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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Xantus wrote: »
    im kind of impressed that after all this time, i'm still c0 Lisa. what have i done to forsake lord rngesus? c4 kaeya at least ;D

    I've been playing since...Ganyu's first banner, I think? Maybe the tail end of Albedo's first banner, it was January of 2021. I have...C2 Amber. Never in all that time have I gotten a Lisa or Kaeya and I use my Starglitter for Wishes, so

    i am absolutely saving starglitter for characters only; the pay out is much much better I think having not done any math on it whatsoever

    It very likely is, pretty much everyone you can buy with Starglitter is fairly solid to busted, especially with constellations. The only ones to avoid are Barbara (since you will get C6 Barbara from banners even if you don't want her) and arguably Amber. Ningguang is niche but good and everyone else has a place now, even Razor.

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Xantus wrote: »
    im kind of impressed that after all this time, i'm still c0 Lisa. what have i done to forsake lord rngesus? c4 kaeya at least ;D

    I've been playing since...Ganyu's first banner, I think? Maybe the tail end of Albedo's first banner, it was January of 2021. I have...C2 Amber. Never in all that time have I gotten a Lisa or Kaeya and I use my Starglitter for Wishes, so

    yeah ive thrown a fair few primos at the blue banner too, also only c2 amber.. c3 noelle.
    at least I can always count my blessings that I am still only c0 qiqi >.>

    i wish i could get c4 dori but is she ever gettting a rerun? ;/

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    spool32 wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Talka wrote: »
    Weird. I can’t imagine Emily hate.

    That said, her Crown of Candy
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    character is one of my least favorite characters of any player from any season. Largely by design, the character felt unearned emotionally and mechanically, in ways where Emily’s strengths actively worked against her.

    Outside of that one counter-example, Emily’s characters are normally the highlight of any given season, either D20 or NADDPOD, and I genuinely cannot fathom anyone not loving her as a player. I’m honestly shocked that’s a sentiment that exists, and I just don’t get it.

    I'm surprised as well that she would gather a lot of online hate, but then I remember there's a subset of players out there who are nothing but crochety, rules lawyering grognards who can't stand when a player or DM pushes the boundaries of a role playing game, especially when its a woman, and has fun.

    This is an unnecessarily antagonistic take imo. D&D is not players vs DM and I think at times, at least in the sessions I've watched, Emily crosses the line between creative boundary pushing and "my character can do anything because this is all make believe right?"
    I have a very rules-light GMing style with a lot of 'rule of cool' but players who want to win D&D are not well suited for my table. I would struggle with Emily and probably end up checking her in the same way Brennan has done a couple of times, by asking her to ground her requests in a character's personality and abilities rather than in pure imagination. Guardrails and rules are what make D&D what it is, and when you disregard them too much you end up not playing a TTRPG and instead playing that improv game where the host rings a bell to force a new line in your scene.

    Mechanical boundaries are good, actually.

    Oh I agree. I don't have a problem with boundaries in the game or playing by the rules, but I also understand that ultimately this is content generating, cooperative story telling that needs some flexibility from time to time, and the DM deserves some leeway for judgement calls and allowing characters to really shine. But there is a certain type of player haunting social media, who apparently thinks the entire thing should run like a staid boardgame and any variance or fudging of things is not allowed. Maybe it's not as bad lately, but I remember constantly running into it on Aquisition's Inc.'s early videos.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    I find that long skill cooldowns can be mitigated by having multiple characters to rotate through and that cooldown is forgotten.

    Except Childe. His cooldown gets long, but I'm so close to his C6.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Xantus wrote: »
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Xantus wrote: »
    im kind of impressed that after all this time, i'm still c0 Lisa. what have i done to forsake lord rngesus? c4 kaeya at least ;D

    I've been playing since...Ganyu's first banner, I think? Maybe the tail end of Albedo's first banner, it was January of 2021. I have...C2 Amber. Never in all that time have I gotten a Lisa or Kaeya and I use my Starglitter for Wishes, so

    yeah ive thrown a fair few primos at the blue banner too, also only c2 amber.. c3 noelle.
    at least I can always count my blessings that I am still only c0 qiqi >.>

    i wish i could get c4 dori but is she ever gettting a rerun? ;/

    When I say Wishes, I mean Purple wishes, though I've probably gotten some blues here and there when I was close to 5-star pity for all the good that's done. (3 Wolf's Gravestones since the start of the game as my only five star weapons from it. Only got an Amos Bow because I missed on the Weapon banner for it. p a i n )

    Dori's probably due for a rate-up soon. She's not exactly popular but, well, that's never stopped them before. We're almost certainly getting a Nahida rerun in 3.6 and I would be surprised if she wasn't on that one.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    spool32 wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Talka wrote: »
    Weird. I can’t imagine Emily hate.

    That said, her Crown of Candy
    Saccharina
    character is one of my least favorite characters of any player from any season. Largely by design, the character felt unearned emotionally and mechanically, in ways where Emily’s strengths actively worked against her.

    Outside of that one counter-example, Emily’s characters are normally the highlight of any given season, either D20 or NADDPOD, and I genuinely cannot fathom anyone not loving her as a player. I’m honestly shocked that’s a sentiment that exists, and I just don’t get it.

    I'm surprised as well that she would gather a lot of online hate, but then I remember there's a subset of players out there who are nothing but crochety, rules lawyering grognards who can't stand when a player or DM pushes the boundaries of a role playing game, especially when its a woman, and has fun.

    This is an unnecessarily antagonistic take imo. D&D is not players vs DM and I think at times, at least in the sessions I've watched, Emily crosses the line between creative boundary pushing and "my character can do anything because this is all make believe right?"
    I have a very rules-light GMing style with a lot of 'rule of cool' but players who want to win D&D are not well suited for my table. I would struggle with Emily and probably end up checking her in the same way Brennan has done a couple of times, by asking her to ground her requests in a character's personality and abilities rather than in pure imagination. Guardrails and rules are what make D&D what it is, and when you disregard them too much you end up not playing a TTRPG and instead playing that improv game where the host rings a bell to force a new line in your scene.

    Mechanical boundaries are good, actually.

    It's been a while, but I don't recall this happening much with Emily, at least not any more than with anyone else? Do you have any specifics we can argue about? o:)

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  • edited April 18
    Here's the main thing: Dimension 20 is on a comedy network, and all of the main cast are professional comedians, including Brennan. That doesn't mean that they won't do emotional storylines or attempt to tell compelling stories in combat, but it does mean that they're occasionally gonna jettison the rules for a minute if they think the bit is funny enough. I like Fantasy High season one is good stuff, but it's also their first season together doing a show like that, and you can see everyone settling in and figuring out what kind of show they're putting together, and that includes, "hey, how far should I push this bit," and "how much wiggle room should I give the players."

    Regarding Emily specifically: one of the reasons she's among the best at that table is that while she will constantly try to push the limits of what her characters can do, she'll also drop it if the ruling isn't in her favor, or, and this is the more common outcome, when things go immediately sideways, she's as delighted as anyone else that she's now in a very stupid situation. The real key to being a good, "hey, but if I do this, this and this, can this wild thing happen?" sort of player is accepting that, "no, you can't," or "no, but this'll happen if you do."

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yeah, it looks like Nahida and Nilou will be getting reruns in 3.6. Baizhu will be second half, which is very funny.

    "Baizhu fans waited so long, they can wait a few more weeks."

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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    My first Avs game and Johansson is in net. Well damn lol

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  • RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Sorry Baizhu, all my primos will be going towards the attempt to upgrade Nahida’s constellation. You snooze, you lose.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    It's beating a dead horse at this point but the Dehya they have as a Trial character is just....confoundingly bad. Like, they know she has a banner up still, right? With the intent to sell her? So they decide to put her in an event:

    -with the goal of creating elemental reactions (which she is bad at)
    -with the same (bad) artifact set she has in the Test Run (Tenacity of the Milileth with not great stats)
    -with The Bell (It's not even good on her! The weapon effect has ACTUAL ANTI-SYNERGY WITH HER!)

    In all seriousness, do they actually know how the character they designed works? Like they have to, right? And yet we get...this.

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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    There is a guy wearing a Leafs Mats Sundin jersey with a Senators logo on it and I have so many questions.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    It's beating a dead horse at this point but the Dehya they have as a Trial character is just....confoundingly bad. Like, they know she has a banner up still, right? With the intent to sell her? So they decide to put her in an event:

    -with the goal of creating elemental reactions (which she is bad at)
    -with the same (bad) artifact set she has in the Test Run (Tenacity of the Milileth with not great stats)
    -with The Bell (It's not even good on her! The weapon effect has ACTUAL ANTI-SYNERGY WITH HER!)

    In all seriousness, do they actually know how the character they designed works? Like they have to, right? And yet we get...this.

    Her weapon also has anti-synergy in the trial. If Noelle's shield is up, Dehya's sword's ability stops.

    It's just bad.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    Also, at least in the later seasons of D20, with all the fancy combat sets and stuff, is the story is heavily scripted, so while everyone has a fair amount of leeway, they also know they need to get from A to B to C. I think there is probably a bit of fun in pushing Brennan right up against the edges of script he is trying to stick to.

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    i mean if they were real game designers then dehya would probably be the point where they'd finally revisit the whole ICD system and throw it out the window for more *fun*. instead of the whole "this character is bad because of arbitrary differences of 0.5-1 seconds in timing"

    (and omg plz when can we see cooldown timers or at least a ring-timer for non-active characters e-skills??)

    that aside, i'm still having a blast with deyha + mona + heizou + sayu (c6 sayu + the new event weapon is pretty beast)
    the 3 of them are so powerful that deyha's just there to look cool once in a while.
    at least they got the dashing during her ult right. i've been able to not die in peak of vindagyr pretty easily without having to break burst

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Holy shit what a game! My heart hasn’t pounding like that since Game 6 of the finals.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Jayricho wrote: »
    There is a guy wearing a Leafs Mats Sundin jersey with a Senators logo on it and I have so many questions.

    Please tell me you got a picture!

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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    chromdom wrote: »
    Jayricho wrote: »
    There is a guy wearing a Leafs Mats Sundin jersey with a Senators logo on it and I have so many questions.

    Please tell me you got a picture!
    Had to zoom as far as I could but I got one lol

    Also cropped down to get within forum regulations dhhwq3t0fym2.jpeg


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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited April 14
    Is there a reason to not immediately use the character XP items/books that I get?

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Elki wrote: »
    Is there a reason to not immediately use the character XP items/books that I get?

    Yes, but generally when starting out you want to conserve those resources and spend them only on your primary DPS character (the one you play as the most) and then on the other three support characters. This is the advice I followed when I started a few months ago.

    https://youtu.be/HzZdEezYPR4

    It's broken down into each range of progression based all the way up to maximum level. By following it I was able to keep up with the game as difficulty increased without ever feeling weak, and I was using a unit that is not much known for its combat strength (Jean) so an actual DPS character would do even better.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Jayricho wrote: »
    chromdom wrote: »
    Jayricho wrote: »
    There is a guy wearing a Leafs Mats Sundin jersey with a Senators logo on it and I have so many questions.

    Please tell me you got a picture!
    Had to zoom as far as I could but I got one lol

    Also cropped down to get within forum regulations [i mg]https://us.v-cdn.net/5018289/uploads/editor/sg/dhhwq3t0fym2.jpeg[/img]


    ......what

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    ok i'm gonna ask

    why no black folks in genshin?

    "Because China" seems as good of an explanation as you're going to get. Although it's a common issue in many Japanese games, too. The few darker toned people we have either live in a desert (and even then, should definitely be far darker than they are), or are Xinyan. And I don't really know what Xinyan's deal is, to be honest.

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  • XantusXantus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    ok i'm gonna ask

    why no black folks in genshin?

    And I don't really know what Xinyan's deal is, to be honest.

    xinyan is exactly the kind of character that comes out of people asking questions like this lol
    designed by committee to try to appeal all bases, but just comes out a hot mess.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Xinyan as a character is great. As a gameplay device, not so much.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 14
    Beasteh wrote: »

    Based on the visual style of this game I did NOT expect the soundtrack to go this HARD, holy shit

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    That's wild! I love it! I am laughing out loud, laughing my ass off. I am smiling and crying at laughing so much. If only there were abbreviated, perhaps graphical ways of expressing this. But that's a subject for another thread.

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    If you don't have Mountain get him from the shop.

    Got Saga as my guarantee from the new banner so I'm out of rice and soybeans now.

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  • ZomroZomro Registered User regular
    edited April 18
    Brennan is an especially capable DM / GM and that lets the players get creative and chaotic without creating a lot of friction. And Brennan is really good at redirecting that chaotic energy. Emily, to me, seems pretty considerate, so I have a feeling she wouldn't push as far with a newer, inexperienced DM. That's my read, anyway.

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  • JayrichoJayricho Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    I had to take the picture and send it to a buddy who’s a Leafs fan. He summed it up simply as “that jersey is cursed”. He did find the toque hilarious though.

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  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Some strong bandwagon merchandise purchases from Wish.com energy

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Jayricho wrote: »
    I had to take the picture and send it to a buddy who’s a Leafs fan. He summed it up simply as “that jersey is cursed”. He did find the toque hilarious though.

    My leafs fan friend's text to me after sending him a picture was "That is a war crime"

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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    edited April 18
    Thawmus wrote: »
    My understanding is that Emily Axford actually had quite a bit of D&D experience going into Fantasy High, as well, and had GM'd several games of her own.

    That was also how I read her requests, was a former DM asking if she could do an outlandish thing and willing to accept absolutely stupid consequences for it in the name of fun.

    She was pretty new as of Fantasy High. There's a clip from a one on one with Brennan and Lou where he talked about the test game he ran with her and some others where he murdered the NPC she latched onto as a twist ending to the session and how they all "got" DnD from that.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Everyone has a theory, be it outright racism, 'standards of beauty' (which is also racism, just with a nicer name), them just not thinking about it, etc. I just think it's unconscious bias and being bad at gameplay design on a (completely self-inflicted) tight schedule. I think they have no problem making dark-skinned characters (though Dehya getting lightened from her original show-off is bad) but I don't think they are concerned with making them good, which is also the problem.

    Sumeru has been heavily uneven from the start with characters. Dendro MC was finally decent for once. Four stars were bad, Like, Collei and Dori were miserable, meanwhile Tighnari was strangely very good. Then Candace came out and she was also bad, but she was a 4 Star and they'd been bad for a while now so we just thought that was going to be the thing. But then Cyno was also not very great and Nilou was very niche (niche enough that she couldn't even fit in the role they designed for her because there weren't enough Dendro characters yet). It kinda just seemed like the quality of characters was declining overall.

    Then we got Nahida, who was broken and Layla who was pretty good, which skewed the whole thing. Then we went back to Wanderer and Faruzan who were not great and pretty bad respectively. (Bad because she's only 'complete' at C6) And then Alhaitham and Yaoyao, who were very good. And then Dehya. Who is Dehya.

    It's really, really easy to draw parallels to which characters ended up bad and which were good and make inferences based on that. Considering how it worked out, I'm certainly not discounting it as an option. i imagine if we looked at Inazuma, we could draw similar parallels, too, that just kinda make it seem like the devs are just not good at making games, which ends up in a lot of characters coming out poor. (And frankly, we do have plenty of proof that they basically forced their own hands several times to get things out the door despite them not being finished correctly.) But there's also an absurd amount of care in everything else about the characters, so it's hard to say they just outright hate them. Like, arguably everything with Dehya is fantastic except her kit and like anything to do with the gameplay in general. I just dunno what it really is.

    It just sucks in general. I rationalized it all out but it still pisses me off enough that I honestly could just drop the game entirely and I still might. It's a fact that Xinyan's kit doesn't make sense and has been outright broken since she came out. (They 'fixed it' but the 'fix' is still ping-dependent so it's not really fixed) It's a fact that Candace's kit is just not great because it's literally just a rehash of an already not-widely-used character because his kit isn't great (Chongyun) with arguably more niche use. It's a fact that Cyno is just very easily replaced, so even if he's solid mechanically, he isn't ever the 'best' fit for his own spot. Kaeya is arguably the best of them (still easily replaceable) but he was in the release when they visibly had less idea of what they were doing and kits were stronger as a result. So it's really hard to say there isn't something going on, it's just a matter of if they know it or not and, at this point, if they're intent on course correcting or they're just going to keep doing what they're doing. The Cyno/Dehya double-banner is the worst-selling one in the game's history and it's not even close, relatively. So that's definitely incentive for them to fix it. But they've also historically displayed that they don't really give a fuck what the playerbase thinks, so...who knows.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Bennett was considered crap by people who didn't know how to play. Anyone paying attention to mechanics thought Bennett, Xingqiu, and Fischl were going to be amazing from the start.

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    edited April 18
    There is a discussion between Brennan and Murph on Adventuring Academy, where Murph said that Brennan was Emily and his first DM and they played a 3.5 game only a few years before Fantasy High started:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8VqiswElI (right at the start)

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