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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Lucedes wrote: »
    are there any isekai with a reverse harem? i ask as someone who's read most of the genre and can't recall any.
    i've mostly seen male protag with a bunch of cute girl party members, or female protag with a bunch of cute girl party members.

    there are some isekai i've read with weak/support female protag who romances an OP native male,
    but those mostly just have romance genre conventions, which are fine but not very spicy, structurally speaking.

    re: gleipnir, the ecchi is indeed tedious and horrible as usual, but i'm in for the body horror and femdom i guess.
    protag vaguely reminds me of shinji.

    Bakarina

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Isekai with "reverse harems" tend to be in the "reincarnated into an otome game" genre, although to be honest most of the ones I've seen have had the formerly-a-villainess protagonist laser-focused on their designated romantic target (because they deserve them so much more than the "real" protagonist of the game, see), or occasionally have them hook up with said capture target's "liutenant".

    I'm reading the manga for "Common Sense of a Duke’s Daughter", which has a bunch of bishies devoted to the MC but also one very obvious capture target. (The protagonist of the otome game is, of course, a vapid villainess. Clichés!)

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Lucedes wrote: »
    are there any isekai with a reverse harem? i ask as someone who's read most of the genre and can't recall any.
    i've mostly seen male protag with a bunch of cute girl party members, or female protag with a bunch of cute girl party members.

    there are some isekai i've read with weak/support female protag who romances an OP native male,
    but those mostly just have romance genre conventions, which are fine but not very spicy, structurally speaking.

    re: gleipnir, the ecchi is indeed tedious and horrible as usual, but i'm in for the body horror and femdom i guess.
    protag vaguely reminds me of shinji.

    There's practically a subgenre for that specifically for the Shinsengumi. A lot of the anime adaptations do forego having a vapid player avatar and just have the pretty boys sit around sipping tea. There's one of those this season. But there's an assload of them out there.

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    I can't get into Bakarina. All the supposed consequences are too far off, so it's just a neurotic person ranting about what could happen if she were a completely different person, like if Quantum Leap was about a random nobody and Sam was a neurotic paranoid. I also can't shake the icky feeling that it's still a power fantasy where she has all the advantanges, except this time it's knowing everybody's deepest, darkest secrets, not to mention the future, but everything in the writing and direction just romanticizes what she's doing. It's also not like she's running into any blocks like causing what she's trying to prevent or causing something worse as normally happens in these kinds of Quantum Leap/Minority Report/Law and Oracle setups.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    The closest character which I can think of is probably Zero from Drakengard 3, she's not isekai or anime though

    Other then that I guess I can't really think of any female protagonist who have an actual reverse harem like her.

    Also I don't really know how to phrase the question in an intelligent or respectable manner but is there a anime or manga which comes the closest to the concept of a girl's power fantasy if they exist? I am really curious, don't mean to offend anyone

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Drakengard 3 is... complicated and I have mixed feelings about the writing.
    In my opinion, it's not exactly a shining example of progressiveness, it pretty much takes all the story and character tropes of an exceptionally misogynistic male-protagonist female-harem harem story and reverses the genders of all the characters. An argument can be made this is intentional and exaggerated satire of harem stories, maybe to illustrate to men how creepy and fucked up it is when they see it through the lens of being the harem members, but I feel like it was really only vaguely gesturing towards that idea of satire as an excuse to revel in the sex and violence and reversed misogyny unironically.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    It's not an isekai but there was a manga about a mafia boss's daughter, whose father had a tournament for his daughter's hand in marriage and to succeed him as mafia boss.

    The daughter entered to gain her freedom.

    Can't recall the name, but it got an anime.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Peas wrote: »
    The closest character which I can think of is probably Zero from Drakengard 3, she's not isekai or anime though
    Other then that I guess I can't really think of any female protagonist who have an actual reverse harem like her.


    Couple direct examples. Tons more if we remove the requirement for a character to be reincarnated/transported into another world.

    https://myanimelist.net/anime/33966/Yume_Oukoku_to_Nemureru_100-nin_no_Ouji-sama
    https://myanimelist.net/anime/34209/Meiji_Tokyo_Renka

    There are a fuckload of the 'satire' power fantasies in both genres where the character is an omnipotent god but it's supposed to be funny because they either don't want it or are clueless. People mentioned a few in the last couple pages. They pretty much have de facto harems too, or at least a cabal of characters in love with and slavishly devoted to them, just not outright wanting to ride their dicks.
    https://myanimelist.net/anime/38790/Itai_no_wa_Iya_nano_de_Bougyoryoku_ni_Kyokufuri_Shitai_to_Omoimasu
    https://myanimelist.net/anime/37393/Watashi_Nouryoku_wa_Heikinchi_de_tte_Itta_yo_ne

    There are plenty that are entirely female characters, but they tend to be fanservice things, either straight up T&A (Freezing, Queens Blade, Senran Kagura, Ikkitousen, etc), or the more yuri bend (Granbelm, Kannazuki no Miko, Noir, etc). Nanoha or Symphogear probably fit the bill. Warning though. First two seasons (of both) are great. Third season on though, the writing and action falls straight off a cliff. Also, in both, the few regular men in them clown all over the superpowered women constantly, which is especially bad in Symphogear, so... not exactly great girl power.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Drakengard writing has always been....vastly, VASTLY uncomfortable since Drakengard 1 and it's laser focus on incest and a significant amount of rape.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Drakengard writing has always been....vastly, VASTLY uncomfortable since Drakengard 1 and it's laser focus on incest and a significant amount of rape.

    Did the incest vibe ramp up in Drakengard 3? There was that significant instance of it in Drakengard 1’s story, but IIRC, the only place it went was for one of the parties involved to go “oh hell no” immediately upon learning what the other was thinking.

    And I barely recall much about Drakengard 2’s story other than Nowe being apocalyptically stupid, but he had no living family.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Drakengard's the game where bad things happen to horrible people right

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    drakengard 3 is good

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    unless you like framerates

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  • Shenl742Shenl742 Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Enlong wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Drakengard writing has always been....vastly, VASTLY uncomfortable since Drakengard 1 and it's laser focus on incest and a significant amount of rape.

    Did the incest vibe ramp up in Drakengard 3? There was that significant instance of it in Drakengard 1’s story, but IIRC, the only place it went was for one of the parties involved to go “oh hell no” immediately upon learning what the other was thinking.

    And I barely recall much about Drakengard 2’s story other than Nowe being apocalyptically stupid, but he had no living family.

    If I recall, the incest themes in Drakengard 3 are entirely in the background lore and consist only of the fact that
    One and her Brother/clone have sex with each other

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Paladin wrote: »
    Drakengard's the game where bad things happen to horrible people right

    I remember seeing a quote from somewhere that Drakengard was about villains being heroes while Nier (Gestalt/Replicant) was about heroes being villains, or something along those lines

    but yeah, the main characters in Drakengard 1 are exceptionally horrible, like literally pedophiles, cannibals and serial killers. They're saving the world, though! Wooo.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Caim isn’t so much a serial killer as he is a soldier who is way, way too into the murder part of his job. And has no mercy whatsoever.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited April 22
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    Lucedes wrote: »
    are there any isekai with a reverse harem? i ask as someone who's read most of the genre and can't recall any.
    i've mostly seen male protag with a bunch of cute girl party members, or female protag with a bunch of cute girl party members.

    there are some isekai i've read with weak/support female protag who romances an OP native male,
    but those mostly just have romance genre conventions, which are fine but not very spicy, structurally speaking.

    re: gleipnir, the ecchi is indeed tedious and horrible as usual, but i'm in for the body horror and femdom i guess.
    protag vaguely reminds me of shinji.

    Bakarina

    It is less helpful than you think to answer someone’s question with your cute nickname for something and nothing else

    https://www.crunchyroll.com/my-next-life-as-a-villainess-all-routes-lead-to-doom/episode-1-i-recalled-the-memories-of-my-past-life-794619

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Whippy wrote: »
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    Lucedes wrote: »
    are there any isekai with a reverse harem? i ask as someone who's read most of the genre and can't recall any.
    i've mostly seen male protag with a bunch of cute girl party members, or female protag with a bunch of cute girl party members.

    there are some isekai i've read with weak/support female protag who romances an OP native male,
    but those mostly just have romance genre conventions, which are fine but not very spicy, structurally speaking.

    re: gleipnir, the ecchi is indeed tedious and horrible as usual, but i'm in for the body horror and femdom i guess.
    protag vaguely reminds me of shinji.

    Bakarina

    It is less helpful than you think to answer someone’s question with your cute nickname for something and nothing else

    https://www.crunchyroll.com/my-next-life-as-a-villainess-all-routes-lead-to-doom/episode-1-i-recalled-the-memories-of-my-past-life-794619

    The show was the 1st result on google for “Bakarina”, so I’m pretty sure that’s the official or widely-popular nickname. Kinda like how “Hagaren” gets you Fullmetal Alchemist, or “Konosuba” gets you God’s Blessings Upon This Wonderful World.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited April 22
    Nicknames don’t work if you’re introducing something new to someone! And “konosuba” is the official name used in English!

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  • LucedesLucedes Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    i guess it's just a demographics thing,
    because there are a lot of titles in the romance-genre-style with a male harem, but not really any in the fantasy-video-games-genre.

    So I'm a Spider, So What is a power fantasy isekai with a female protag but she doesn't have a harem.

    Noir was the first title that came to my mind when i thought about female power fantasy but it's more complex than that.

    ed: it's probably also a lineage thing because fiction with male harems mostly comes from romance novel/manga/VN traditions,
    whereas isekai-game-fantasy has a different and very particular lineage compared to traditional fantasy that features isekai, like spirited away or whatever.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Whippy wrote: »
    Nicknames don’t work if you’re introducing something new to someone! And “konosuba” is the official name used in English!

    But in this case, the nickname leads to exactly the same thing as if the response had been “All Routes Lead To Doom”, so I don’t get what the issue is. It quickly gets you to the info, so I would say it does work to introduce it. A link to the Wikipedia article or a quick summary would be better, sure.

    As for Konosuba, I suppose that is officially used, but that’s I imagine because it was so widely used as a nickname. Also, I just like occasionally remembering that the full name of that show is as hilariously garbage as most other light novels.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    What do you call four brass instruments that can't play in harmony.

    A KonoTuba.

    Ha ha.

    Ah ha.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Oh, ok. Didn’t think about that. My first instinct was to google it.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    I was really confused with ‘Bakarina’ and thought it was a completely different show

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    The show about an idiot ballerina would be Princess Tutu.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited April 22
    I was really confused with ‘Bakarina’ and thought it was a completely different show

    the nicknames thing is a long held pet peeve of mine so sorry if i come off aggro but it really flared up here cause i thought this also

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    You should fuse with the pulsating gestalt flesh orb that knows all the nicknames, then you wouldn't have this problem.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    ah flesh orbs.

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Mysst wrote: »
    Bakarina is more egregious than most, as there's not even any reference to the actual title

    Yeah I've seen the first episode of My Life as a Villainess and it took me a couple takes to realize they were talking about it.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Enlong wrote: »
    The show about an idiot ballerina would be Princess Tutu.

    man that was such a good show

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Listeners Ep2:
    so it probably wasn't helped by the fact that I was tired and turned it off and took a nap halfway through but this got way too weird way too fast. I have no clue what is going on anymore. The sisters hacking the ending credits was really novel though.

    Gal & Dino ep2:
    I absolutely lost it at the dude pulling out the Death Note. I had no idea the over the top movements had become a joke in Japan the same way they have here but the dude pulling out the pen was great.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    So, I read the Otome Game novels and just caught up with the couple of anime episodes and is still entertaining to watch Bakarina.

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  • KnightKnight Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    So, I read the Otome Game novels and just caught up with the couple of anime episodes and is still entertaining to watch Bakarina.

    how are the light novels? i've liked the two episodes i've seen so far and i've never read a light novel, so could be interesting.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 22
    Neveron wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Drakengard's the game where bad things happen to horrible people right

    I remember seeing a quote from somewhere that Drakengard was about villains being heroes while Nier (Gestalt/Replicant) was about heroes being villains, or something along those lines

    but yeah, the main characters in Drakengard 1 are exceptionally horrible, like literally pedophiles, cannibals and serial killers. They're saving the world, though! Wooo.

    Not in ending D they aren't....

    But in D2 and D3, they really are trying to save the world. Especially in D3, albeit through horrible means.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Knight_ wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    So, I read the Otome Game novels and just caught up with the couple of anime episodes and is still entertaining to watch Bakarina.

    how are the light novels? i've liked the two episodes i've seen so far and i've never read a light novel, so could be interesting.

    They are good, but after the first "season" is over you feel that the author gets a case of Kubo syndrome aka "Ok, now what?" so the following novels are less good.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    drakengard 2 is barely even in the same canon as drakengard 1 and 3, yoko taro wasn't involved with it and the rest of his extended ridiculous canon including the nier series doesn't really acknowledge it.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    drakengard 2 kaim desperately wants you to think he's guts

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    drakengard 2 is barely even in the same canon as drakengard 1 and 3, yoko taro wasn't involved with it and the rest of his extended ridiculous canon including the nier series doesn't really acknowledge it.

    Well that’s because of timeline shenanigans. Drakengard 2 follows off of Drakengard’s Ending A, whereas Nier follows off of Ending E.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    So, I read the Otome Game novels and just caught up with the couple of anime episodes and is still entertaining to watch Bakarina.

    how are the light novels? i've liked the two episodes i've seen so far and i've never read a light novel, so could be interesting.

    They are good, but after the first "season" is over you feel that the author gets a case of Kubo syndrome aka "Ok, now what?" so the following novels are less good.

    Volume 9 is coming out in Japan in a couple days while J-Novel Club just started on the 6th so maybe it will improve. But if you are interested it is one of this months catch up titles for J-Novel Club members and part of their stay inside promo is a code for a free month of membership.

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