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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Echo wrote: »
    Re: Transformers 4, this is way more entertaining to watch than the actual movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c97NAlvu3n0
    I'll see your Cinema Sins and raise you an Auralnauts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmRMnVULs8&ab_channel=Auralnauts

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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Quid wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Re: Transformers 4, this is way more entertaining to watch than the actual movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c97NAlvu3n0

    I love their stuff for every bad movie.

    When they do decent to good movies it's alright and occasionally funny. But they're at their best when getting genuinely angry at having to watch something.

    I don't know. It's fun watching them be pedantic while obviously really enjoying a film.

    Oh its definitely fun.

    But their videos about movies on the level of Lucy are the best.

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  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    But I mean, there are rural parts of every state full of people who like to hunt and shoot targets. If that's the only thing you need to justify no gun control (Bernie said there was none in Vermont and didn't sound interested in adding any, at least in Vermont) then we're never going to get it anywhere.

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  • AmberAmber Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    cB557 wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Re: Transformers 4, this is way more entertaining to watch than the actual movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c97NAlvu3n0
    I'll see your Cinema Sins and raise you an Auralnauts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmRMnVULs8&ab_channel=Auralnauts

    Those John Cena walkouts.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited April 21
  • AbdyAbdy Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    We have gun control of the kind that you can get a gun if you're going to use it to hunt or shoot targets and you're not a nutjob

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    But I mean, there are rural parts of every state full of people who like to hunt and shoot targets. If that's the only thing you need to justify no gun control (Bernie said there was none in Vermont and didn't sound interested in adding any, at least in Vermont) then we're never going to get it anywhere.

    I dislike how for his example he uses the three biggest/most well known cities in America. Like, at least compare -states- Bernie. Don't just name drop Chicago and go "see, see! We're not like -Chicago-"

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    I think he was talking about differences in culture towards guns between the rural and urban areas. Which are very different.

    Also he goes on and lists what he does want to do for gun control. I mean this man has an average rating from the NRA of an F or a D.

    And guess what? The stuff he wants to do are very much the same things you hear from most Dems including Obama. Tighten restrictions on guns. Increase the background checks. Get rid of whatever is left of the gun show loop hole. Increase care for mental illness while finding ways to restrict folks with mental illness from getting guns. Even mentioned the assault weapon ban which I won't get into the word stuff.

    So guess what? He isn't that different from most folks unless you are looking for absolute and total banning of firearms which will not happen no matter who you vote for.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    "guns for rural people, but not for urban self defense" is basically ruled out by Heller, is it not

    it's a compromise position that is also very 1990s

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Chicago has a lot of gun control

    but other parts of Illinois and Indiana doesn't, I guess

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    it's a zero sum policy position between urban and rural because of internal movement of guns, obviously

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    It amazes me how we all get sucked into the poorly written article that cuts out a lot of what he actually says to make a certain point instead of the actual 10 minute interview where this is about 1 minute and the other 9 are him talking about everything from work programs to race to economic inequality and institutional racism that enforces it.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    It amazes me how we all get sucked into the poorly written article that cuts out a lot of what he actually says to make a certain point instead of the actual 10 minute interview where this is about 1 minute and the other 9 are him talking about everything from work programs to race to economic inequality and institutional racism that enforces it.

    yeah but then we can't bleed from our eyes because he violated our favorite shibboleth

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    no transcript no read

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    It amazes me how we all get sucked

    Mazzyx refuses to clarify controversial oral intercourse stance

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    why listen to what he actually says when I can instead read something that poorly sums up his stances

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    ronya wrote: »
    no transcript no read

    Top of it is a play button.

    They don't the transcript up yet I don't think because the interview played for the first time no more than an hour ago. Not sure they will put it up but I know it is difficult to listen to things. Hard in this digital age. :P

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  • BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    News just doesn't read like news if there isn't a hefty dose of reporting bias involved.

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    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    I think he was talking about differences in culture towards guns between the rural and urban areas. Which are very different.

    Also he goes on and lists what he does want to do for gun control. I mean this man has an average rating from the NRA of an F or a D.

    And guess what? The stuff he wants to do are very much the same things you hear from most Dems including Obama. Tighten restrictions on guns. Increase the background checks. Get rid of whatever is left of the gun show loop hole. Increase care for mental illness while finding ways to restrict folks with mental illness from getting guns. Even mentioned the assault weapon ban which I won't get into the word stuff.

    So guess what? He isn't that different from most folks unless you are looking for absolute and total banning of firearms which will not happen no matter who you vote for.

    I don't -want- a total banning of firearms. I want heavy goddamned restrictions on them. So, cool. Bernie probably wants a lot of the same stuff I want regarding that.

    Talking about Vermont, a state which is almost 100% white and that has a population less 10,000 in the state capital, and acting like it's representative of even a large swathe of -hunters- in the US is ridiculous.

    Defend your constituents Bernie but don't act like they're a representative of any significant portion of the US population. Because they're not. Especially in comparison to multi-ethnic, multi-cultural cities like LA, NYC, or Chicago.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    no transcript no read

    Top of it is a play button.

    They don't the transcript up yet I don't think because the interview played for the first time no more than an hour ago. Not sure they will put it up but I know it is difficult to listen to things. Hard in this digital age. :P

    I saw the play button, I just refused to touch it

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    And people wonder why I twitch at stuff like twitter being used for political discourse.

    Full sentences, paragraphs and speeches are important to the context of a story and a stance.

    A single sentence or a few small lines is playing tabloid gotcha bullshit.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    I twitch at speeches all the time because a policy stance can switch in the space of three sentences, and with the right intonation it might not even be noticed

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    And people wonder why I twitch

    *Nods thoughtfully*

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  • AbdyAbdy Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    guns have legitimate uses, so you can have one if you're using it for one of those

    those uses being hunting, sports shooting and collecting. For those you need a hunting license, active membership in a gun club, and membership in the norwegian historical weapon society, respectively.

    And you need to be approved by the police. The rules for what kind of and how many guns you can own depend on why.


    Legally this is all based on the weapon law §7 that says "need or other reasonable cause"

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    And people wonder why I twitch at stuff like twitter being used for political discourse.

    Full sentences, paragraphs and speeches are important to the context of a story and a stance.

    A single sentence or a few small lines is playing tabloid gotcha bullshit.

    who needs context when i can have a 6 second clip of obama saying the n-word?

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    Trace wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    I think he was talking about differences in culture towards guns between the rural and urban areas. Which are very different.

    Also he goes on and lists what he does want to do for gun control. I mean this man has an average rating from the NRA of an F or a D.

    And guess what? The stuff he wants to do are very much the same things you hear from most Dems including Obama. Tighten restrictions on guns. Increase the background checks. Get rid of whatever is left of the gun show loop hole. Increase care for mental illness while finding ways to restrict folks with mental illness from getting guns. Even mentioned the assault weapon ban which I won't get into the word stuff.

    So guess what? He isn't that different from most folks unless you are looking for absolute and total banning of firearms which will not happen no matter who you vote for.

    I don't -want- a total banning of firearms. I want heavy goddamned restrictions on them. So, cool. Bernie probably wants a lot of the same stuff I want regarding that.

    Talking about Vermont, a state which is almost 100% white and that has a population less 10,000 in the state capital, and acting like it's representative of even a large swathe of -hunters- in the US is ridiculous.

    Defend your constituents Bernie but don't act like they're a representative of any significant portion of the US population. Because they're not. Especially in comparison to multi-ethnic, multi-cultural cities like LA, NYC, or Chicago.

    It's a good job that's not what Sanders is doing then.

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  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    It amazes me how we all get sucked into the poorly written article that cuts out a lot of what he actually says to make a certain point instead of the actual 10 minute interview where this is about 1 minute and the other 9 are him talking about everything from work programs to race to economic inequality and institutional racism that enforces it.

    Sorry, yes, I agree, that was just the part I heard as I was pulling into the parking lot. To address your post about his position, what I want to know is if he supports those things on a national level, or just for places that aren't Vermont.

    Regardless of the answer to that, you're right - he's about the same as everybody else on gun control, which isn't enough for me, but doesn't even remotely disqualify my support. I'm actually planning to vote for Bernie in the primary, and look forward to hearing him talk on his other issues when I get a chance to listen to the rest of the interview because I love his stances on most things. Sorry for contributing to a dismissive sounding derail.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    ronya wrote: »
    I twitch at speeches all the time because a policy stance can switch in the space of three sentences, and with the right intonation it might not even be noticed

    Key of being informed is learning the ability to catch that.

    Informed citizens pay attention. Call when bullshit is there. Problem is we are so dependent on the 30 second sound bite to explain it that if the news industry decides it isn't worth it then most people won't notice anyway.

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  • AbdyAbdy Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    A firefighter saved the life of a pensioner by going "Not to be rude, but do you usually slur?"

    Because no he didn't and it was a stroke

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    ronya wrote: »
    I twitch at speeches all the time because a policy stance can switch in the space of three sentences, and with the right intonation it might not even be noticed

    drdoom.jpg

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    edited April 21
    I think trying to do anything with gun laws right now is a huge mistake, because no matter how much the populace might be behind it, the composition of the legislative bodies will dance to the melody of the NRA scorecard in numbers enough to guarantee filibuster. And its not even just republicans - tons of democrats with large rural bases will vote that way also.

    If you want meaningful gun reform in this country, the very best thing you could do is stop talking about gun control for a decade or two and do everything in your power to turn out the african american, latino and youth vote such that the composition of Washington completely changes.

    THEN maybe we can tackle it. But as it stands it is pissing in the wind. When 90% of Americans and 75% of republicans wanted the most recent bill and it was still stopped due to the senate supermajority shenanigans, it should have been clear that it is wasted energy in our current climate.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Tav wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    And people wonder why I twitch at stuff like twitter being used for political discourse.

    Full sentences, paragraphs and speeches are important to the context of a story and a stance.

    A single sentence or a few small lines is playing tabloid gotcha bullshit.

    who needs context when i can have a 6 second clip of obama saying the n-word?

    The moment I saw those headlines first thing I did was go listen to the entire podcast and not read the stories.

    Because that way I got to decide and hear what he was talking about in context.

    I don't think most people do that.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    *still despises podcasts*

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Trace wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    I think he was talking about differences in culture towards guns between the rural and urban areas. Which are very different.

    Also he goes on and lists what he does want to do for gun control. I mean this man has an average rating from the NRA of an F or a D.

    And guess what? The stuff he wants to do are very much the same things you hear from most Dems including Obama. Tighten restrictions on guns. Increase the background checks. Get rid of whatever is left of the gun show loop hole. Increase care for mental illness while finding ways to restrict folks with mental illness from getting guns. Even mentioned the assault weapon ban which I won't get into the word stuff.

    So guess what? He isn't that different from most folks unless you are looking for absolute and total banning of firearms which will not happen no matter who you vote for.

    I don't -want- a total banning of firearms. I want heavy goddamned restrictions on them. So, cool. Bernie probably wants a lot of the same stuff I want regarding that.

    Talking about Vermont, a state which is almost 100% white and that has a population less 10,000 in the state capital, and acting like it's representative of even a large swathe of -hunters- in the US is ridiculous.

    Defend your constituents Bernie but don't act like they're a representative of any significant portion of the US population. Because they're not. Especially in comparison to multi-ethnic, multi-cultural cities like LA, NYC, or Chicago.

    It's a good job that's not what Sanders is doing then.
    "Let me add to that, I think that urban America has got to respect what rural America is about, where 99 percent of the people in my state who hunt are law abiding people."

    Because rural Texas and rural Vermont are so alike.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    Morning all.

    Unfortunately, not Friday yet.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    I'm ambivalent about that Doom picture because it proves how sinister the speech can be, which is good, but the fact it's still a real speech is bad.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    I twitch at speeches all the time because a policy stance can switch in the space of three sentences, and with the right intonation it might not even be noticed

    Key of being informed is learning the ability to catch that.

    Informed citizens pay attention. Call when bullshit is there. Problem is we are so dependent on the 30 second sound bite to explain it that if the news industry decides it isn't worth it then most people won't notice anyway.

    I did learn the ability to catch that: I started ignoring recordings without transcripts

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 21
    ronya wrote: »
    *still despises podcasts*

    ?

    Don't follow too many, so I'm naturally curious.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    I'm ambivalent about that Doom picture because it proves how sinister the speech can be, which is good, but the fact it's still a real speech is bad.

    it also does a terrible job of defending liberal multiculturalism, which is the point of that particular attack

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited April 21
    ronya wrote: »
    *still despises podcasts*

    ?

    Don't follow too many, so I'm naturally curious.

    I want to think about things, not nod along

    that means mental engagement, a podcast just entails waiting for the ideas to flow in via dialup whilst I still have to pay full attention

    so, no podcasts for me

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