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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Let's see if I can do an elevator pitch for Gridman.

    In the early 90s, there was a live action toku show called Hyper Agent Gridman. You might recognize the combat footage as having been adapted in the west into Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad starring Matthew Lawrence and Tim Curry. I don't really know the details of how a 39-episode Japanese show was adapted into a 53-episode American show, but that's what happened.

    25 years later, SSSS.Gridman, the first anime season, released. It's technically a sequel to the live action show, but it's mostly a new cast and setting so you don't really need to have seen the original show. It's mostly just references that you can find out later if you want. They even reference Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad at times, though mostly just visual references and not any plot elements.

    Despite being an anime that is done by Trigger, the giant monsters are animated as if they are guys in rubber suits.

    On the surface, the show is about some high schoolers where one transforms into Gridman to fight giant monsters that attack the town. But there are a lot of weird things going on that will be revealed over time.

    No wait, you can't get out of the elevator yet.

    A few years later they did SSSS.Dynazenon which is a new setting with a new cast (though some characters from the first season cross over) which focuses on some other elements from the original show that weren't in the first season. I also like the hero cast better in this season. Unlike the first season where one of them turned into Gridman, in this season all of them get to pilot vehicles that combine into Dynazenon.

    Then this year, Gridman Universe released which combined everyone from both seasons of the show. It's basically Trigger thinking of every cool thing they could possibly do, and then figuring out how to jam it into a two-hour movie.

    And if that isn't enough, here's the official music video for the theme from the movie (though it only uses scenes from the two anime seasons, and they're so rapidly cut and without context you shouldn't have to worry about spoilers unless you're really good at inferring stuff):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4vjI6InDJM

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  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Lars wrote: »
    Let's see if I can do an elevator pitch for Gridman.

    In the early 90s, there was a live action toku show called Hyper Agent Gridman. You might recognize the combat footage as having been adapted in the west into Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad starring Matthew Lawrence and Tim Curry. I don't really know the details of how a 39-episode Japanese show was adapted into a 53-episode American show, but that's what happened.
    25 years later, SSSS.Gridman, the first anime season, released. It's technically a sequel to the live action show, but it's mostly a new cast and setting so you don't really need to have seen the original show. It's mostly just references that you can find out later if you want. They even reference Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad at times, though mostly just visual references and not any plot elements.

    Despite being an anime that is done by Trigger, the giant monsters are animated as if they are guys in rubber suits.

    On the surface, the show is about some high schoolers where one transforms into Gridman to fight giant monsters that attack the town. But there are a lot of weird things going on that will be revealed over time.

    No wait, you can't get out of the elevator yet.

    A few years later they did SSSS.Dynazenon which is a new setting with a new cast (though some characters from the first season cross over) which focuses on some other elements from the original show that weren't in the first season. I also like the hero cast better in this season. Unlike the first season where one of them turned into Gridman, in this season all of them get to pilot vehicles that combine into Dynazenon.

    Then this year, Gridman Universe released which combined everyone from both seasons of the show. It's basically Trigger thinking of every cool thing they could possibly do, and then figuring out how to jam it into a two-hour movie.

    And if that isn't enough, here's the official music video for the theme from the movie (though it only uses scenes from the two anime seasons, and they're so rapidly cut and without context you shouldn't have to worry about spoilers unless you're really good at inferring stuff):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4vjI6InDJM

    The same way you do Power Rangers, by hiring English-speaking actors to sit in interstitial scenes around the battle scenes, crafting your own story using the battle scenes as backdrop/payoff.

    I should watch more SSSS.Gridman. I started the show a while ago and then forgot it over other things.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I meant more like how they stretched out the footage.

    With Power Rangers, at first Saban contracted more battle footage to be made for the Zyuranger suits so they could make more episodes, and then they just started using footage from other Sentai after Zyuranger.

    But for Gridman there was just the one show, so they must have reused some battle footage quite a bit to stretch an extra 14 episodes out of it.

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  • IronKnuckleIronKnuckle This is also my fault Registered User regular
    edited April 13
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  • J-bobJ-bob J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Also this is this original opening song for Hyper Agent Gridman.

    https://youtu.be/nybqhMbWTOI?si=pNXFP-oSk7N8xYkB

    It's not necessary to enjoy the anime but it fucking whips.

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    wait they made a gridman movie? nice

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    crwth wrote: »
    wait they made a gridman movie? nice

    Yeah they do a great job of smashing the toys together along with having some additional weird shit. I'd imagine it is complete nonsense if you haven't seen both anime seasons though. Very pretty, though.

    Also at one point you can see Delicious in Dungeon airing on TV behind some characters, which is Studio Trigger's next project.

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    dungeon meshi fucking owns

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  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Lars wrote: »
    I meant more like how they stretched out the footage.

    With Power Rangers, at first Saban contracted more battle footage to be made for the Zyuranger suits so they could make more episodes, and then they just started using footage from other Sentai after Zyuranger.

    But for Gridman there was just the one show, so they must have reused some battle footage quite a bit to stretch an extra 14 episodes out of it.

    Oh yeah. Pretty sure it did reuse footage or broke fights in one episode in the source show into multiple ones in SSSS.


    Now anyone watching any of the current airing anime shows? I'm keeping caught up on Apothecary Diaries, I Shall Survive Using Potoins and Shangri-La Frontier.

    Apothecary is by far my favorite of the three but Shangri-La is pretty good for its basic plot synopsis. It's also the two shows with the best openings!

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    destroyah87, not watching Frieren? its the highlight of the season imo

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I love when fantasy shows are allowed to just be a fantasy show without isekai or video game mechanics shoved into it for no reason

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Much like JJK and several other shows, the more full pages I see taken up by nothing but Frieren spoilers, the less likely I am to ever watch it.

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  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Naphtali wrote: »
    destroyah87, not watching Frieren? its the highlight of the season imo

    I really should. It's been nothing but praised in my hearing.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Much like JJK and several other shows, the more full pages I see taken up by nothing but Frieren spoilers, the less likely I am to ever watch it.

    aw

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Much like JJK and several other shows, the more full pages I see taken up by nothing but Frieren spoilers, the less likely I am to ever watch it.

    That's your loss. No one's spoiling it, it just means it's a popular show. More often than not, this thread's been correct in recommending quality stuff.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Naphtali wrote: »
    destroyah87, not watching Frieren? its the highlight of the season imo

    Mostly I know I'm not emotionally capable of dealing with a show about someone coping with the mortality of the people they've lost right now, which appears to be what Frieren is about from the blurb.

    It does sound good, but just, like... not right now.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Drascin wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    destroyah87, not watching Frieren? its the highlight of the season imo

    Mostly I know I'm not emotionally capable of dealing with a show about someone coping with the mortality of the people they've lost right now, which appears to be what Frieren is about from the blurb.

    It does sound good, but just, like... not right now.

    That's the first two episodes or thereabouts, but the series as a whole is more about appreciating the time you have with people right now in the moment so you don't have those regrets when they're gone.

    It also has one of the best takes on what a "demon" is that I've seen in fantasy media.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Madican wrote: »
    Drascin wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    destroyah87, not watching Frieren? its the highlight of the season imo

    Mostly I know I'm not emotionally capable of dealing with a show about someone coping with the mortality of the people they've lost right now, which appears to be what Frieren is about from the blurb.

    It does sound good, but just, like... not right now.

    That's the first two episodes or thereabouts, but the series as a whole is more about appreciating the time you have with people right now in the moment so you don't have those regrets when they're gone.

    It also has one of the best takes on what a "demon" is that I've seen in fantasy media.

    The writer must be a big SMT fan. It's also got some amazing magical duels, definitely not what I expected.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Lars wrote: »
    I meant more like how they stretched out the footage.

    With Power Rangers, at first Saban contracted more battle footage to be made for the Zyuranger suits so they could make more episodes, and then they just started using footage from other Sentai after Zyuranger.

    But for Gridman there was just the one show, so they must have reused some battle footage quite a bit to stretch an extra 14 episodes out of it.

    Oh yeah. Pretty sure it did reuse footage or broke fights in one episode in the source show into multiple ones in SSSS.


    Now anyone watching any of the current airing anime shows? I'm keeping caught up on Apothecary Diaries, I Shall Survive Using Potoins and Shangri-La Frontier.

    Apothecary is by far my favorite of the three but Shangri-La is pretty good for its basic plot synopsis. It's also the two shows with the best openings!

    Apothecary's been fine. I wish the mysteries were more focused on/better developed, especially since they keep teasing them as big things with dramatic cliffhangers, only to unceremoniously resolve them as almost an aside. Shy's been fairly disappointing to me after a decent start. The most recent episode was an almost shot for shot redo of a previous episode, and it doesn't seem to want to commit to either the superhero stuff or the character stuff, resulting in neither really going anywhere. The Vampire Princess show is... okayish. Would be greatly improved if its arcs were two episodes each instead of four, but it at least has a story and some character stuff going on.

    I'm pretty checked out of this season though. My tolerance for shounen is extremely low, and those shows seem to have sucked up all the budget (and oxygen) for the next couple months. And I'm including Frieren in that. I know everybody else has been going nuts about the latest arc, but there's quite a lot that I found pretty distasteful about it, and the last episode I think may have been the final straw for me.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Tearmoon Empire has been a fun comedy so far.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Yeah Shy seems to have absolutely no fuckin idea of what it actually wants to be. It's charming enough but there's just nothing there, it's almost worse than actually being bad.

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  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Which show is Shy? I don’t recognize the shorthand.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Which show is Shy? I don’t recognize the shorthand.

    It's not shorthand. It's literally named Shy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAgisWONxs

    https://myanimelist.net/anime/53237/Shy

    E:
    And here's the Vampire Princess one too, since that was shorthand. It has kind of the same issue where it's largely pissing about and only gets to the good stuff every fourth episode or so, but actually finished an arc and is well into its second now while Shy is still waffling around. But its baseline is a lot more fanservicey comedy and the whole setting/writing just makes no sense whatsoever.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8q-jWzQos
    https://myanimelist.net/anime/54103/Hikikomari_Kyuuketsuki_no_Monmon

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I remember seeing the manga of shy floating around a few years ago, it seems like it wants to do the my hero academia superhero thing but as I recall the first few chapters weren't nearly as deftly written. I assume it found its footing eventually since it's still being published but it didn't hook me with the start.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I love when fantasy shows are allowed to just be a fantasy show without isekai or video game mechanics shoved into it for no reason

    I know it’s an Isekai, but I like Handyman Saitou for this.

    Dude is fairly useless outside of repairing things and being helpful to his party members. Iirc there’s no game mechanics (outside of one off references for a gag), cheat abilities, or other Isekai tropes shoved into it outside of Saitou himself. The first few episodes are vignettes of Saitou’s crew and other characters delving in a State Run dungeon.

    Adding that one to the list.

    I think I only like Isekai because there's not enough fantasy anime in general. Slayers and Lodoss War are what brought me to anime, and I have a hard time finding anything that hits either of those notes.

    Mushoku Tensei is getting real close for me though.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    One of the new characters this season in sailor moon just used their signature callout attack- Star Gentle Uterus

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gridman Universe is indeed awesome and fun, but it is definitely not trying to catch you up if you didn't watch Gridman and Dynazeon.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gridman talk reminds me I really really wish that the official North American Blu-ray wasn’t using TOKU HD’s really shitty and possibly machine translated subs

    Just completely awkward as hell

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    That's always super frustrating as someone who vastly prefers subs. My Japanese comprehension isn't great, but its slowly getting to the point where I can go "wait, what they're saying outloud and what the subs are saying don't match at all".

    Disgaea 5 was really bad for this - I'm pretty sure the English script was quite different to the Japanese VA

    Benefits of mainlining too much anime & toku across the years, I guess?

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    On a different note, I've been doing a start to finish reread of Full Metal Alchemist, which remains one of the finest comics ever produced. Just top shelf stuff

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    This was particularly weird with Trails in the Sky because the japanese sub is extremely simplified compared to the english localisation. They spent a huge amount of time localising it and sometimes they totally rewrote what was being said to match a similar tone in a way that works naturally in English. They also made the story better in a lot of ways.

    So a character would say this really cool line that is an entire paragraph in English and the japanese sub just said "Hai"

    It kind of worked but also it was pretty weird sometimes.

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I am currently buying hardcover editions of Full Metal Alchemist manga, which are currently being released in my country.

    Yesterday I received volume 3, which is
    Hughes death, and brothers + Winry witnessing the child's delivery

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 13
    This was particularly weird with Trails in the Sky because the japanese sub is extremely simplified compared to the english localisation. They spent a huge amount of time localising it and sometimes they totally rewrote what was being said to match a similar tone in a way that works naturally in English. They also made the story better in a lot of ways.

    So a character would say this really cool line that is an entire paragraph in English and the japanese sub just said "Hai"

    It kind of worked but also it was pretty weird sometimes.

    The Trails in the Sky localisation is one of my all-time favourite localisations of anything, ever.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    That's always super frustrating as someone who vastly prefers subs. My Japanese comprehension isn't great, but its slowly getting to the point where I can go "wait, what they're saying outloud and what the subs are saying don't match at all".

    Disgaea 5 was really bad for this - I'm pretty sure the English script was quite different to the Japanese VA

    Benefits of mainlining too much anime & toku across the years, I guess?

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    On a different note, I've been doing a start to finish reread of Full Metal Alchemist, which remains one of the finest comics ever produced. Just top shelf stuff

    Yeah it’s just… it’s crap all around. It’s often very literal and stilted, the grammar is horrendous and there’s no real attempt at preserving the character of voice or tone of the performances so it’s all so very flat.

    Several of the official releases for the Ultra series that TOKU HD got their hands on first are the same, which baffles me how Mill Creek and Tsubaraya let all that happened; I have to wonder if it was not wanting to pay for a new pass or if there’s some bizarre licensing issue involved.

    TOKU HD also has the rights to Kamen Rider Agito and Kamen Rider Faiz and Faiz at least is plagued with an even worse translation.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Anzekay wrote: »
    This was particularly weird with Trails in the Sky because the japanese sub is extremely simplified compared to the english localisation. They spent a huge amount of time localising it and sometimes they totally rewrote what was being said to match a similar tone in a way that works naturally in English. They also made the story better in a lot of ways.

    So a character would say this really cool line that is an entire paragraph in English and the japanese sub just said "Hai"

    It kind of worked but also it was pretty weird sometimes.

    The Trails in the Sky localisation is one of my all-time favourite localisations of anything, ever.

    Yeah it's really good. I like the japanese voices accompanying it because sometimes I like the japanese version of certain small interactions, but overall the English localisation is superior.

    I basically pick and choose my canon from the best of both worlds.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Frieren chapter 117:
    Making implied things explicit, huh? I like the direction this arc has taken.

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 13
    Anzekay wrote: »
    This was particularly weird with Trails in the Sky because the japanese sub is extremely simplified compared to the english localisation. They spent a huge amount of time localising it and sometimes they totally rewrote what was being said to match a similar tone in a way that works naturally in English. They also made the story better in a lot of ways.

    So a character would say this really cool line that is an entire paragraph in English and the japanese sub just said "Hai"

    It kind of worked but also it was pretty weird sometimes.

    The Trails in the Sky localisation is one of my all-time favourite localisations of anything, ever.

    Yeah it's really good. I like the japanese voices accompanying it because sometimes I like the japanese version of certain small interactions, but overall the English localisation is superior.

    I basically pick and choose my canon from the best of both worlds.

    Yeah. I watch a lot of dubbed anime because I just tend to watch stuff while I'm doing other things, or because I'm watching something with animation or visual detail that I want to pay close attention to and subs can be a bit distracting for my brain. Sometimes I also just like a dub more! Sometimes I like a sub more but watch the dub for some other reason. Sometimes I like both equally and end up watching a show twice haha

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Much like JJK and several other shows, the more full pages I see taken up by nothing but Frieren spoilers, the less likely I am to ever watch it.

    this is 100% bozo behavior im afraid 😔

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 13
    It's okay Reynolds, we can always watch Virtua Fighter again.

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