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I've considered her. She's normally not that exciting for Noelle because Noelle's attack speed is so low (barring Yun Jin's C6). But if I want to make a team with just two geo characters, she might be better than Gorou.
That one slide justified the entire rest of the episode/series. Old Loki, despite his immortality, was about quick fixes and paths to power. Now, not so much.
I do wonder if Loki
I assume she lives her chosen boring life.
But she probably went back to McDonald's.
To paraphrase:
First as farce, second as tragedy
Jean is apparently the flavor of healer everyone likes, but I’m preferring Baizhu actually. I like applying dendro more than yeeting everyone across the map.
I gave him Sac Fragments, and even way underlevel with bad artifacts he’s holding his own.
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Any other cast and this might have fallen on it's face, but the chemistry of these folks generally worked.
I think the important thing is that he sees all of Prime Loki's redemption in the viewing room and comes to realizes that all his schemes are for naught. He's actively trying to be a better and more thoughtful person from the season 1 finale on.
The fact that, in the finale
That was the loom's doing. That's what it does.
HWR is a massive dick and
I think I agree with the Polygon review. There was potential with this season, but it fell really flat for me.
That's fair. I read the Polygon article and it seemed like they wanted Doctor Who. It isn't Doctor Who. Doctor Who can spend whole episodes, or even dozen+ episode seasons, answering questions about characters or phenomena or long-running plots. Loki got 12 episodes total and if you're not down for the streamlined pace, I can see how it might be jarring.
I was able to accept that Loki internalized his errors (Sif loop), the errors of his prime timeline self, and the many, many failures of his variant bretheren at the end if time. A little narrative shorthand does not bother me.
Like, I was able to accept, in The Marvels, that
So I guess I was once again the mark for one of these shows.
It's this season's DB Cooper moment.
More importantly,
No spoilers, just Tom being charming.
I just gotta gush about the God of Stories ending a bit more...it is the definition of satisfying and it does so much lifting. It eliminates the nigh-omnipotent Loki as a character without having to kill him. It completes his arc of wanting to be a king, understanding what that truly means (all burden, no glory). It's admirable because it's a sacrifice akin to Hollow Knight or Wrath of the Lich King, but not as depressing as either of those because his new existence isn't actually that bad. It's a sacrifice because he didn't want to be alone, but also in a way he's not alone, because he gets to be part of every story now, even if no one knows it. It also solves the Multiverse Problem by giving us a reason to care about the different outcomes while also being able to forget about them if we want. It leaves things open for the Multiverse Saga while still being a good ending of it's own if that Saga winds up being terrible.
I was also super jazzed to see Yggdrassil because Loki hasn't really felt connected to Norse Mythology since, like, ten minutes into Thor 1. I always thought the "70s, J. Edgar Hoover building" look of the TVA was weird because you'd expect the explanation for that sort of place to be "this is how your human mind is rationalizing this infinite place", but Loki isn't human and that's not a type of location that would mean anything to him. So it would have been cool if the "new TVA" was themed with Asgardian aesthetics, with the staff dressed like Norns or something. But that would've been a bit much. It at least brings Loki back to feeling like a fantasy Viking god while still connecting to the overall themes of the show.
On a story level, this is what happened in the ending: after going through what amounts to centuries of trying to stop the Loom from exploding, through repeated conversations with He Who Remains, Loki is able to figure out that the Loom is a failsafe: when it explodes, it kills every other timeline except for the Sacred Timeline anyway. Thus, Loki chooses a different ending: he explodes the Loom, but grabs as many dying timelines as he can, keeps them alive, and gathers them unto himself into a large World Tree of timelines where he will sit on a throne for the rest of existence, so that the TVA can now track and hunt Kang variants.
On a storytelling level, the mechanics of “how” aren’t as important if the theme is resolved in a good way, which some folks struggle with because they get caught up in the logic of plot lines, which is why there are constant discussions about quote unquote plot holes and relative character power levels. I think it’s okay to hand wave a bit of logic in stories in cases where it is more thematically appropriate to be a little bit illogical.
The end result of everything is that there is a multiverse, but also a finite multiverse. In that it exists in as many branches as Loki was able to grab. Any branches he couldn't are dead and gone. That solves the scaling issue. It "solves" the Kang issue only as much as it means there are now a finite amount of him. From an outside narrative standpoint, it means writers can write about any different universe they want, with the reasoning being it's just one of the many branches Loki is holding.
So effectively what we have created is finite infinity.
Is that about it?
To quote from the show itself because I cannot possibly see this line as being anything but a direct statement about the story, "with science it's all 'what?' and 'how?', with fiction it's 'why?'."
This is a show messing with time and multiverses using characters from comic books and movies. All that is a framework for the "how?" to give a logical flow of events, but the point is always the why. The technical points of where the show goes literally don't matter, it's the why the show goes where it does that matters.
So here's my other question that I didn't realize was bugging me till now. Sylvie was supposed to be a Loki variant which.. fine... but then her "place" is just working at McDonald's in the 80s?
I guess my point was, they didn't 100% make it clear whether she just chose to insert herself there and serve burgers and drink whiskey rather than returning to be a Loki variant elsewhere? I don't know, can't frame my thoughts here well, but most of this season she felt more like an impetus for Loki rather than a character with volition of her own. Even Renslayer seemed to be making more of her own choices.
For Sylvie
She's practically immortal so she parks herself at a spot where nothing fucking matters. Screw up an order? Oh well, nobody cares. Late to work? Meh. Seems to me like she's simply... decompressing from living decades or centuries of life on the run. And eventually she'll reach the end of her time there and move on to something else, but the point is she gets to choose where she is and what she's doing.
Which makes an interesting point against Loki. Younger Loki desperately wanted that throne and would do anything to get it. Sylvie desperately wanted to kill the man on the throne so she could get as far as possible from being obligated to control anything.
Sylvie
She chose McDonald's in the 80s because she wanted something that wasn't an apocalypse that she spent her life in previously, hiding from the TVA.
But when Mobius asks her what's next for her, she shrugs. Maybe she's going back to Micky D's, maybe she'll roam the timelines like Kane in Kung Fu roams the Old West. Maybe she'll go looking for Renslayer at the end of time for revenge or mercy. The point of all of this, and what she wanted all along, was to make her own decisions. And now she can. This was her origin story, but it's not HER story. This show is titled "Loki," and that is a name she has forsaken. "Sylvie" has yet to be written. The God of Stories now makes it possible.
Minor quibble: