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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

    Fischl has a couple ways to build her, but usually yeah you just set and forget. She can be fun with superconduct if you give her Rust, she's like a machine gun. Just absolutely destroys stuff.

    But then I also enjoyed overload with Fischl and Yanfei. Something about the chaos as everything just flew everywhere was very satisfying.

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

    The weird thing when I used her is the bird and her Super were only there like 4 seconds at max but the wiki page says it's supposed to last a LOT longer

    Oz should definitely stay on field for a good 10 seconds, even after you switch characters. The large bird from her burst only lasts for about 2 seconds (and as I said, you can reduce that further by switching characters), but the important part is that it leaves Oz on the field afterwards.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

    The weird thing when I used her is the bird and her Super were only there like 4 seconds at max but the wiki page says it's supposed to last a LOT longer

    Her burst doesn't last long but Oz the magical electro turret bird does. Maybe you somehow didn't even notice the bird? He isn't very big.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Mirkel wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

    The weird thing when I used her is the bird and her Super were only there like 4 seconds at max but the wiki page says it's supposed to last a LOT longer

    Her burst doesn't last long but Oz the magical electro turret bird does. Maybe you somehow didn't even notice the bird? He isn't very big.

    It's possible! I do love that you can shoot him to make him explode.

    Its such a strange gimmick. Her other passive of Oz dropping lightning on electro reactions is more useful though.

    Fischl does three things mainly:
    Oz creates a relatively large number of particles while applying electro at a decent rate
    c1 lets Fischl do machine gun things when Oz is down, not usually how she is built but it gives her high physical damage
    c6 makes Oz also chase all attacks with more lightning and makes Fischl top tier off field electro application in addition to the energy generation

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    she waits at the precipice, fate hangs in the stars

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Watched a whale video featuring Dehya taking on Abyss 12.

    It was more of a Rosaria and Bennett showcase

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Shenhe only needs Liyue materials but her main thing is being a big boost for Cryo, which is why you go for Ayaka first then maybe Shenhe.

    Shenhe’s boss is in Enkanomiya.

    I really hate how a units boss materials are dictated by when they came out instead of their nationality

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'll need to look into how I was supposed to play Fischl because I have no idea what that bird was doing

    Lisa works really well with a Frozen team since her R1 takes so long to go off. it does bug the crap out of me that she slowly backs up when you use her normal tho

    Fischl is definitely a "set it and forget it" type of character. She drops Oz and switches off to another character, and Oz will do his thing without you really having to worry about him. Her burst is pretty much only used as a way to set Oz again and improve his uptime; you can immediately cancel the animation of her burst by switching to another character. Considering how little time she needs to spend on field to do her job, she is extremely efficient.

    Fischl has a couple ways to build her, but usually yeah you just set and forget. She can be fun with superconduct if you give her Rust, she's like a machine gun. Just absolutely destroys stuff.

    But then I also enjoyed overload with Fischl and Yanfei. Something about the chaos as everything just flew everywhere was very satisfying.

    My other big problem is have have no bows whatsoever to give her; even any on the low tier list of weapons good for her.

    Slingshot and the Recurve Bow (EM stat) are 3* and both good bows that will work fine for Fishl.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Shenhe only needs Liyue materials but her main thing is being a big boost for Cryo, which is why you go for Ayaka first then maybe Shenhe.

    Shenhe’s boss is in Enkanomiya.

    I really hate how a units boss materials are dictated by when they came out instead of their nationality

    Enkanomiya is a really annoying fight too.

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Shenhe only needs Liyue materials but her main thing is being a big boost for Cryo, which is why you go for Ayaka first then maybe Shenhe.

    Shenhe’s boss is in Enkanomiya.

    I really hate how a units boss materials are dictated by when they came out instead of their nationality

    Enkanomiya is a really annoying fight too.

    it at least has some pretty badass boss music

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    The best part of that whole episode to me was the prize being announced while they all stand there out of breath, sweaty, and tired:
    Tickets to another escape room!

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    So tangentially related to D20, the Worlds Without Number Podcast with Brennan, Erica, Lou and Aabria are doing long form Lets Play (versus the short scripted stuff on D20) and if nothing else, pay the $5 and get the first 8 prequel "children's story" episodes from the patreon feed. It is amazing and heartbreaking in equal measure. Its SO good. like holy fuck.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    edited April 19
    So Grim Guardians got delisted on a few digital platforms. Turns out to be a side effect of Inti Creates having to change the name because of a trademark conflict:

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    XBL: Stealth Crane PSN: ajpet12 3DS: 1160-9999-5810 NNID: StealthCrane Pokemon Scarlet Name: Carmen
  • edited April 18
    The latest episode of Neverafter
    oh my god, every single one of these social interactions is so insanely bad that Gerard somehow managing to effectively get his wife to divorce him a second time isn't even the worst conversation in the episode

    truly incredible stuff, amazing what you can do to unravel your players just with the power of staring at them as they keep saying things

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    So the battel pass has a "get 12 stars in the abyss" but people HAVE to have maxed that out by now. is there a way to re do stuff to get stars again or something?

    First, the top 4 floors of the abyss reset their rewards twice per month. So, I will get those 12 stars for the battlepass just by clearing that. Second, I think re-doing floors you've actually completed does work for completing this battlepass objective.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    So the battel pass has a "get 12 stars in the abyss" but people HAVE to have maxed that out by now. is there a way to re do stuff to get stars again or something?

    First, the top 4 floors of the abyss reset their rewards twice per month. So, I will get those 12 stars for the battlepass just by clearing that. Second, I think re-doing floors you've actually completed does work for completing this battlepass objective.

    That's weird, mine have never reset and I did them a LONG time ago. The only one I can do is floor 5 and I can't quite get that one

    I'll try tonight anyway

    The floors that reset are 9-12.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I completely ignore the abyss. And routinely don't do the 50 wishes task. I still max out the pass with 2-3 weeks to spare. Don't feel like you have to do them at all.

    I probably should do the abyss. I know I'm just leaving those primogems on the floor. But meh.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    Do they put any of the D20 stuff up in podcast form?

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  • KandenKanden Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    there's audio feeds in the dropout app I think

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    i do up to floor 11.. but i've just given up on 12. my thumbs are worth more than 50-100 primos >.>

    i've never found the challenge of floor 12 to be 'interesting'... it's just a pure HP spongery whale-check.
    even when i have pretty decent units that go with the spiral blessing.. i've still never really managed more than 3 stars easily.

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Xantus wrote: »
    i've never found the challenge of floor 12 to be 'interesting'... it's just a pure HP spongery whale-check.
    I don't agree with this, but I do understand that there's plenty of people who don't like the abyss, or don't like floor 12 specifically. That's fine.

    I'm not FTP, but I'm definitely a very low spender. I enjoy building really strong teams, so I really like how the higher abyss floors reward me for that. I feel like it would be underwhelming if the difficulty capped out at what floor 11 is, because the DPS requirements for that floor are pretty lenient for good teams. The fact that my Dehya team absolutely annihilated floor 11 in this cycle despite being unoptimized, and... you know, Dehya, is pretty telling to me.

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  • RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    I got through the whole Abyss once, just for the trophy. Now when it resets I just clear floors 9 and 10 for the rewards. I’ve gotten a lot more powerful so I could probably manage 11, but often I just don’t want to make the effort.

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Xantus wrote: »
    i've never found the challenge of floor 12 to be 'interesting'... it's just a pure HP spongery whale-check.
    I don't agree with this, but I do understand that there's plenty of people who don't like the abyss, or don't like floor 12 specifically. That's fine.

    I'm not FTP, but I'm definitely a very low spender. I enjoy building really strong teams, so I really like how the higher abyss floors reward me for that. I feel like it would be underwhelming if the difficulty capped out at what floor 11 is, because the DPS requirements for that floor are pretty lenient for good teams. The fact that my Dehya team absolutely annihilated floor 11 in this cycle despite being unoptimized, and... you know, Dehya, is pretty telling to me.

    well sure i could definitely try harder.. but i think what it is .. is that the time challenges of floor 12... just highlight all the little annoying issues that the combat system has. there's all these little ways in which it's just not smooth.
    maybe i've just been a bit spoiled by how much more polished PGR and Honkai are when it comes to the "hard" content, that's where my energy's gone lately.

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Xantus wrote: »
    Xantus wrote: »
    i've never found the challenge of floor 12 to be 'interesting'... it's just a pure HP spongery whale-check.
    I don't agree with this, but I do understand that there's plenty of people who don't like the abyss, or don't like floor 12 specifically. That's fine.

    I'm not FTP, but I'm definitely a very low spender. I enjoy building really strong teams, so I really like how the higher abyss floors reward me for that. I feel like it would be underwhelming if the difficulty capped out at what floor 11 is, because the DPS requirements for that floor are pretty lenient for good teams. The fact that my Dehya team absolutely annihilated floor 11 in this cycle despite being unoptimized, and... you know, Dehya, is pretty telling to me.

    well sure i could definitely try harder.. but i think what it is .. is that the time challenges of floor 12... just highlight all the little annoying issues that the combat system has. there's all these little ways in which it's just not smooth.
    maybe i've just been a bit spoiled by how much more polished PGR and Honkai are when it comes to the "hard" content, that's where my energy's gone lately.

    There's definitely a lot of instances in the abyss where chambers are just far more annoying than they have any right to be. I'm personally fine with high DPS requirements (as long as they aren't so high that the require people to pay, obviously), but I have issues when enemies spawn at opposite corners of the arena in waves, just to waste your time running around. Or using combinations of enemies that are designed to repeatedly freeze you. Or bosses with constant downtime. And god help me if we see another floor that inflicts Slowing Water, Condensed Ice, or Engulfing Storm.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
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  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    edited April 18
    Game Changer: Escape the Greenroom is utter joy. Instant favorite.

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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    After one shot the Kings have more goals than the Sharks last game.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Death taxes and the 2023 pittsburgh penguins blowing a 2 goal lead against the islanders

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    Game Changer: Escape the Greenroom is utter joy. Instant favorite.

    I still think GameChanger: Survivor from last season is my absolute favorite, but Escape the Greenroom is up there. Hell episode 1 season 1 the lie detector is an all time great.

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