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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    enc0re wrote: »
    This is a massive tangent, but as pro labor as I am, I do think there are some jobs that should not be permitted to unionize. I haven’t fully thought it through, but basically I draw the line if you are authorized to enact state violence.

    Military, police, prison guards; I want them to be treated well and have good jobs. I am not comfortable with those positions being unionized.

    Considering the form each of those exist in and the actual necessity of such, this is less an arguement against unions and more that significant reform is needed with regard to state violence (totally fucking true)

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    A few shows have done the hour episode thing, and generally I don't love it. Pluto episodes felt uncomfortably long and not well paced to me, for example. However... I think Solo Leveling should have considered doing hour episodes, because this pacing is wretched. The first episode was a nothing burger that didn't even reach the basic premise you'd read in the synopsis. The second episode did, but then immediately cut off mid-situation, and not really in a cliffhanger way, more like a "that's our time" kind of way. Now the last two weeks have been: recap/clip show, followed by... an in-universe kind of recap where they kind of reheated things we've already been told about this world in lieu of actually starting the next adventure. And the fanbase is (rightly) annoyed. It really could have helped them out, pacing wise, if these were all 45 min - an hour shows. I'm aware that's hard for the way these are shown on TV in Japan, but apparently this was directly bankrolled BY Crunchyroll, so they could have suggested it.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'll share one story of an unnamed relative of mine. Should you get to know them, they will not hesitate to tell you how much the union screwed them over and their life up. Over the years, in bits and pieces, this has resulted in them sharing the underlying facts with me.

    Age 50 married to a working spouse. Took some documented FMLA. Liked it and kept filing for more beyond their own doctor's assessment. Employer starts disciplinary paper trail. Union negotiates an exit for them. Full disability pension, meaning not the currently earned amount but the amount they would have drawn had they continued working in the same role until 65, plus full medical.

    They haven't worked an hour in 15 years. They still now will not stop vilifying the union because they make less money on a pension compared to their working salary and they are no longer getting overtime pay.

    1. What were they expecting?
    2. Do they understand how this would have ended for them at a non-unionized workplace?

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 14
    Is it possible that there are people who have been legitimately screwed over by a union in a way somehow worse than they would be in a direct relationship with the same employer? Yeah, sure, I suppose.

    Is “everyone I know has been screwed over by a union” obviously bullshit? Also yes.

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  • DiscoPirateBunnyDiscoPirateBunny CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    It isn't necessarily bullshit. Infinite universe, and all that.

    But "everyone I know got screwed over by a union" should mean "everyone I know would be better served by a better union" not "everyone I know would be better off getting screwed directly by their employer".

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Is it possible that there are people who have been legitimately screwed over by a union in a way somehow worse than they would be in a direct relationship with the same employer? Yeah, sure, I suppose.

    Is “everyone I know has been screwed over by a union” obviously bullshit? Also yes.

    Yeah I can think of a couple anecdotal bad experiences with unions. I have even seen it happen at one employer repeatedly. It was because one of the elected officials sucked and it took time to replace them. It has never been a systemic bullshit thing.

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  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    enc0re wrote: »
    I don’t like that we are taking “everyone I have ever known has been screwed by the union” at face value. The vast majority of the time, I cannot think of a single counterexample I have personally encountered, where someone squealed about being screwed by the union they either:

    1. Had no idea how far out of line they were and how much worse off the would have been without representation.
    -OR-
    2. Had positively insane ideas of what they were entitled to, often at the expense of other union members, and were Pikachu-face shocked when people with actual experience didn’t see it their way.

    I absolutely knew families whose primary breadwinner was more or less forced into striking when they really really didn't want to. Like it's a thing that happens.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Monwyn wrote: »
    enc0re wrote: »
    I don’t like that we are taking “everyone I have ever known has been screwed by the union” at face value. The vast majority of the time, I cannot think of a single counterexample I have personally encountered, where someone squealed about being screwed by the union they either:

    1. Had no idea how far out of line they were and how much worse off the would have been without representation.
    -OR-
    2. Had positively insane ideas of what they were entitled to, often at the expense of other union members, and were Pikachu-face shocked when people with actual experience didn’t see it their way.

    I absolutely knew families whose primary breadwinner was more or less forced into striking when they really really didn't want to. Like it's a thing that happens.

    I mean it's pretty messed up to WANT to go on strike.

    It's never really a good time to be out of work living on unemployment and strike wages for an indeterminable amount of time.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Monwyn wrote: »
    enc0re wrote: »
    I don’t like that we are taking “everyone I have ever known has been screwed by the union” at face value. The vast majority of the time, I cannot think of a single counterexample I have personally encountered, where someone squealed about being screwed by the union they either:

    1. Had no idea how far out of line they were and how much worse off the would have been without representation.
    -OR-
    2. Had positively insane ideas of what they were entitled to, often at the expense of other union members, and were Pikachu-face shocked when people with actual experience didn’t see it their way.

    I absolutely knew families whose primary breadwinner was more or less forced into striking when they really really didn't want to. Like it's a thing that happens.

    Fair enough. Solidarity is a cost of union membership.

    But to me being "screwed by the union" would imply something bad happening to me specifically; not a collective cost to achieve a collective benefit.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yeah, uhhh, I would love to be screwed like that, just sayin'

    I'd be sending my local an annual thank you card.

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 14
    Nobody wants to strike. It fuckin’ sucks! But without the ability to demonstrate solidarity, unions don’t work. The company shoulders the blame for a strike, not the union. A strike means you got screwed by your employer and your union is doing the last thing in their power to try to fix it.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    If someone is screwed over by a strike, they're screwed by the company being greedy.

    Like, I'm sure the other ways happen, but absolutely exceptions.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Nobody wants to strike. It fuckin’ sucks! But without the ability to demonstrate solidarity, unions don’t work. The company shoulders the blame for a strike, not the union. A strike means you got screwed by your employer and your union is doing the last thing in their power to try to fix it.

    It's also worth noting that a union doesn't 'just' strike. No leader sitting in Union HQ decides that the union is striking today, and damn what the workers want.

    Before a union goes on strike the membership votes on and authorizing the strike. There are usually a number of off-ramps and negotiations for the company and union before the strike actually begins and opportunities for the situation to be resolved before the workers go on strike. In a lot of cases there are rules beyond a simple majority of the membership authorizing the strike (e.g. a majority of each trade must authorize) or other guidelines.

    Like sometimes there will be people who are very much against going on strike, but the workers as a collective group are the ones deciding it's important enough and time to go on strike.

    And the strike is done knowing that being on strike sucks and you're probably - between strike pay and unemployment - going to be getting a fraction of your normal base pay for days, weeks, or months.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Its pretty low behavior to enjoy all the perks of union membership then not be willing to fight for the union when the time comes.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    if himmel was an isekai that'd be pretty dumb

    humans have been shown to just be, stupid fucking strong in the setting (stark), there's no need to throw other stuff in the mix

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Its pretty low behavior to enjoy all the perks of union membership then not be willing to fight for the union when the time comes.

    Not as low as enjoying the perks and not even paying a fair-share fee. I swear to gods, the "right to work" freeloaders are always the first to want to file a grievance.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Dartmouth basketball voted to unionize, which I'm sure Hedgie will be posting in the Fuck the NCAA thread as soon as he gets access to a computer.

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    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Pluto was great, IMO. I can see how some people might be put off by the pacing but they literally did a volume an episode so it's not like the pacing wasn't already established by the manga.

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  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Its pretty low behavior to enjoy all the perks of union membership then not be willing to fight for the union when the time comes.

    IIRC the issue at hand wasn't pay, it was how often you could fuck up your safety quals and stay on the line. The position of the people I knew was "fuck that, if they can't do the job safely I don't want to work with them anyway."

    Was also a little more complicated because the parent company had recently absorbed another company whose employees were gung-ho to strike, and most of the long term employees of the original company were not. Strike auth passed pretty narrowly.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Pluto was great, IMO. I can see how some people might be put off by the pacing but they literally did a volume an episode so it's not like the pacing wasn't already established by the manga.

    It does not take someone an hour to read a volume. Some people will read it faster, some people might want to read it a bit and then take a break. The pacing isn't the same at all.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Pluto was great, IMO. I can see how some people might be put off by the pacing but they literally did a volume an episode so it's not like the pacing wasn't already established by the manga.

    It does not take someone an hour to read a volume. Some people will read it faster, some people might want to read it a bit and then take a break. The pacing isn't the same at all.

    "Pacing" isn't how long it takes someone to consume a piece of media.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Metallic Rouge 9

    This has been like the fourth straight plot dump episode; literally people standing in a room monologuing about the setting, and it keeps getting more and more nonsensical. If they actually 'finish' this in the four episodes it has left, it'll be a miracle. I miss when it was fighting dogs.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Recent dumb romcom action; in today's chapter of Anjou-San, the sinking of a ship I never even thought was sailing:
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    and in Please Go Home Akutsu-San, the same thing that readers are saying (here and in far too many other similar stories):
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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Frieren manga.
    People talk a lot about Macht, but the early "mom" demon's failure to understand things was interesting because she was bumbling. When she attacked the village a second time it wasn't to eat anyone, she did it openly, advertising it as a trade, and assumed it would be fine. She made a connection between people acting threatening because she ate someone before, and getting them off her back by replacing what she ate, and even that she had to use a payment that didn't already belong to somebody else, but she still fucked up at piecing it all together.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Watamote the last few chapters has been funny, all this other class drama going on and meanwhile Tomoko and Asuka have been meandering around the festival, basically having a nice date except for Tomoko being clueless and not realizing that's totally what they're doing. It's funny too how their friends have just gotten used to it - the way the two of them acted used to get some raised eyebrows from their friends, but at this point they're just used to it and everyone ignores them blushing at each other. Also Shizuka casually dropping the possibility of Tomoko with "a boyfriend or a girlfriend," basically all of Tomoko's acquaintances with any social skills are kinda just assuming Tomoko's gay at this point. Tomoko's gonna be the last one to figure it out.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Dartmouth basketball voted to unionize, which I'm sure Hedgie will be posting in the Fuck the NCAA thread as soon as he gets access to a computer.

    This is one of the reasons why I have a smartphone, bum.

    And in other anti-labor motherfucker news, Alphabet continues with their whole "we'll just fire anyone who thinks of unionizing" gooseshit:
    Dozens of workers employed by a contracting company to do work for Google had their assignment abruptly ended last week, in a move they believe was related to their newly formed union.

    Google and the contracting company, Cognizant, told SFGATE that the terminations were due to preplanned contract expirations. But two laid-off workers told SFGATE they’d been taken by surprise, as their contracts had been routinely renewed for years.

    “We had absolutely no warning that this was going to happen,” Jack Benedict, one of the contracted workers, told SFGATE. “…They’re sticking to the story that it was a contract ending, but it really was a layoff. Specifically, it was retaliation.”

    The workers, who were tasked with maintenance of the YouTube Music platform, learned the contract was over Thursday, while Benedict was speaking in front of the Austin City Council, imploring officials to push Google into bargaining with the nascent union. In the Austin office, security guards hustled the team out after the layoffs were announced, and even threatened one straggler with police, according to laid-off worker Sam Regan.

    It’s the second time in a year that a group of Google contractors has been slammed with job cuts while labor organizing. In June 2023, workers who had been contracted through Accenture to improve Google Help pages launched a union campaign with help from the Alphabet Workers Union, which also led the Cognizant drive. Waves of layoffs followed in August, October and November. Some workers were made to train their own overseas replacements before their jobs were axed, three current and former Accenture contractors told SFGATE.

    Google has repeatedly argued that contracted workers shouldn’t be considered employees of the tech giant, even when they work exclusively on Google projects and Google controls their overtime, holiday calendars and project feedback. But the National Labor Relations Board, a federal agency that defends workers’ rights to unionize, has twice ruled that Google and Cognizant are “joint employers” of the contracted workforce, and thus must both bargain with the YouTube Music union. In January, the Board called Google’s ongoing refusal to do so “unlawful.”

    The tech industry truly does not believe it should be ruled over.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Keep organizing labor and eventually they'll have to interact with organized labor, if there's no one else to turn to.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Iruma chapter 339 was incredible. The impact of the page turn remains among the strongest in all of manga, and the raw emotion of the characters seems to leap off the pages...
    Which is timely considering the subject of the current arc.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I have a friend who is an ob-gyn in NYC. Focus on the ob. His shifts are usually 24 or more hours long, and he's covering the NICU and other mildly important things during that time. They have a nap room, but if things are busy he ain't napping and I honestly have no idea how he's managed to avoid putting a baby in the microwave or similar when he's all punchy at the end of the shift. A union would definitely help. Although to be absolutely fair, there's probably a bit of an upper bound on what they could do given the hot mess that is the American health care system.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Part of that is we need more healthcare workers, and there's an artificial shortage of them.

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  • BullheadBullhead Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Part of that is we need more healthcare workers, and there's an artificial shortage of them.

    Due to the cost of entry (the years of schooling/etc)? Just curious why you say it's artificial, not disagreeing.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Bullhead wrote: »
    Part of that is we need more healthcare workers, and there's an artificial shortage of them.

    Due to the cost of entry (the years of schooling/etc)? Just curious why you say it's artificial, not disagreeing.

    ADA reluctance to expand accreditation, the number of students admitted to medical schools, licensing restrictions, featherbedding that only allows MDs to do things that could just as easily be done by nurses or PAs.

    Also perverse incentives that drive MDs to specialties or administration because for a variety of reasons being a GP largely sucks compared to those other paths.

    Those sorts of things. And yes, to some degree cost and length of schooling that makes being a doctor an all or nothing fairly high risk proposition if you aren't able to cut it and pay your way through.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Bullhead wrote: »
    Part of that is we need more healthcare workers, and there's an artificial shortage of them.

    Due to the cost of entry (the years of schooling/etc)? Just curious why you say it's artificial, not disagreeing.

    I think I originally heard it mentioned by @AngelHedgie, but I believe the American Medical Association, essentially a guild of established medical professionals, is involved with the certification of new doctors, and limits the number of new ones each year, so as not to flood the market with extra doctors and bring down what they can charge. Because if profits came down, doctors couldn't earn enough to pay back their loans from medical school. Since old doctors had to suffer through high expenses to earn their degrees, they think it's normal up and coming ones should too.

    This might not be exactly right, and hopefully someone else can weigh in with more details, as I'm just going off of memory.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    This week on Frieren

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obrYt7GWv5o
    The battle's not over yet...

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Neat, so they are doing what I guessed they'd do
    And expanding on the other fights with the clones that were just one panel glimpses in the manga

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    time for budget busting

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