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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yes, I really wasn't grabbed by delicious in dungeon at all when I started watching it and initially dropped it after 3(?) epsodes. But people who's tastes I aligned with said it was good so I gave it a couple more episodes and I got into the groove.

    I don't think it is an amazing show or anything but it is a nice relaxing watch.

    Tell me you haven't reached Episode 11 without telling me that you haven't reached Episode 11. Because I find it hard to call it "relaxing" once the show decides "Welp, that was a fun prologue, let's get the story actually started."

    If the monster of the week/meal of the week format didn't grab you, I can definitely see someone not getting to the plot proper.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Also, asking someone to go to Episode 11 is kind of a tall order. If a show doesn't get me by 4, that's the tried and true cutoff point.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    No one is obligated to give it (or Frieren) a shot if they're bored. But if you're curious why people continually talk it up... that's because it gets increasingly better over time. Those slow(er) episodes weren't wasted time, they were character and world building. Those of us who love it do so for a reason, so if you have the time, consider continuing... but it also might truly be not for you. Don't know what kinds of things you like to watch.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Even Frieren, while very good for the first few episodes, didn't wow people until episode 10.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Freiren wowed me right away, I can't speak to delicious in dungeon anime being a slow starter because I had already read the manga and started reading after there was a big backlog to catch up on well into the latter half of the series.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    DiD is spending a ton of time to set up a bunch of stuff that then fires off non stop once the fuse is lit. It's a very intentional manga

    Also food/cooking and the costs of needing to stay alive are very direct themes. All of those cooking sequences pay off very dramatically later on

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    It took me two tries to get into the Delicious in Dungeon manga, but it was an excellent story once I did get into it.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Frieren hit me right away but I could see in the first two episodes "oh, yeah, they're talking a lot about the things in life we should treasure that we might not notice. I'm in my 40s, this is a real feel, fuck man..." so I got straight into it. DiD is different but, again, I got into it quick because the food stuff grabbed me.

    I'm a bit disappointed in how much more bloody it's gotten though, my daughter can't really enjoy it anymore after loving the first ten or so episodes. Such is life in the anime world, maybe another time.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I personally don't care for the cooking for its own sake, but I still LOVE DinD because it's never just cooking. It's about practical field knowledge and life experiences and character personality revealed through what they're eating and why. The down to Earth choice to have the party fail in the opening because they were too hungry leads gracefully into practical considerations being the key to how the series progresses. There's drama based on equipment being of too low quality, or lacking money to pay someone to do something, or people who should be providing a service that have turned it into a deadly scam, etc etc. Unlike the recent (awful) trends to treat every fantasy story like it's a video game (I'll use my Power Stab Level 2 skill to stab really hard!), DinD takes the author's experiences playing fantasy themed games and turns those into a real story. What is it like, psychologically, to go into a dark hole with 3 people who you work with who aren't necessarily your friends? What kind of people excel at this, and what causes them to screw up and fail?

    Anyway, it's amazing.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yeah, Frieren grabbed me from the jump, because I love slow burn shows(heck, Fate/Zero is one of my favorites), but then the fireworks factory goes off and it gets even better.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I personally don't care for the cooking for its own sake, but I still LOVE DinD because it's never just cooking. It's about practical field knowledge and life experiences and character personality revealed through what they're eating and why. The down to Earth choice to have the party fail in the opening because they were too hungry leads gracefully into practical considerations being the key to how the series progresses. There's drama based on equipment being of too low quality, or lacking money to pay someone to do something, or people who should be providing a service that have turned it into a deadly scam, etc etc. Unlike the recent (awful) trends to treat every fantasy story like it's a video game (I'll use my Power Stab Level 2 skill to stab really hard!), DinD takes the author's experiences playing fantasy themed games and turns those into a real story. What is it like, psychologically, to go into a dark hole with 3 people who you work with who aren't necessarily your friends? What kind of people excel at this, and what causes them to screw up and fail?

    Anyway, it's amazing.

    One of the great things is you get to see why people follow laois for all that he's a weird, almost certainly autistic, too trusting, monster obsessed chap - he's incredibly skilled at both Dungeoneering, and a fairly talented if screwball leader. All his weird hyper focused etc add up to someone who cuts a bloody swathe through monsters that routinely trash seasoned adventurers

    It's very intentionally contrasted with Kabru's party who on the surface look a lot more competent (and then get owned time and again) , it even the Floke's party etc.

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    He's how other people would perceive a player character in Dungeons and Dragons.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oh yeah, since PaperLuigi44 finished Jojo Part5:

    (Spoilers for up to the end of Part 5 for anyone who hasn't watched/read those)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnTfv2abjew

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    I watched the first 2 episodes of delicious in dungeon and I just don't get it. It just wasn't interesting to me. But I think my tastes are not exactly aligned with popular stuff. I also watched JJK season 1 and can't be bothered to watch the interseason movie to keep going. Sure the art was good but it was also just Naruto. I've seen a few episodes of frieren, and it's pretty good but maybe a little slow for me.

    I did watch solo leveling but I think that was more out of curiosity as to why it was the #1 most popular title. And at like 10 episodes didnt take much time.

    Finding good shows is such a challenge for me.

    I feel the same in some ways. Every episode spends an unusual amount of time cooking, obsessing on, and eating monsters. Then there’s times of serious story elements, which come later. It’s fun, but very strange.

    How in the world does a show called delicious in dungeon, that does ghibli level detailed animation of food preparation, have an unusual amount of time being about food??

    That’s…the show! It’s about food! The preparation and eating of. It would be weirder if it was not much at all about food.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I actually came across a Salon article the other day about Delicious in Dungeon. The author seems to have only watched the anime so far, but they really get the themes.

    https://www.salon.com/2024/04/28/ethics-delicious-in-dungeon/
    We think very little about where our food comes from. We often don’t want to think of the barbarism of the act, which is why slaughterhouses and factory farms are often located out in the middle of nowhere. Out of sight, out of mind. We may be vaguely aware of modern animal husbandry practices, some of us may have even read "Omnivore's Dilemma" author Michael Pollan’s seminal 2002 essay "Power Steer," but what do we really know about the animals that end up on our plate? The truth is we don’t want to know. Our heroes in "Delicious in Dungeon" have no such luxury of distance to shield themselves as the immediacy of the next meal requires them to be involved in the entirety of the food process. By centering food in this way, the series opens up discourse on how, in fact, our lives revolve around food, and challenges some of our thinking on food consumption.

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    That’s super cool, it’s definitely one of the reasons I showed my son the show.

    In an unrelated note, I lost it at marcielle’s line reading in the latest episode
    When the chimera rends off her own tunic, and for a moment you think she’s about to get her boobs out and marcielle’s tone completely shifts and she just goes whoOAH in the tone of when your friend has just gotten a bit to drunk at a party and is suddenly dancing naked on a table. Very very funny tone shift in between abject body horror

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 14
    Yeah as some other folks said, Frieren grabbed me instantly, but I am also a real lover of slower paced anime that know what they're doing with that pacing, and Frieren is very much one of those series. So I saw what it was doing and it was exactly my jam.

    But a lotta folks aren't as into that as I am, stuck around for the animation and setting, and then got really wowed by some of the stuff like 8-10 episodes in when it flexes a bit

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    cursedking wrote: »
    That’s super cool, it’s definitely one of the reasons I showed my son the show.

    In an unrelated note, I lost it at marcielle’s line reading in the latest episode
    When the chimera rends off her own tunic, and for a moment you think she’s about to get her boobs out and marcielle’s tone completely shifts and she just goes whoOAH in the tone of when your friend has just gotten a bit to drunk at a party and is suddenly dancing naked on a table. Very very funny tone shift in between abject body horror

    that was excellent as a cutaway panel gag in the manga too

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I personally don't care for the cooking for its own sake, but I still LOVE DinD because it's never just cooking. It's about practical field knowledge and life experiences and character personality revealed through what they're eating and why. The down to Earth choice to have the party fail in the opening because they were too hungry leads gracefully into practical considerations being the key to how the series progresses. There's drama based on equipment being of too low quality, or lacking money to pay someone to do something, or people who should be providing a service that have turned it into a deadly scam, etc etc. Unlike the recent (awful) trends to treat every fantasy story like it's a video game (I'll use my Power Stab Level 2 skill to stab really hard!), DinD takes the author's experiences playing fantasy themed games and turns those into a real story. What is it like, psychologically, to go into a dark hole with 3 people who you work with who aren't necessarily your friends? What kind of people excel at this, and what causes them to screw up and fail?

    Anyway, it's amazing.

    One of the great things is you get to see why people follow laois for all that he's a weird, almost certainly autistic, too trusting, monster obsessed chap - he's incredibly skilled at both Dungeoneering, and a fairly talented if screwball leader. All his weird hyper focused etc add up to someone who cuts a bloody swathe through monsters that routinely trash seasoned adventurers

    It's very intentionally contrasted with Kabru's party who on the surface look a lot more competent (and then get owned time and again) , it even the Floke's party etc.

    Kabru's specced for PvP and then gets wiped in raids

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    it's hard for me to understand Kabru's whole...deal. Like the affect of his voice actor in the english dub is super...inauthentic? Like in a very choice based way. It always sounds like he's completely lying or "acting" whenever he talks to someone. It's a really weird choice for the character that feels very considered, but even at this point I still don't really understand what his whole deal is?

    The most direct comparison I can make is he sounds like Travis McElroy, who has legitimate difficulties not sounding like he's being sarcastic. Like he'll say "oh no are you ok" and the reaction it engenders is oh you're being an asshole right now, even though he is not actually being sarcastic.

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    cursedking wrote: »
    it's hard for me to understand Kabru's whole...deal. Like the affect of his voice actor in the english dub is super...inauthentic? Like in a very choice based way. It always sounds like he's completely lying or "acting" whenever he talks to someone. It's a really weird choice for the character that feels very considered, but even at this point I still don't really understand what his whole deal is?

    The most direct comparison I can make is he sounds like Travis McElroy, who has legitimate difficulties not sounding like he's being sarcastic. Like he'll say "oh no are you ok" and the reaction it engenders is oh you're being an asshole right now, even though he is not actually being sarcastic.

    I just re-read some of the manga bits where he's introduced a few days back, and that sounds like they've absolutely nailed his characterization for those; I should really start watching the anime.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I always get the sense he is trying to sound like a normal person while running all the calculations on the motivations, fears, and fighting styles of everyone in the room in case he has to kill them all

    Yeah this is exactly who he is. Kabru is a person who I think is meant to be read as someone who sees social relationships as something purely to be gamed for advantage, and doesn't feel bad or hesitate about killing other people, but due to events in his past that will be discussed later he has chosen to focus his talents at manipulation and stabbing towards what he thinks is the greater good.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Apothecary Diaries was such a good show I picked up the manga where it left off. I'm now out of manga to read, but still want more.

    Good news the light novel translation is up to volume 11. The anime only covered up to 2 and it looks like the manga is around 3 or 4.

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  • Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yes, I really wasn't grabbed by delicious in dungeon at all when I started watching it and initially dropped it after 3(?) epsodes. But people who's tastes I aligned with said it was good so I gave it a couple more episodes and I got into the groove.

    I don't think it is an amazing show or anything but it is a nice relaxing watch.

    Tell me you haven't reached Episode 11 without telling me that you haven't reached Episode 11. Because I find it hard to call it "relaxing" once the show decides "Welp, that was a fun prologue, let's get the story actually started."

    I am up to date with the episodes, it remains relaxing. Like, this is the most cheerful carefree grim shit imaginable.

    Sure we've got some body horror, some deep interpersonal conflict and an understanding of nation level dark dealings but in the most twee way imaginable.

    I'm loving it.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    https://youtu.be/pXAek70Aou8?si=n2c4buF0SyKs8aEr

    hopefully will be running somewhere in English since they’re subbing it here on their international YT Channel


    Also, today’s Kozame!
    https://youtu.be/QIUNVZnkpWs?feature=shared

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    The parts where there's fights and action in freiren are decent and look great animated, but not what I'm showing up for at all

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  • arthurinscalesarthurinscales Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lanz wrote: »

    is this how palicos started

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    The parts where there's fights and action in freiren are decent and look great animated, but not what I'm showing up for at all

    The Dance is still my favorite scene in the anime series.
    The two wind up looking like a pair of high school kids at a dance just happily losing themselves in the music and each other.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I always get the sense he is trying to sound like a normal person while running all the calculations on the motivations, fears, and fighting styles of everyone in the room in case he has to kill them all

    Yeah this is exactly who he is. Kabru is a person who I think is meant to be read as someone who sees social relationships as something purely to be gamed for advantage, and doesn't feel bad or hesitate about killing other people, but due to events in his past that will be discussed later he has chosen to focus his talents at manipulation and stabbing towards what he thinks is the greater good.
    And the point is to show that when the sort of people who trained him - the Canaries, the elven special forces - show up on the island, it's an "oh fuck" moment.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    cursedking wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    I watched the first 2 episodes of delicious in dungeon and I just don't get it. It just wasn't interesting to me. But I think my tastes are not exactly aligned with popular stuff. I also watched JJK season 1 and can't be bothered to watch the interseason movie to keep going. Sure the art was good but it was also just Naruto. I've seen a few episodes of frieren, and it's pretty good but maybe a little slow for me.

    I did watch solo leveling but I think that was more out of curiosity as to why it was the #1 most popular title. And at like 10 episodes didnt take much time.

    Finding good shows is such a challenge for me.

    I feel the same in some ways. Every episode spends an unusual amount of time cooking, obsessing on, and eating monsters. Then there’s times of serious story elements, which come later. It’s fun, but very strange.

    How in the world does a show called delicious in dungeon, that does ghibli level detailed animation of food preparation, have an unusual amount of time being about food??

    That’s…the show! It’s about food! The preparation and eating of. It would be weirder if it was not much at all about food.

    I had no idea it was a anime/manga about cooking. I thought it was mainly D&D with some food stuff thrown in for laughs. I just thought there was a lot of time in the first few episodes focusing on every aspect of cooking, no idea it was the core principle of the anime/manga.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    it is both of those things

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kana wrote: »
    I personally don't care for the cooking for its own sake, but I still LOVE DinD because it's never just cooking. It's about practical field knowledge and life experiences and character personality revealed through what they're eating and why. The down to Earth choice to have the party fail in the opening because they were too hungry leads gracefully into practical considerations being the key to how the series progresses. There's drama based on equipment being of too low quality, or lacking money to pay someone to do something, or people who should be providing a service that have turned it into a deadly scam, etc etc. Unlike the recent (awful) trends to treat every fantasy story like it's a video game (I'll use my Power Stab Level 2 skill to stab really hard!), DinD takes the author's experiences playing fantasy themed games and turns those into a real story. What is it like, psychologically, to go into a dark hole with 3 people who you work with who aren't necessarily your friends? What kind of people excel at this, and what causes them to screw up and fail?

    Anyway, it's amazing.

    One of the great things is you get to see why people follow laois for all that he's a weird, almost certainly autistic, too trusting, monster obsessed chap - he's incredibly skilled at both Dungeoneering, and a fairly talented if screwball leader. All his weird hyper focused etc add up to someone who cuts a bloody swathe through monsters that routinely trash seasoned adventurers

    It's very intentionally contrasted with Kabru's party who on the surface look a lot more competent (and then get owned time and again) , it even the Floke's party etc.

    Kabru's specced for PvP and then gets wiped in raids

    A 110% accurate analogy (in point of fact it's shown later he was trained, extensively, in a fighting style that's asll about going for kill points... mostly on humanoids. Whoops.)
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I always get the sense he is trying to sound like a normal person while running all the calculations on the motivations, fears, and fighting styles of everyone in the room in case he has to kill them all

    Yeah this is exactly who he is. Kabru is a person who I think is meant to be read as someone who sees social relationships as something purely to be gamed for advantage, and doesn't feel bad or hesitate about killing other people, but due to events in his past that will be discussed later he has chosen to focus his talents at manipulation and stabbing towards what he thinks is the greater good.


    He's genuinely well meaning is the fun bit, like he wants to do right by everyone, and he's got a much healthier perspective than most folk on the risks of dungeons, even if he actually sucks at clearing them himself, he knows exactly why they're dangerous.
    There's a reason he throws his lot in behind Laois and actively sabotages the elves later, because he knows the elf approach is about to fuck it all up while Laois and co have an actual shot at stopping the imminent disaster. And this pays off, big time.

    Such a great comic.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oh hey two chapters for Black Clover just hit
    And that’s how Mereoleona became Getter Rays

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  • WearingGlassesWearingGlasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    The Red Cat Ramen manga is a fun chill read! Nice of them to get an anime adaptation.

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  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Latest Delicious in Dungeon episode:
    If you're curious about whose memory created each version of the doppelgangers, here's an explanation:
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  • arthurinscalesarthurinscales Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    dungeon meshi latest episode
    this was a great episode to have after the seriousness and bloodiness of that last one

    also regarding the new OP, i get why ppl might not like it as much as the first one but to me, it fits the overall feel of dungeon meshi better - it reminds me a lot of the Spy X Family OPs

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