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Claiming your PA Username on Coin Return

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited January 8
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

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    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.

  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Bowen wrote: »
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.

    I kinda hope a lot of current mods are retained to CR if only for the reason that I think they'll really appreciate the new UX by comparison

  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited January 8
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Bowen wrote: »
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.

    I kinda hope a lot of current mods are retained to CR if only for the reason that I think they'll really appreciate the new UX by comparison

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    Bowen wrote: »
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.
    Part of it is that PA's version of the forums is super-customized, to the point where some of the options and add-ons say "Custom PA Addon" or something similar. It hasn't been maintained at all since IcyLiquid left.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bowen wrote: »
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.

    It was always a weird situation because the PA Forum Vanilla is basically Vanilla that has been heavily modified and frankensteined to act like vBB. And from what I remember, it was basically an agreement between PAcorp and Vanilla that Vanilla got to use this community as a live production testbed in exchange for a lower fee or whatever, so in addition to being a more difficult branch of their code to maintain, we were/are also not exactly a profit center for Vanilla, so once Icy was gone the forum no longer got any actual Vanilla code support and just started drifting through the stars.

    edit: what Hahnsoo said, basically

  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Bowen wrote: »
    destickying a thread is incredibly dumb in vanilla. logic would have you assume you use the menu that has options like stickying, dismissing, and sinking (making it so new posts don't bump it), etc. But you'd be wrong!

    Everything about vanilla strikes me as the worst way to design a forum.

    It makes a whole lot of sense if you're selling forums as a monthly software package though, because you need to keep getting those payments to keep things working.
    Part of it is that PA's version of the forums is super-customized, to the point where some of the options and add-ons say "Custom PA Addon" or something similar. It hasn't been maintained at all since IcyLiquid left.

    A lot of those are also still weirdly modular. I can't remember if it was you or another that talked about how DM/PMs were extra.

  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Let's be real, in America you're expected to still work if you get hit by a bus. If you win the lottery, you're now rich and working is for the poors.

  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    Let's be real, in America you're expected to still work if you get hit by a bus. If you win the lottery, you're now rich and working is for the poors.

    I mean, that is very real.
    Also... possibly not the thread you thought you were posting in?

  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Those don't appear on the json version (eg https://forums.penny-arcade.com/profile/discussions/delzhand/.json) and I'm not interested in parsing html.

    But if someone wants to write a snippet of PHP to handle that I'm willing to integrate it.

    @Delzhand Did you ever get the code to scrape badges or whatever? If not, what exactly are you looking for out of that screenshot Bowen posted?

  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Yup, Bowen provided some code and I integrated it. Legacy Badgers will be imported along with your other data, assuming your profile is public when you register!

  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited January 24
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Yup, Bowen provided some code and I integrated it. Legacy Badgers will be imported along with your other data, assuming your profile is public when you register!

    Clarification: Is that Public-when-you-register proviso relevant for all migrated user content, such as join dates, etc., not just Badgers?

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Yes, it's a one time operation that just uses the credentials of a logged in regular user. With a public profile at the moment of registration, you get:

    Title/Location: migrated, user editable
    Join Date: migrated, not currently editable
    Legacy Badgers/Post Count: migrated, admin/moderator editable
    Reaction Score: currently bugged - I discovered that XF actively recalculates your score, so while it might get migrated it gets stomped on pretty fast
    Avatar: not migrated (too much of a hassle, sorry, and setting up an avatar is like the first thing the beta users tended to do anyway)

    This is subject to change, but at some point prior to open registration I'll lock it down.

  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited January 24
    The tail end of 2024 and 2025 has been weird for me and it hasn't even been really a full month.

    I've done approximately 500% more web development and scraping/integration/parsing than I have done the past 20 years of my professional career combined, even at work I'm doing loads of it for some reason suddenly. (we're not really a web shop)

    Bowen on
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Is there a timeline on this?

  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Is there a timeline on this?

    The total timeline is available here:
    https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/252904/coin-return-a-progress-bar-and-timeline

    This is probably the part you're most interested in:


    Move in Day for the New Forums - We plan to open the doors and begin letting folks move over to the brand new Coin Return Forums at least a couple of months before the lights go out on the PA forums. We'll need time to ensure all users who want to claim their username on the new forum can be properly authenticated, and there are bound to be some initial hiccups as we onboard hundreds, or potentially thousands of users. We do not want to cut this too close. For this reason we hope to start this by late March.

  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    This feature specifically, is mostly functional, though I did introduce some bugs by moving some files around this weekend. I also want to add a feature to let people manually re-sync their own data, because if someone registers while their profile is private and misses out on their data, it would be ideal if they didn't need me to clean up. That would also let people re-sync their post count/reaction score closer to launch, if anyone cares about being that accurate.

  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Will there be any way for someone to claim their PA name and account info (posts count, reaction count, etc) after PA Forums are closed?

  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Will there be any way for someone to claim their PA name and account info (posts count, reaction count, etc) after PA Forums are closed?

    It would be a technical impossibility, since the system relies on pulling that info from our Vanilla database here on PA. Once that’s offline, the door is shut to any automated process.

    The only possible arrangement might be (and this is not something heavily discussed or finalized, purely hypothetical) allowing people to claim old PA usernames if they can be positively vouched for by (multiple?) other members who know them. But even if we did that it would be a manual case-by-case arrangement, and there would be no way to retrieve their post counts, badges, join date, etc. — just the user name itself.

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
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