to inform you all that this isn't feasible in XF.
That's pretty surprising. What's the major obstacle there?
With these constraints in mind, the only solution is:
If we reduce the scope of pseudo-tags to just the main thread listing it's not too bad, we'd need to take some manual precautions against malicious HTML entered into thread titles, but there's no singular place we can fix it and see the results everywhere it winds up getting rendered.
Huh. Maybe it actually is worthwhile to just throw it in Javascript on the front end then? It wouldn't be particularly heavy code wise, just won't work for anyone with JS disabled.
Do any sites still work well with javascript disabled?
I know that used to be a thing, but nowadays everything is so reliant on it.
I'm thinking if we want a robust 'ignore thread' function we really need tags for each general thread topic, as well as the general genre News/PbP/chat etc ones.
Like if I don't like Magic: the Gathering, it would be cool to block the [MtG] tag and never see any of those threads ever again.
And maybe that's cause I spent too much money on cardboard and I don't want to relapse, or maybe it's because I only play it to hurt myself and that doesn't jive with the conversation in that thread, or maybe it's because I just want to make space for other threads whose topic interests me, or whatever.
But I do think that people have been removing themselves so as to block out specific threads, through self-bans and the like, that having topical tags that can be ignored is rather something that should be included in the forum from day one.
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thread tag so that I know which threads are good to read?
Well, are threads getting recycled at 100 pages?
Because if we are closing threads when they get too long (something that I also think is a good idea to help people jump into threads for the first time), then we're still exposing people to those threads unwillingly each time they're recreated.
And that would be solved with specific ignorable tags following the thread each time it is renewed.
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/ignore-content.6538/
This is the backbone of that plan. It's going to take some testing to figure out whether this covers people's bases. If you have specific scenarios you want me to investigate, please let me know.
Edit: I might actually make this a new thread. It's kind of related to tags, but it's related to a lot of other stuff, too.
How often does the MtG thread get recreated? Like, is the lift of having to tag a topic and manage topic tags worth it?
I think there's some weight to what discrider is asking, but also, while one of our main goals has been to enable everyone to customize their experience on Coin Return to their preference as much as possible, there are certain things where we just have to balance the practicality and logistics. Requiring every thread to have a unique topical tag is a big ask, and will mostly unnecessary clutter to the tag list, which could hinder the more practical, every day uses for tagging. As much as I empathize, I think that having to re-ignore a topic a couple of times a year when the thread respawns isn't the biggest ask of the minority of folks who might want it always out of sight.
But also, we'll keep digging into our options and looking into what capabilities we can employ with addons like the one Delz linked above -- maybe we'll find some other options that might make it even more painless for everyone.
It would depend on the topic and the activity in the thread.
To pick a less me example, we're heading into a Trump presidency, and I can imagine some people wanting to disengage with news on awful-thing-Trump-did-today.
I would expect such threads to maybe clock up 100 pages in a week during busy times.
There has been talks of having some page limit, (and 100 pages was a popular one) This was to prevent megathreads that can be very intimidating. A way to recycle threads is in the works, because this is not supposed to be a burden.
So, it's "in the works"
In those instances, I would think a "Politics" tag ignore would work pretty well. Or it's probably also reasonable to have a "Trump" (or similar) tag on politics threads focused around the current administration since there would likely be several threads with slightly different focuses and scopes.
You're not wrong, but it's galling that "Trump" would get his own tag.
No nicknames please
So while I might have [MtG] ignored, others can have it watched and immediately receive notifications from New threads when those threads are created, rather than having to find the new thread themselves (or without having to search for the tag manually).
Just to be triple sure I'm in every [Phalla]
The big ridiculous movers in D&D this year were the election campaign threads, which usually took about a month to hit 100 pages.
Anything faster than that tends to be big single-event threads that a lot of posters are heavily engaged in, like the thread for the election itself (which hit 100 pages in two days due to a lot of people liveposting their actions/reactions to the day along with the results) or other big events like the presidential debates, which are usually one-and-dones that get locked after a few days when they start drifting into being general discussion threads.
Looking back the January 2017 threads were ridiculous sub-week firehoses given the amount of incredulous live-reacting to everything going on with his cabinet and the like. After that - and again, aside from individual major events - things largely slowed down to about a month or two per thread per topic for the Russia investigations and other big ongoing events.
Once the bulk of the cabinet and the initial EO firehose are out of the way I expect to see a similar pace going forward - people are a mix of jaded from his previous term, exhausted from the last few months, and frankly unsurprised about what the man's going to do this time around.
US Executive is probably the way to go on this account anyway. US Congress and SCOTUS have their threads, may as well square the circle.
Basically, only the "I am Bizzaro Stormy" threads?
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this gives the user full control of their own experience, avoids false positives, and doesn't require tags covering every conceivable gap
Yeah I feel like the tags should be fun, like [Barbie] [Foosball] [Sausages]
We could just tag presidential. I feel like the odds of him living much past his term are slim, and we can revisit then.
While I don't think people shouldn't be allowed to spend all their days venting and ragging on how bad they feel a thing is or how awful its trajectory is going, etc, etc... it's kind of tedious having to read through it or try to steer a subject another way only to have it go back because somebody just got an engagement-bait push notification or w/e. On that note, and I don't know if it has been asked or where to ask, but for topics would it also be possible to have a topic exist in these two states? Like... the net result for me has been to simply participate and be around less. If such a thread is low engagement or it dies, it dies... but at least there would be another option. If there is a thread that I should put this latter comment into, lmk.
My farming thread will go to 999
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Not really. I don't expect thread length guidelines to change from what we have here. Long running threads should be refreshed voluntarily once they hit 100, fast moving threads can use a Gort command to lock and elect new thread creators