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Considering the form each of those exist in and the actual necessity of such, this is less an arguement against unions and more that significant reform is needed with regard to state violence (totally fucking true)
Age 50 married to a working spouse. Took some documented FMLA. Liked it and kept filing for more beyond their own doctor's assessment. Employer starts disciplinary paper trail. Union negotiates an exit for them. Full disability pension, meaning not the currently earned amount but the amount they would have drawn had they continued working in the same role until 65, plus full medical.
They haven't worked an hour in 15 years. They still now will not stop vilifying the union because they make less money on a pension compared to their working salary and they are no longer getting overtime pay.
1. What were they expecting?
2. Do they understand how this would have ended for them at a non-unionized workplace?
Is “everyone I know has been screwed over by a union” obviously bullshit? Also yes.
But "everyone I know got screwed over by a union" should mean "everyone I know would be better served by a better union" not "everyone I know would be better off getting screwed directly by their employer".
Yeah I can think of a couple anecdotal bad experiences with unions. I have even seen it happen at one employer repeatedly. It was because one of the elected officials sucked and it took time to replace them. It has never been a systemic bullshit thing.
I absolutely knew families whose primary breadwinner was more or less forced into striking when they really really didn't want to. Like it's a thing that happens.
I mean it's pretty messed up to WANT to go on strike.
It's never really a good time to be out of work living on unemployment and strike wages for an indeterminable amount of time.
Fair enough. Solidarity is a cost of union membership.
But to me being "screwed by the union" would imply something bad happening to me specifically; not a collective cost to achieve a collective benefit.
I'd be sending my local an annual thank you card.
Like, I'm sure the other ways happen, but absolutely exceptions.
It's also worth noting that a union doesn't 'just' strike. No leader sitting in Union HQ decides that the union is striking today, and damn what the workers want.
Before a union goes on strike the membership votes on and authorizing the strike. There are usually a number of off-ramps and negotiations for the company and union before the strike actually begins and opportunities for the situation to be resolved before the workers go on strike. In a lot of cases there are rules beyond a simple majority of the membership authorizing the strike (e.g. a majority of each trade must authorize) or other guidelines.
Like sometimes there will be people who are very much against going on strike, but the workers as a collective group are the ones deciding it's important enough and time to go on strike.
And the strike is done knowing that being on strike sucks and you're probably - between strike pay and unemployment - going to be getting a fraction of your normal base pay for days, weeks, or months.
humans have been shown to just be, stupid fucking strong in the setting (stark), there's no need to throw other stuff in the mix
Not as low as enjoying the perks and not even paying a fair-share fee. I swear to gods, the "right to work" freeloaders are always the first to want to file a grievance.
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IIRC the issue at hand wasn't pay, it was how often you could fuck up your safety quals and stay on the line. The position of the people I knew was "fuck that, if they can't do the job safely I don't want to work with them anyway."
Was also a little more complicated because the parent company had recently absorbed another company whose employees were gung-ho to strike, and most of the long term employees of the original company were not. Strike auth passed pretty narrowly.
It does not take someone an hour to read a volume. Some people will read it faster, some people might want to read it a bit and then take a break. The pacing isn't the same at all.
"Pacing" isn't how long it takes someone to consume a piece of media.
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This has been like the fourth straight plot dump episode; literally people standing in a room monologuing about the setting, and it keeps getting more and more nonsensical. If they actually 'finish' this in the four episodes it has left, it'll be a miracle. I miss when it was fighting dogs.
and in Please Go Home Akutsu-San, the same thing that readers are saying (here and in far too many other similar stories):
This is one of the reasons why I have a smartphone, bum.
And in other anti-labor motherfucker news, Alphabet continues with their whole "we'll just fire anyone who thinks of unionizing" gooseshit:
The tech industry truly does not believe it should be ruled over.
Due to the cost of entry (the years of schooling/etc)? Just curious why you say it's artificial, not disagreeing.
ADA reluctance to expand accreditation, the number of students admitted to medical schools, licensing restrictions, featherbedding that only allows MDs to do things that could just as easily be done by nurses or PAs.
Also perverse incentives that drive MDs to specialties or administration because for a variety of reasons being a GP largely sucks compared to those other paths.
Those sorts of things. And yes, to some degree cost and length of schooling that makes being a doctor an all or nothing fairly high risk proposition if you aren't able to cut it and pay your way through.
I think I originally heard it mentioned by @AngelHedgie, but I believe the American Medical Association, essentially a guild of established medical professionals, is involved with the certification of new doctors, and limits the number of new ones each year, so as not to flood the market with extra doctors and bring down what they can charge. Because if profits came down, doctors couldn't earn enough to pay back their loans from medical school. Since old doctors had to suffer through high expenses to earn their degrees, they think it's normal up and coming ones should too.
This might not be exactly right, and hopefully someone else can weigh in with more details, as I'm just going off of memory.