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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'm going to Tokyo next week, and even though the RX78 was decommissioned last week, it got quite the sendoff:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7cWoYef8CM

    At least there's the Unicorn, which I plan on seeing in Odaiba.
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Is there a word for the trope where a girl is late for a meeting, she grabs a piece of toast to eat while running, and she stumbles into a guy by accident after turning a corner?

    Usagi Standard Time.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    I will note that two of those three protags in the art were the first exposure that Gundam had to the west VIA toonami: Wing and G-Gundam.

    I was pretty sure we got 08th MS Team and the original Gundam series before G on Toonami, but I don't remember for sure.

    I also could only be thinking that because I actually watched Wing, 08th MS, and OG. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Is there a word for the trope where a girl is late for a meeting, she grabs a piece of toast to eat while running, and she stumbles into a guy by accident after turning a corner?

    That trope is named "Toast of Tardiness" on TVTropes. I personally wouldn't have called it that, though I don't have a better name at the ready.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I will note that two of those three protags in the art were the first exposure that Gundam had to the west VIA toonami: Wing and G-Gundam.

    I was pretty sure we got 08th MS Team and the original Gundam series before G on Toonami, but I don't remember for sure.

    I also could only be thinking that because I actually watched Wing, 08th MS, and OG. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    We got wing first, then G. Then Toonami started doing the midnight run which had 08th MS. I don't recall OG gundam there at all, tbh.

    Just went wiki diving, here's the Toonami premiere orders:

    March 2000- Gundam Wing on Toonami.
    November 2000- Endless Waltz Toonami premier.
    July 2001- Toonami showed both Original Gundam and 08th Team. The OG Gundam run skipped both Doan's Island and cut off before the ending because of 9-11.
    November 2001- 0080 shown on Toonami.
    February 2002- 0083 shown on Toonami.
    August 2002- G Gundam shown on Toonami.
    September 2003-SD Gundam
    April 2004- Gundam Seed

    There's more later, but that's the retro period in question.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    the ending for 0079 did get broadcast once at the end of 2001, and the whole show got moved to adult swim the following year but they cut it before they could go through the whole thing again

    getting the trilogy movies on dvd back then and watching and rewatching them is what really got me to fall in love with UC gundam, also while the dub was decent for the time there really is no beating the og cast

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oh weird seed was when I was still in high school. I just always assumed it was the next generations entry point

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Mamayuyu ends, in what honestly feels like a half to a full chapter short even for a “we’re giving you time to wrap it up” cancellation.

    Yeah, that was one of the more crashing-to-a-halt endings I've seen -- and as far as storylines go, it felt strange comparing
    the way the End storyline pretty much got resolved, but, oops, here's Grisha again to give us something to do for the last few pages?

    All the other dangling plots about characters just stop, I guess, that's sort of expected, but this felt more than usually clunky as far as "finishing the story" goes
    Lovely dragonball tribute in today's Akane-Banashi.
    And once again, if you're not reading this series, you really should be. It's an amazing melding of taking shonen tropes and applying them to a real world discipline, that's resulted in a really just excellently executed story. And unlike a lot of shonen manga, it's got incredibly well done characters across a very broad spectrum of character types - everyone feels quite well rounded, which it then mines to excellent effect.

    I'm still enjoying this on a chapter-by-chapter basis, but I keep getting lost about who's who and what's going on in bits of the story where the bigger-picture plot starts to come back and the various rakugo hierarchies become important, I'll admit.

    In other "this weeks chapters", Green Green Greens continues to be a very competent sports story with the usual sorts of things you'd expect, but it's very enjoyable along the way. Two On Ice is, somehow, still going, and now is going to be about TV ratings for sports shows? (and also the intricacies of how competitive skating is scored?) I really have no idea where it's going, I'll admit; I was expecting it to be ending any moment now but the story doesn't quite feel like that yet.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

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  • CururuCururu Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I want to see the alternate universe version of MHA where All For One actually left the story at the end of the Bakugo rescue arc, allowing the story to be an actual super hero high school story about a new generation of heroes growing into handling a new generation of threats.

    I still think the story peaked with school festival arc.

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    This was probably dropped in a ton of threads about today's chapter already but screw it.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Akane-banashi is crazy good this week, you guys
    I don't think I've ever seen a man so thoroughly, mercilessly, dunked on, slapped down, and demolished without anybody throwing a punch.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 14
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    Now with 100% more Akane Tendo.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.
    For what it's worth, it's almost definitely going to end with Deku having successfully saved Shigaraki during this exchange and the latter managing to sabotage AfO at a critical moment that lets Shiggy take back his own body and banish AfO forever.

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited April 14
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Moth 13 wrote: »

    Sheesh, Tanjiro got ripped.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Neveron wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.
    For what it's worth, it's almost definitely going to end with Deku having successfully saved Shigaraki during this exchange and the latter managing to sabotage AfO at a critical moment that lets Shiggy take back his own body and banish AfO forever.
    Knowing the predictable, obvious beats doesn't make it any less shitty an asspull, though. The move smacks of a lack of confidence in the arcs the author wrote, demanding a big plot twist for the sake of big plot twists.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    This week on Delicious in Dungeon: Do you know the difference between a cockatrice and a basilisk?

    https://youtu.be/hE_4W7xa5xM

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Dandadan 147:
    I know it's evergreen at this point, but seriously, how can it go so damn hard every week?!

    Big damn heroes doing some heroing in style!

    Cliffhanger!

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    May I present the asinine application of longtermism to antiunionism:

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    The stupid, it burns.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.
    But I mean he is the mastermind behind everything. The manga has not been shy about this, he has literally masterminded everything.

    Even his 11th Hour Boss nature of it isn’t 11th hour, because the entire deal for the past, what, two, three years worth of chapters has been “All For One is making Shigaraki his vessel, literally copying his consciousness over into him and effectively existing in two places at once as a weird hybrid of the two (until suppressed by Shigaraki’s pure rage and hate) and his original self in his original body”

    I can get folks not being happy with where the manga is at right now, but it’s not exactly a roadmap that’s been hidden.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I think the cause is more this arc has dragged on forever, which means by the time we get to these reveals that not just the foreshadowing but the outright earlier established elements from like a year and a half to two years ago get forgotten.

    EDIT: yeah, the arc started on Valentine’s Day of 2022, with the Final Act Saga itself kicking off in March 2021

    EDIT: Chapters 297 and 298, from January 2021:
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    January of last year, ch 379, where Shigaraki used his hate and anger as the fuel to drive AFO’s consciousness into the backseat when he’s been basically spending the earlier part of that arc.

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    And now the entire basis of that hate and rage has been undermined, which mean the thing keeping AFO in check is now broken, letting him resume control until he’s purged from Shigaraki

    EDIT: pages out of order need to fix once I’m not on phone

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I could have told you that was gonna happen and the only mha I've read was the first two arcs and the current one

    I had to try real hard t mot make a gotta hand it to ya joke

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
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    I did not think of the baby murder tho and that baby totally deserved to get murdered

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  • arthurinscalesarthurinscales Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I did not think of the baby murder tho and that baby totally deserved to get murdered

    This is mha right

    Was the baby grape head guy

    Please tell me he dies

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.
    But I mean he is the mastermind behind everything. The manga has not been shy about this, he has literally masterminded everything.

    Even his 11th Hour Boss nature of it isn’t 11th hour, because the entire deal for the past, what, two, three years worth of chapters has been “All For One is making Shigaraki his vessel, literally copying his consciousness over into him and effectively existing in two places at once as a weird hybrid of the two (until suppressed by Shigaraki’s pure rage and hate) and his original self in his original body”

    I can get folks not being happy with where the manga is at right now, but it’s not exactly a roadmap that’s been hidden.
    Two points:

    One, we actually had a pretty good roadmap! We had AfO get hoist on his own petard, as his shortcomings and weaknesses finally caused his plans to fail, which is a good way to conclude his arc - the fact that he was incapable of treating people with respect becoming the core of his downfall. And then we have the fight between Midorya and Shigaraki, where the win condition for the former isn't just stopping the latter, but saving him. These are both good arcs, with some really cool character resolutions!

    And they threw it away for a shitty plot twist that is as trite as it is telegraphed.

    Two, the whole "I manipulated everything!" spin actually weakens chessmaster/magnificent bastard/charismaniac type characters by basically basically handing them the "I WIN" button to get out of any jam. What makes good chessmasters - what makes them compelling - is when they're able to roll with the punches and make the unexpected work for them. With this, AfO just becomes another author's pet antagonist.

    Just because we knew the asspull was coming doesn't make it any less an asspull.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    asofyeun wrote: »
    I did not think of the baby murder tho and that baby totally deserved to get murdered

    This is mha right

    Was the baby grape head guy

    Please tell me he dies

    No
    They made AFO’s original self spam his rejuvenate quirk so hard he turned into a baby and then, I think, a fetus, then killed him.

    So now AFO exists as the consciousness copy in his Quirk which is currently in Shigaraki

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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    Yeah, this is very much seeds that were planted are now being sown. I am flabbergasted by the idea that this is somehow an asspull.

    It's an asspull because it replaces some actually good plot arcs with a trite, less interesting one, all for the sake of...what, actually? Like, this is the sort of gooseshit Red called out in her video on plot twists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuwh0GXwbQ

    And yes, the author may have planted these plot seeds prior - but part of being an author is knowing which plot seeds to harvest...and which to cull.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Not reading the spoilers because I'm not to that part of the story yet, but a properly foreshadowed twist or plot progression isn't an asspull because you don't like it.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I'm not sure how I feel about the heart MHA manga developments.
    Not a huge fan of "it was me all along, I orchestrated everything!" But i do like the idea of All For One taking his quirk to replace it with Decay.

    Also Midora is in rough shape

    Im good with it given the wat it’s the perfect dark mirror of
    One For All: a series of heroes each find a worthy successor to pass everything down to to carry on a legacy.

    AfO instead hangs onto his own original existence for like, what, two hundred years, then when he can’t do that any more sets out to deliberately create a vessel to pour himself into, literally stripping away everything that was theirs (the love of their family, their inborn traits) and replacing them with nothing but misery (a quirk that can only destroy, stripped of its ability to restore, the constant abuse and neglect) to break them enough that they’ll won’t stand up any longer when it comes time to take over the body.

    AfO is a rotten piece of shit.
    Nah, it's a shitty asspull of a twist for the reasons Red laid out in her video about the Magnificent Bastard trope - it undercuts both AfO and the other characters arcs to let him be the eleventh hour boss and to have him be the mastermind behind everything. Because, frankly, it was a lot better that AfO's scheming in the end finally was his undoing as all his plans unraveled because he wasn't the chessmaster he thought he was, and making the final fight about Midorya taking the hard road to save Shigaraki was the proper conclusion to his arc.

    This is just so fucking unsatisfying.
    But I mean he is the mastermind behind everything. The manga has not been shy about this, he has literally masterminded everything.

    Even his 11th Hour Boss nature of it isn’t 11th hour, because the entire deal for the past, what, two, three years worth of chapters has been “All For One is making Shigaraki his vessel, literally copying his consciousness over into him and effectively existing in two places at once as a weird hybrid of the two (until suppressed by Shigaraki’s pure rage and hate) and his original self in his original body”

    I can get folks not being happy with where the manga is at right now, but it’s not exactly a roadmap that’s been hidden.
    Two points:

    One, we actually had a pretty good roadmap! We had AfO get hoist on his own petard, as his shortcomings and weaknesses finally caused his plans to fail, which is a good way to conclude his arc - the fact that he was incapable of treating people with respect becoming the core of his downfall. And then we have the fight between Midorya and Shigaraki, where the win condition for the former isn't just stopping the latter, but saving him. These are both good arcs, with some really cool character resolutions!

    And they threw it away for a shitty plot twist that is as trite as it is telegraphed.

    Two, the whole "I manipulated everything!" spin actually weakens chessmaster/magnificent bastard/charismaniac type characters by basically basically handing them the "I WIN" button to get out of any jam. What makes good chessmasters - what makes them compelling - is when they're able to roll with the punches and make the unexpected work for them. With this, AfO just becomes another author's pet antagonist.

    Just because we knew the asspull was coming doesn't make it any less an asspull.
    You do get that he's pontificating, right? The reveal here is that he manipulated Shigaraki from even earlier than was shown (by removing the part of the quirk that could help him and leave him a quirk that could only cause tragedy). Him saying "YOU HAVE NO FREE WILL EVERYTHING IS AS I DESIGNED" is megalomania. Shigaraki has made plenty of decisions on his own, as evident by the fact that his rage made AfO lose control of Shigaraki's body as they fought for control in the psyche.

    There is a difference between a villain making a claim and a villain speaking for the author. The villain here is just going into full megalomania mode and trying to break Shigaraki down to nothing so he can take complete control.
    I didn't say he was speaking for the author - I said that he's the author's pet antagonist, which is a flaw where the author winds up becoming overly fond of their antagonist and thus starts giving them plot armor and justifications (see also: the current gooseshit in JJK with Sukuna.) Again, we actually had a really good, interesting downfall arc for AfO - his need for control and inability to trust wind up being the reasons his plans collapse. Having him suddenly come back to life after Shigaraki had gotten rid of him is a much less interesting and much more overused arc.

    Again, it doesn't matter that the author set this up (because the author isn't required to use every plot seed they set up - in fact, figuring out which ones to push forward is part of the art.) This is the whole issue here - what's happened is that we got two interesting arcs replaced by one much less interesting one, and that's the infuriating part.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I always find the “can’t fire under-performers” complaint funny.

    I have never experienced any organization I’ve worked for firing the worst employees. I’ve experienced arbitrary firings mostly based on clawing back pay and retention of those willing to suffer the most abuse. Performance never really entered into it.

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