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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
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    Enlong wrote: »
    “I Don’t Know What My Cheat Ability Is In Another World, But At Least I Have My Dog”.

    That is just Kemono Michi.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
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    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I kinda want an Isekai with a person who knows Isekai tropes and thinks that they have a special power but is just a dumb-fuck with no powers, dropped into a medieval world with no money or skills, and has to try to survive as a peasant.

    I doubt it'd be successful, but I feel like the industry needs that sort of catharsis.

    That's basically Re: Zero.

    Aside from getting to do it over again when he dies horribly (and often), but yes.

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I kinda want an Isekai with a person who knows Isekai tropes and thinks that they have a special power but is just a dumb-fuck with no powers, dropped into a medieval world with no money or skills, and has to try to survive as a peasant.

    I doubt it'd be successful, but I feel like the industry needs that sort of catharsis.

    That's basically Re: Zero.

    Also kind of konosuba , Kazuma kinda sucks at everything but is kinda sorta lucky.

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I kinda want an Isekai with a person who knows Isekai tropes and thinks that they have a special power but is just a dumb-fuck with no powers, dropped into a medieval world with no money or skills, and has to try to survive as a peasant.

    I doubt it'd be successful, but I feel like the industry needs that sort of catharsis.

    That's basically Re: Zero.

    Also kind of konosuba , Kazuma kinda sucks at everything but is kinda sorta lucky.

    Let's be fair, he is competent strategist and makes a good use of skills he has.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Man the MHA season finale sure is some powerful stuff eh, got my heart pumping even I have already read the manga

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    I used to struggle with understanding why I hate Isekai so much...

    Then I realized the grand majority of them are just the harem genre repackaged with a bit of gamer player fantasy on top and I was like...yeah that's why.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
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    Like, I enjoy a lot of stories in the vein of the older 'parallel world' fantasies like Escaflowne, Inuyasha, Fushigi Yugi, Aura Battler Dunbine, Magic Knights Rayearth, or El Hazard. I mean, even Spirited Away technically counts, doesn't it?

    And while it's more of a sci-fi example, but for a 'normal person isekai where practically everything goes wrong' you've got Now and Then, Here and There.

    But it does seem like the modern Isekai stuff is a lot more narrowly defined into the kind of thing Drag is talking about?

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
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    "Ordinary person gets teleported to a fantasy world to give an easy reason for exposition and a more relatable point of view character" is a pretty obvious, tropey writing shortcut, but it has utility to it, and as long as you're slotting it into a good fantasy story, its obviousness will fade into the background.
    "Ordinary person gets teleported to a fantasy world so that we'll have justifications to give our mary sue MC their overpowered BS" is impossible to fit into a good story.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Even OP bullshit can be a good story if the characters are solid. It's just they very rarely are anything more than their power.

    One of my favorite isekai is Moonlit Journey Across Another World, where the main character becomes just as powerful as the goddess who pulled him there about halfway into the story. However, it's interesting to me because of how unwilling he is to use the power at high specs because he fears becoming inhuman. All of his interactions with people are from a position of respect, even when he technically rules over a kingdom of his own, which ends up drawing people to him even when they don't fathom just how much power he has because he constrains himself as best he can.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 20
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
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    Or like, take a powerful character from one kind of setting, and stick them in a different kind of world, but one where they have be careful and clever in how they use their powers because in a head to head fight they don't compare favorably to the native big shots. That could be cool too.

    But harems are always bad. The only one I can think of that I really liked was Ranma 1/2, where the entire series is basically about the main two characters trying to get rid of their respective suitors (including eachother at least some of the time).

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
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    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Or like, take a powerful character from one kind of setting, and stick them in a different kind of world, but one where they have be careful and clever in how they use their powers because in a head to head fight they don't compare favorably to the native big shots. That could be cool too.

    But harems are always bad. The only one I can think of that I really liked was Ranma 1/2, where the entire series is basically about the main two characters trying to get rid of their respective suitors (including eachother at least some of the time).

    I'd love to see that first one. Like someone has gotten so powerful in their world that the resident god punts them out because they're screwing everything up. Then they land in another world and find that they're considered pretty good, but nowhere near the top, and if they want to get stronger they'll have to remember what life was like when they were weak.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    That kinda happens in the Touhou games, but not as any kind of story focus. It’s kind of just a character trait that Sanae’s divine powers made her kind of a Big Deal in the real world, but moving to Gensokyo, she found out that her divine powers are mostly things everyone there can do anyway.

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Madican wrote: »
    Even OP bullshit can be a good story if the characters are solid. It's just they very rarely are anything more than their power.
    Yeah, the mary sue part, and the way the story warps around validating that character, is the active ingredient. The OP stuff is just one of the forms that takes, and the form that isekai stuff is used to justify.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
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    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

    If you think that the extremely personal scenes they had around the making of shoes had nothing to do with the romance that developed, I think you watched a different movie than I did. Those interactions are framed as completely intimate and... yeah sensual even.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    How about an Isekai where a fantasy loving teenage nerd finds out he is getting isekai'd, gets carefully chooses his broken cheat power, only to end up in a sci-fi world cause the goddess that sent him over was into Star Wars and now his cheat isn't anything special.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

    If you think that the extremely personal scenes they had around the making of shoes had nothing to do with the romance that developed, I think you watched a different movie than I did. Those interactions are framed as completely intimate and... yeah sensual even.

    Just the amount of camera focus & screentime the woman's feet get in the clips used for that AMV I linked gave me the impression that the director is into that. That's not meant as a comment on the quality of the movie (I mean, Tarantino's got a foot thing and it hasn't held back his work), just that the theme's clearly present.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

    If you think that the extremely personal scenes they had around the making of shoes had nothing to do with the romance that developed, I think you watched a different movie than I did. Those interactions are framed as completely intimate and... yeah sensual even.

    Just the amount of camera focus & screentime the woman's feet get in the clips used for that AMV I linked gave me the vibe that the director is into that.

    That's not meant as a comment on the quality of the movie, just that it's clearly a present theme.

    Yeah if you have that interest... this movie will appeal to you. It's not even an argument someone could make to the contrary. Like Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, it's something that the visuals of the movie focus a lot on, but unlike that one, I do think it's actually an influence on the plot.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
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    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I kinda want an Isekai with a person who knows Isekai tropes and thinks that they have a special power but is just a dumb-fuck with no powers, dropped into a medieval world with no money or skills, and has to try to survive as a peasant.

    I doubt it'd be successful, but I feel like the industry needs that sort of catharsis.

    That's basically Re: Zero.

    Also kind of konosuba , Kazuma kinda sucks at everything but is kinda sorta lucky.

    Yeah, but Konosuba also has the very literal isekai RPG system and Kazuma gets actual skills and levels up.

    Subaru is basically just a random dingus and not even a skilled dingus at that.

    You get enough chances at something though and you'll eventually get skilled. The trauma part conceals how broken a do-over power is

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    I didn't read the novel so I wonder if Subaru actually gets stronger or OP later on

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 20
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

    If you think that the extremely personal scenes they had around the making of shoes had nothing to do with the romance that developed, I think you watched a different movie than I did. Those interactions are framed as completely intimate and... yeah sensual even.

    It does, but only in asmuch as it's what he does for a hobby. It doesn't mean it's fetish material, it's relevant to the story.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
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    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, I like synthwave quite a bit, especially when I'm reading action/adventure stuff in a modern setting and/or certain kinds of sci-fi. I stumbled across this cool song set to clips from Madhouse's Redline:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J635mqk769k
    Is this a movie I should see? I watched a clip of the opening sequence and the animation was pretty nuts. Apparently the project nearly bankrupted them?

    Also, speaking of AMVs with crazy animation, the same dj made this (film: The Garden of Words):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DRgELHPo8
    This movie's description didn't sound like something I'd be interested in (may/december romance for foot fetishists), but holy crap that is gorgeous.

    That is a terrible description of Garden of Words. It's about two people who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives, and their paths intersect in a quiet garden.

    It's a gorgeous film, and my favorite Makoto Shinkai work. Blows Your Name and Weathering With You out of the water.

    Counter opinion: the short description is factually accurate

    I fail to see how, since the main character just happens to design shoes.

    If you think that the extremely personal scenes they had around the making of shoes had nothing to do with the romance that developed, I think you watched a different movie than I did. Those interactions are framed as completely intimate and... yeah sensual even.

    It does, but only in asmuch as it's what he does for a hobby. It doesn't mean it's fetish material, it's relevant to the story.

    I meant that the character in the story could very conceivably have that interest. The courtship is pretty similar to Phantom Thread if you think about it. It's his job but also what he's into?
    The physical intimacy of her taking off her clothes (shoes and socks) and letting her touch him leads to inappropriate (based on their societal positions) emotional intimacy. That's the plot of the movie. The feet stuff is explicitly romantic.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
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    It's kind of weird to me that Danmachi is not an isekai, but still has all the RPG level-up stuff built in and the main character still needs everything explained to him.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited April 20
    Lars wrote: »
    It's kind of weird to me that Danmachi is not an isekai, but still has all the RPG level-up stuff built in and the main character still needs everything explained to him.

    This format of fantasy anime is increasingly being called "native isekai", as in, it's basically an isekai world but everyone is from there

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I kinda want an Isekai with a person who knows Isekai tropes and thinks that they have a special power but is just a dumb-fuck with no powers, dropped into a medieval world with no money or skills, and has to try to survive as a peasant.

    I doubt it'd be successful, but I feel like the industry needs that sort of catharsis.

    That's basically Re: Zero.

    dude in Re: Zero absolutely had a super power. it just is like not the one you'd want

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    It's kind of weird to me that Danmachi is not an isekai, but still has all the RPG level-up stuff built in and the main character still needs everything explained to him.

    This format of fantasy anime is increasingly being called "native isekai", as in, it's basically an isekai world but everyone is from there

    Man, used to be that’s just what we’d call a fantasy story with exposition problems. And it’d be justified by the protagonist being an idiot or amnesiac.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited April 20
    Enlong wrote: »
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    It's kind of weird to me that Danmachi is not an isekai, but still has all the RPG level-up stuff built in and the main character still needs everything explained to him.

    This format of fantasy anime is increasingly being called "native isekai", as in, it's basically an isekai world but everyone is from there

    Man, used to be that’s just what we’d call a fantasy story with exposition problems. And it’d be justified by the protagonist being an idiot or amnesiac.

    Oh yeah it's just kind of a crazy trend lately that so darn many fantasy anime now treat isekai tropes as a default setting

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    I think what differentiates fantasy from native isekai is that the former doesn't have levels, named skills, named classes, and a general video game feel overlaid on the entire world. The latter has all of that.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    There are several Isekai stories where the main character doesn't get any powers and makes due or gets a really weak power that isn't secretly overpowered.

    The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar the main character's only special power is his solar powered phone can still get a signal in temples and Wikipedia.

    Outbreak Company the main character is a nerd with no special powers who is sent to a fantasy world to teach them about vidya, animoos, and waifus.

    Cooking with Wild Game the main character is trainee chef who ends up in a forest meeting a tribe of amazon-esque hunters who only care about getting enough nutrition from food and couldn't care about the taste.

    How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom the main character was a collage graduate aiming to get a government job and ends up being made king of a fantasy country and his special power is mainly used to speed up filling out paperwork.

    Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skill the main characters special power is an online grocery store and lucks into legendary creatures and gods want him as a chef and delivery person.

    Her Majesty’s Swarm the main character is a RTS gamer and ends up leading her zerg knockoff army against the nations of a fantasy world but is otherwise a normal person.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
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    Madican wrote: »
    I think what differentiates fantasy from native isekai is that the former doesn't have levels, named skills, named classes, and a general video game feel overlaid on the entire world. The latter has all of that.

    But Isekai stories aren’t all RPGs, are they? I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch that have their dude get yeeted into another world without that. Ascendance of a Bookworm, for instance; that’s just a fantasy world, not one with HP and Super Artes.

    Granted, I’m not speaking from a wealth of knowledge on the genre.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    Enlong wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    I think what differentiates fantasy from native isekai is that the former doesn't have levels, named skills, named classes, and a general video game feel overlaid on the entire world. The latter has all of that.

    But Isekai stories aren’t all RPGs, are they? I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch that have their dude get yeeted into another world without that. Ascendance of a Bookworm, for instance; that’s just a fantasy world, not one with HP and Super Artes.

    Granted, I’m not speaking from a wealth of knowledge on the genre.

    They aren't all RPGs but using RPG terms is easy to explain and then the author gets to be lazy with the world building and doesn't have to explain how magic works and stuff.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 20
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    There are several Isekai stories where the main character doesn't get any powers and makes due or gets a really weak power that isn't secretly overpowered.

    The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar the main character's only special power is his solar powered phone can still get a signal in temples and Wikipedia.

    Outbreak Company the main character is a nerd with no special powers who is sent to a fantasy world to teach them about vidya, animoos, and waifus.

    Cooking with Wild Game the main character is trainee chef who ends up in a forest meeting a tribe of amazon-esque hunters who only care about getting enough nutrition from food and couldn't care about the taste.

    How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom the main character was a collage graduate aiming to get a government job and ends up being made king of a fantasy country and his special power is mainly used to speed up filling out paperwork.

    Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skill the main characters special power is an online grocery store and lucks into legendary creatures and gods want him as a chef and delivery person.

    Her Majesty’s Swarm the main character is a RTS gamer and ends up leading her zerg knockoff army against the nations of a fantasy world but is otherwise a normal person.

    the last one sounds a little bit interesting, is that one animated or what

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
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    Only the first 2 are animated although just barely in Master of Ragnarok's case. The rest are light novels with the middle 2 getting manga adaptations.

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