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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Princess Connect ep 3 was pretty much Shokugeki no Konosuba.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    My entire twitter timeline is nothing but Karyl faces/gifs from Princess Connect and I am 100% fine with that.

    Don't think I'm interested in the show, but something about watching that cat get bullied is hilarious to me.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Madican wrote: »
    ... Not sure how to feel about that one tbh

    Bad.

    Feel bad. Venom was not a good movie. Enjoyable perhaps but thats mostly on the director and actors

    By all accounts there was a really good movie that was edited out of the Venom movie

    Havnet seen the Venom movie, but hoenslty, i've foudn myself very "eh" about OPM. At least, reading the Murata version? (I've not seen the anime, nor read the orignal).

    It feels like as takes on superhero stuff, My Hero Academia does the "Actual society of heros" way better, and OPM just feels kinda flat/incredibly cynical. Not in particularly interesting cynical ways. +Not even touching on some of hte more gross character stuff in OPM. (Prisoner, i'm looking at you)

    I do need to give Mob Psycho a look, because by all reports that's real good

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    opm didn't click for me at all but I would absolutely go to bat for mob psycho

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    OPM got a big lift by season one's animation and soundtrack.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.
    I think they established that this was Japan-specific as far as Supers-rules. Regardless though, the impetus was essentially mass chaos at every level because no one was in check. Maybe at some point the pendulum will find the happy middle, but it's still better than what they had before.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Sorce wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.
    I think they established that this was Japan-specific as far as Supers-rules. Regardless though, the impetus was essentially mass chaos at every level because no one was in check. Maybe at some point the pendulum will find the happy middle, but it's still better than what they had before.

    Like i dont think you're wrong there Madican, but that's half the point of why i like MHA - it shows a complicated world that has issues! It's shown us that people acting for good can completely screw things up if they're not trained (Gentle Criminal)... and also stuff like what you've pointed out, where good deeds got buried by the police, where the laws and culture are NOT fair. And the show is aware it's not fair, it talks a lot about the prejudice - even the schooling system is called out how prejudiced it is around powers and there are efforts happening to change this

    Also, my personal headcannon (Which is i think decently backed up by some of the implication in the story/refrences) is that MHA is taking palce in like 22XX or so - There was basically full on societal collapse when superpowers emerged. (it's also referenced that the crime rate world wide is crazy high in general - japan is the only place with sub 10%, which is called out as being an explict result of All Might).

    Like MHA is secretly hell of a dystopia, and it's an interesting one!

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Impressive news: Demon Slayer has beaten One Piece's record for most volume sales in a fiscal year, only 21 weeks into the fiscal year.



    UFO Table should charge $Texas for adaptations going forward, since apparently anything they touch turns to gold.

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Something to note about Demon Slayer's sales, though, before you get too excited: it's largely people buying back issues as they suddenly become aware of the series, rather than One Piece's thing where they get crazy sales on current volumes as well.

    Still, though, that anime sure did good for them.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I'm like halfway through Mobile suit Gundam now, it's pretty crazy how influential this all is.

    It was a massive shakeup in the industry. Up till then (and let's be fair, even the original couldn't shake all the tropes) mecha anime was about giant robots that were literal deus ex machina, with epic arcs. Gundam was really the first major series to treat mecha as weapons of war, and to try to address the social and political issues that would cause something like the One Year War. There is a reason (okay, a few reasons) why it's refered to as the Japanese Star Trek.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Sorce wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.
    I think they established that this was Japan-specific as far as Supers-rules. Regardless though, the impetus was essentially mass chaos at every level because no one was in check. Maybe at some point the pendulum will find the happy middle, but it's still better than what they had before.

    The bigger thing is that this has always been the part where the "mutant metaphor" (that is, the mapping of real world bigotry and the civil rights movement onto more fantastic versions) breaks down, and badly. Quirks can be genuinely dangerous even if the user means well, and the state has a legitimate ground for regulation that just doesn't exist with regards to things like race or creed. Case in point - take Eri: her Quirk is incredibly dangerous, and this is amplified by her not having any control over it. She's effectively in protective custody because it's necessary not only to protect her from those who would abuse her, but also to protect others from her power!

    (Also, I'd recommend watching the OSP video on robots, as Red has a good section on why fictional metaphors for bigotry can be really problematic.)

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 22
    Isorn wrote: »
    Just finished Madoka. Over the years I kinda ended up getting spoiled on two things which is a shame but I absolutely loved the show.

    One of the spoilers should be about the Rebellion movie which I will watch tomorrow.
    Recently /r/anime on Reddit had a 24 hour best anime girl contest. Halfway through the voting they changed the name of the contest to the worst girl contest. (april fools joke)
    Homura won that contest so I have no idea what the movie does with her character but ought to be fun.

    Stop now. Pretend the movies don't exist.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Nah, Rebellion is absolutely worth watching.
    But then again I am unironically in the "Homura did nothing wrong camp" because anyone who looks at Urobuchi's bullshit depression world and says "fuck this, I'm gonna blow it all up" is okay by me.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 22
    ph blake wrote: »
    Nah, Rebellion is absolutely worth watching.
    But then again I am unironically in the "Homura did nothing wrong camp" because anyone who looks at Urobuchi's bullshit depression world and says "fuck this, I'm gonna blow it all up" is okay by me.

    I'm in the 'asking a writer to forcibly continue a story that had a perfectly good resolution is a terrible idea' camp(hi, Steins;Gate Zero).

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    I liked the idea of Steins; Gate 0, since (just going by the anime here)
    the "true ending" portion of the original show felt kind of disconnected and unsatisfying. But to go through 23 episodes of 0 and still end with "and then a different timeline bailed us out" was the worst.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 22
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    I liked the idea of Steins; Gate 0, since (just going by the anime here)
    the "true ending" portion of the original show felt kind of disconnected and unsatisfying. But to go through 23 episodes of 0 and still end with "and then a different timeline bailed us out" was the worst.

    I loved the true ending, but 0 felt like it had the most contrived reasoning.
    "Well, that worked out okay, but one if this one particular specific moment didn't"

    It has neat ideas, and I like the new characters, but it just feels like retreading ground for no good reason, and making Okabe suffer more(as if he hasn't enough).

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.

    You absolutely can use your power. Like, Izuku's mom isn't a hero, and she casually uses her telekinesis power while chatting with her son's doctor without worry. Kids in elementary school (prior to joining any sort of hero school) are using their powers left and right. The power restrictions are on some competitions* (can't use your powers to get ahead in elementary school PE), and using particularly destructive powers in populated areas. Like, that dude who got arrested in chapter 1 turned into a giant in a busy street in the middle of rush hour. Setting aside the fact that he was also trying to steal someone's purse before transforming, that's just a reckless endangerment law. Having and using your power isn't illegal; using it in ways that can or do harm people is.

    *though, most competitions that would be harmed by the existence of powers seem to have just faded from popularity in favor of power-using competitions. Like the Olympics

    As for the "let the police take credit" thing, I think that happened the one time, and it was because the kids weren't yet licensed to use their powers on other people, and they had caused some severe injuries to the villain they took down. It was kinda like them saying "if nobody knows you were involved, you won't have to explain why you had guns out without a license". Granted it's kind of iffy that they would let them shift the credit. I know it was our heroes doing the job, so we know that 2/3ds of them had the best of intentions and they wouldn't have survived any other way, but it makes me wonder if they could or have let this kind of thing happen in less ideal circumstances.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Enlong wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.

    You absolutely can use your power. Like, Izuku's mom isn't a hero, and she casually uses her telekinesis power while chatting with her son's doctor without worry. Kids in elementary school (prior to joining any sort of hero school) are using their powers left and right. The power restrictions are on some competitions* (can't use your powers to get ahead in elementary school PE), and using particularly destructive powers in populated areas. Like, that dude who got arrested in chapter 1 turned into a giant in a busy street in the middle of rush hour. Setting aside the fact that he was also trying to steal someone's purse before transforming, that's just a reckless endangerment law. Having and using your power isn't illegal; using it in ways that can or do harm people is.

    *though, most competitions that would be harmed by the existence of powers seem to have just faded from popularity in favor of power-using competitions. Like the Olympics

    As for the "let the police take credit" thing, I think that happened the one time, and it was because the kids weren't yet licensed to use their powers on other people, and they had caused some severe injuries to the villain they took down. It was kinda like them saying "if nobody knows you were involved, you won't have to explain why you had guns out without a license". Granted it's kind of iffy that they would let shift the credit. I know it was our heroes doing the job, so we know that 2/3ds of them had the best of intentions and they wouldn't have survived any other way, but it makes me wonder if they could or have let this kind of thing happen in less ideal circumstances.

    I think there's some more general rules about use of powers in public versus private, etc. Nobody cares about people using them at home, but there's paperwork to use them in public. Kids are more loosely regulated because fuck it, they're kids, and nobody is crazy enough to think they can totally stop them.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    MHA Vigilantes suggests that some unauthorized power use is kind of a slap on the wrist type situation, and some is more like knocking over a convenience store, depending on what you did, precisely.

    Edit: And I'll throw my hat into the "watch Madoka Rebellion" pile. If you thought the series was interesting, it is also interesting.
    There's a John Wick/ Equilibrium gun-kata battle in the middle of the movie! You should feel bad for trying to get people to skip it!

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    MHA Vigilantes suggests that some unauthorized power use is kind of a slap on the wrist type situation, and some is more like knocking over a convenience store, depending on what you did, precisely.

    I think it's mainly that heroes are the only ones allowed to use their powers liberally. Everyone else is probably supposed to limit it to home or work. I can't imagine society not taking advantage of useful quirks - Uraraka has a scene mentioning she uses hers to help at the family business iirc?

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Polaritie wrote: »
    MHA Vigilantes suggests that some unauthorized power use is kind of a slap on the wrist type situation, and some is more like knocking over a convenience store, depending on what you did, precisely.

    I think it's mainly that heroes are the only ones allowed to use their powers liberally. Everyone else is probably supposed to limit it to home or work. I can't imagine society not taking advantage of useful quirks - Uraraka has a scene mentioning she uses hers to help at the family business iirc?

    MHA quirk laws are basically just "Sensible Gun Control Regulation" in a world where 80% of everybody is born with something between a derringer and a tactical nuke they can't get rid of.

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    been rewatching Hunter x Hunter

    the ending of episode 53 has to be among my favorite moments in the series
    Kurakpika sulking in a corner as a bratty teen plays with the eyes of his dead family member is great

    "kurapika is drowning in an unspeakable emptiness"

    take that you little shit

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    been rewatching Hunter x Hunter

    the ending of episode 53 has to be among my favorite moments in the series
    Kurakpika sulking in a corner as a bratty teen plays with the eyes of his dead family member is great

    "kurapika is drowning in an unspeakable emptiness"

    take that you little shit
    Wait, I remember that line; wasn't that after he had actually recovered (what he thought was) a set of the eyes, and was losing it because he thought the Phantom Troupe was dead before he could get to do anything about them?

    Which, yeah, revenge is empty, but I feel more sad about him than anything else.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Polaritie wrote: »
    MHA Vigilantes suggests that some unauthorized power use is kind of a slap on the wrist type situation, and some is more like knocking over a convenience store, depending on what you did, precisely.

    I think it's mainly that heroes are the only ones allowed to use their powers liberally. Everyone else is probably supposed to limit it to home or work. I can't imagine society not taking advantage of useful quirks - Uraraka has a scene mentioning she uses hers to help at the family business iirc?

    MHA quirk laws are basically just "Sensible Gun Control Regulation" in a world where 80% of everybody is born with something between a derringer and a tactical nuke they can't get rid of.

    Which comes back to why the "mutant metaphor" doesn't really work - there are genuine reasons the state has an interest in regulating Quirks.

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Enlong wrote: »
    been rewatching Hunter x Hunter

    the ending of episode 53 has to be among my favorite moments in the series
    Kurakpika sulking in a corner as a bratty teen plays with the eyes of his dead family member is great

    "kurapika is drowning in an unspeakable emptiness"

    take that you little shit
    Wait, I remember that line; wasn't that after he had actually recovered (what he thought was) a set of the eyes, and was losing it because he thought the Phantom Troupe was dead before he could get to do anything about them?

    Which, yeah, revenge is empty, but I feel more sad about him than anything else.

    that's exactly it
    I just hate Kurapika so I think it's funny when he's sad

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Enlong wrote: »
    been rewatching Hunter x Hunter

    the ending of episode 53 has to be among my favorite moments in the series
    Kurakpika sulking in a corner as a bratty teen plays with the eyes of his dead family member is great

    "kurapika is drowning in an unspeakable emptiness"

    take that you little shit
    Wait, I remember that line; wasn't that after he had actually recovered (what he thought was) a set of the eyes, and was losing it because he thought the Phantom Troupe was dead before he could get to do anything about them?

    Which, yeah, revenge is empty, but I feel more sad about him than anything else.

    that's exactly it
    I just hate Kurapika so I think it's funny when he's sad

    I hate victims of genocide too

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    I wonder if Kulapika gonna make it through the end of the
    current
    arc
    Togashi is most likely not going to use the same thing from the previous one
    Alluka magic

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Peas wrote: »
    I wonder if Kulapika gonna make it through the end of the
    current
    arc
    Togashi is most likely not going to use the same thing from the previous one
    Alluka magic

    there are stands now, so who even knows

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Random Steins Gate complaint from someone who never finished it.
    I was super on board with Steins gate, until it lost me at “ Well this rich traumatized child with dead parents MAY be able to help me find a mcguffin, so obviously I should let her have an unconditional time machine wish.” was a bridge too far for me, especially after they got super lucky TWICE with changing the timeline and not having everything fall apart.

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Madican wrote: »
    MHA skews uncomfortably close to authoritarianism with how it portrays supers and powers. You were born with a power but you can't legally use it unless you're a super, and you can't be a super unless you submit to draconian laws and processes. Defiance of these laws, of this society, even for good things gets you branded as a villain without exception for daring to push back.

    Like several times in MHA they have to use their abilities to actually save people and are told to let the police have the credit or they will be punished.

    You're not wrong Madican, and this illustrates a fundamental difference between American and Japanese value systems. Wisecrack did a video talking about this a while back though I think it’s half-baked at best. There are a few people on this forum who I think can do a much better job than I can talking about modern Japanese culture, but I'll give it a shot here briefly. The Japanese have always greatly valued harmony, order, and self-development, and this is reflected in their religion and philosophy. There's also a strong sentiment of Japanese cultural exceptionalism: a sense of pride and uniqueness of their own culture and relationship to the land and nature. Antisocial behavior in inimical to a healthy society, and the Japanese recognize a certain amount of interdependence is both natural and healthy. No one questions the fact that children are dependent on their parents, and later in life those parents may come to depend on their children. So too are citizens dependent on their government, and to a lesser extent the government is dependent on its citizens acting in accordance with the law and playing nice with each other. There is still a strong Confucian influence on the culture and government: small hierarchical differences in age, sex, and social status are coded into the very language. Finally, and I think this is the most difficult thing for Americans in particular to accept, there is a strong faith in the government at all levels. The Japanese recognize faults and failings in individual members of the government, but on the whole belief whole-heartedly that the institution and services it provides are in their best interests and executed fairly.

    Returning to that Wisecrack video I linked, it’s easy to look at some of these aspects and assume more nefarious intent. The IRE codified moral education but it didn’t derive the curriculum from Fascist ideology but rather distilled it from existing Japanese philosophy. Further it totally misses the mark by looking backwards in history rather than forwards: All-Might is a very poor stand-in for The Emperor, but an excellent (and on the nose) one for American cultural influence. And this is why though I admit you’re not wrong, ultimately I didn’t give you that agree. MHA doesn’t glorify the state or promote authoritarianism: the very conflicts you bring up illustrate that. Instead the better way to read MHA is as Japanese cultural appreciation of the American idea of superheroes. As has been done time and time again, the Japanese take a foreign idea and examine it under their own cultural lens to give their unique take on it.

    The US country study on Japan is a good read if you'd like to know more. Additionally I recommend The Chrysanthemum and the Sword by Ruth Benedict: it was published immediately following WWII, but some of the deeper insights into Japanese culture are still very applicable.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Peas wrote: »
    Returning To The Cat Returns 10:29
    https://youtu.be/AtzmhrxWLvc

    Whoa, wait, "Jiblee"? I always thought it was a hard g like in 'ghost', because of the gh?

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
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    I must point out that when you put Confucian authors into their historical context, you realize most of them praised order and harmony during times when those things didn't exist

    East Asian history is generally characterized by weak governments which struggled to exert control over the vast territories and populations they claimed and much of East Asian political philosophy must be understood in that context

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    It's very easy to praise the value of a powerful government when you're a court philosopher eating from their table and not a serf being brutalized for funsies by same.
    Random Steins Gate complaint from someone who never finished it.
    I was super on board with Steins gate, until it lost me at “ Well this rich traumatized child with dead parents MAY be able to help me find a mcguffin, so obviously I should let her have an unconditional time machine wish.” was a bridge too far for me, especially after they got super lucky TWICE with changing the timeline and not having everything fall apart.

    The whole thing with the first part of the show is that they're just testing their machine for funsies because they're not totally convinced it will work. Once they realize that it DOES work and the consequences of that, the show immediately shifts into more of a horror/drama stance.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Peas wrote: »
    Returning To The Cat Returns 10:29
    https://youtu.be/AtzmhrxWLvc

    Whoa, wait, "Jiblee"? I always thought it was a hard g like in 'ghost', because of the gh?

    I used to think the same thing. But then I heard folks saying it in documentaries and well, if you can read katakana...

    株式会社スタジオブリ

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
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    Huh, learn something new every day.

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