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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    hmm yeah this series is definitely aware of its subtext
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    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    I haven't understood any of these monogatari charts btw

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    A lot has been made of Bakarina's inability to tell all these guys and girls are madly in love with her, but the crowning moment of her density has got to be (latest episode)
    finding a bright red button in a trap infested maze and immediately going "hmm, I wonder what this does"

    I mean, she assumes the world she's in runs on videogame logic because it's the world of a videogame. And she knows perfectly well that in games, you can't actually make any drastic changes to the main story, you just fiddle with the details around the edges.

    She just hasn't quite figured out that what's a videogame story to her is real life to everybody else. And most likely she never will because she's Bakarina.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    So why do people call it Bakarina anyway.

    I get wanting a shorter name to call the show but the chosen nickname doesn’t seem to come from anywhere so I don’t get it.

    Took me a while to figure out what show people were even talking about.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Zonugal wrote: »
    For tonight I stopped after episode 18 of Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

    But, folks, can we talk about how the entire game seems to have changed in episode 16.
    The Grand Minister aka Darth Sideous has arrived???

    oh you've gotten to those jerks?

    first time logh-ers don't click
    the earth stuff is the only thing that drags down the show

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    So why do people call it Bakarina anyway.

    I get wanting a shorter name to call the show but the chosen nickname doesn’t seem to come from anywhere so I don’t get it.

    Took me a while to figure out what show people were even talking about.

    It's just "Baka" (fool, idiot) + "Catarina" (the main character)

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    So why do people call it Bakarina anyway.

    I get wanting a shorter name to call the show but the chosen nickname doesn’t seem to come from anywhere so I don’t get it.

    Took me a while to figure out what show people were even talking about.

    The protagonist is a total idiot and her name is Catarina. So Baka + Catarina = Bakarina.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    One of the things I like about rakugo shinju is how it handles its performing arts stuff. There's rakugo, kabuki, and geisha performances, and all three of them have these like deep wells of cultural tradition and artistic foibles. On the one hand they're fine art, and very tradition-bound art, but they're also all pop art and they all have their grimy sides, too. Like the geisha lady sings and dances and performs and is an artist at having charming conversation, but she's also definitely a prostitute... But then there's also just plain prostitutes, and her job and their job are really really not the same thing at all, either. Rakugo's very stylized and has rules and forms that must be followed, but also it has like erotic stories as part of its canon, and plenty of dirty humor. And most of their performances are happening right in the red light district - which is also tradition - so it's like this big messy mix of formal art right next to drinking and whoring.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 24
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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Char Aznable, huh? Weren't you telling us about how you heard he's got a six pack the other day? How he's ripped?

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Char Aznable, huh? Weren't you telling us about how you heard he's got a six pack the other day? How he's ripped?
    In half, presumably.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    and tell me how cool the Guncannon is

    your friends have exquisite taste

    also i just finished the companion podcast episode for the end of gunbuster and i'm crying all over again

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    So why do people call it Bakarina anyway.

    I get wanting a shorter name to call the show but the chosen nickname doesn’t seem to come from anywhere so I don’t get it.

    Took me a while to figure out what show people were even talking about.

    The protagonist is a total idiot and her name is Catarina. So Baka + Catarina = Bakarina.

    The other Japanese abbreviation seems to be Hamefura from the full title Otome Gēmu no Hametsu Furagu Shika Nai Akuyaku Reijō ni Tensei Shiteshimatta, which is a little more esoteric probs to the non-japanese speaking audience.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Hah, otome isekai really is taking over I guess.

    I Favor the Villainess has apparently been licensed for an anime. It was a webnovel and has kind of a similar vibe to Bakarina, but not harem, it's yuri, and its queerness is much more at the forefront. Also it was written by a queer trans lady, iirc.

    The main thing that stands out with "I favor" though is
    the protagonist was older when she got isekai'd, and she was a closeted lesbian who'd never been in a relationship, endured some pretty bad homophobic bullying in high school, had friends who committed suicide, and like is very aware of the difference between anime's sorta acceptance/fetishization of homosexuality versus real Japan's lack of acceptance. Even the game she's isekai'd into - which was her favorite game - is not written for her, the romances are strictly heterosexual. The writers even thoughtlessly throw in some homophobia into their world just to make things seem more fleshed out and exciting.

    Like where Catarina's clueless barely-subtext pansexuality is cheerful and accepting, I Favor actually has a much sadder subtext running through it. Early on she really plays up that whole predatory-but-harmless gay comic relief thing, think of like whatsherface from Railgun. And when she's finally called out on it her internal narration is basically how she knows it's shitty and harmful but wtf else is she supposed to do, the only way she can really deal with stuff is by making fun of herself.

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    DHS wrote: »
    So why do people call it Bakarina anyway.

    I get wanting a shorter name to call the show but the chosen nickname doesn’t seem to come from anywhere so I don’t get it.

    Took me a while to figure out what show people were even talking about.

    The protagonist is a total idiot and her name is Catarina. So Baka + Catarina = Bakarina.

    The other Japanese abbreviation seems to be Hamefura from the full title Otome Gēmu no Hametsu Furagu Shika Nai Akuyaku Reijō ni Tensei Shiteshimatta, which is a little more esoteric probs to the non-japanese speaking audience.

    The other abbreviation here in the West was "Death Flag Otome", IIRC, which incidentally lines up well with the Japanese abbreviation. Usually Japanese light novel abbreviations would be the first two words but, well, "Otoge" for "Otome Game" is way too broad.

    "Bakarina" also lines up with other otome game isekais that are referred to be their protagonists, e.g. Kenkyo, Kenjitsu o Motto ni Ikite Orimasu being "Reika-sama".

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    The isekai boom was worth it for the otome isekai subgenre

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  • IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    cB557 wrote: »
    I haven't understood any of these monogatari charts btw

    If you wanted a watch order for Monogatari. The below is the most straightforward and easy to read watch order. I'd recommend watching Kizumonogatari second instead of going with the alternate placement.
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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Mysst wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    Usopp is unintentionally dumb but just for gags. Brook is intentionally dumb for gags. Zoro is very dumb. Luffy is somehow even dumber. Nami and Robin aren't dumb. Franky and Chopper are both pretty dumb despite both ostensibly being very knowledgeable. Yes I omitted Sanji. yes it was purpose.

    Jinbei isn't dumb and he's learning the hard way just how dumb luffy is

    That's my favorite part of people teaming up with the Straw Hats, when they realize there is no dissuading them from their dumb antics.

    Along with the moment where that same person gets swept up in their dumb antics.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    The only thing I really feel like asking about the -monogatari series is if the rest of them have a pun name as masterful as "bakemonogatari".

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Kana wrote: »
    hmm yeah this series is definitely aware of its subtext
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    I mean at a certain point I think it just becomes text. Small print text, sure, but still text.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 22
    cB557 wrote: »
    I haven't understood any of these monogatari charts btw

    Think of it like Haruhi. You can watch it in the order it aired, the order it occurs chronologically, or, ideally, not at all.
    (Haruhi excepted from the last.)

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    Enlong wrote: »
    The only thing I really feel like asking about the -monogatari series is if the rest of them have a pun name as masterful as "bakemonogatari".

    "Nisemonogatari" is the only other one off the top of my head. Although Bakemonogatari gets bonus points for being able to be translated as "Ghostory" or "Monstory"

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Is there going to be a Tabemonogatari

    no wait that's just food wars

    laugh at my pun, I know like five words of Japanese

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Zonugal wrote: »
    For tonight I stopped after episode 18 of Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

    But, folks, can we talk about how the entire game seems to have changed in episode 16.
    The Grand Minister aka Darth Sideous has arrived???

    oh you've gotten to those jerks?

    first time logh-ers don't click
    the earth stuff is the only thing that drags down the show

    it's fineeeee

    big fucking spoilers oh my god don't click
    I'll never forgive them for what they end up doing about 3/4ths through the show

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  • J-bobJ-bob J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Enlong wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    Usopp is unintentionally dumb but just for gags. Brook is intentionally dumb for gags. Zoro is very dumb. Luffy is somehow even dumber. Nami and Robin aren't dumb. Franky and Chopper are both pretty dumb despite both ostensibly being very knowledgeable. Yes I omitted Sanji. yes it was purpose.

    Jinbei isn't dumb and he's learning the hard way just how dumb luffy is

    That's my favorite part of people teaming up with the Straw Hats, when they realize there is no dissuading them from their dumb antics.

    Along with the moment where that same person gets swept up in their dumb antics.

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    Law is without a doubt my favorite character in the manga.

    Law is dumb but very deeply in denial.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    That reminds me, around that time instead of isekai, the fad seemed to be along the lines of "Sci Fi where the main guy is extremely talented but hides it behind a laid-back or downright moronic facade, and when they get serious is when shit is really going down."

    Spike from Cowboy Bebop
    Vash from Trigun
    Gene Starwind from Outlaw Star
    Captain Tylor from Irresponsible Captain Tylor

    Tylor's probably king of the "pretending to be the idiot" trope, because I don't think the show ever even confirmed if he really was faking it to cover his talent, or if he was just an extremely lucky idiot. I think it was at least heavily implied to be the former though.

    Also: long coats.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I guess everyone blows past the classics when talking about favorite anime moments?

    My favorite classic these days is Gunbuster:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HQOEMs4uE

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  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    The "Yes, Lets" into Izanagi Kick has been stuck in my head for days

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    I mean part of my issue is I have terrible memory so 80s and 90s anime that I watched years ago blur into a fog.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited April 22
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    Usopp is unintentionally dumb but just for gags. Brook is intentionally dumb for gags. Zoro is very dumb. Luffy is somehow even dumber. Nami and Robin aren't dumb. Franky and Chopper are both pretty dumb despite both ostensibly being very knowledgeable. Yes I omitted Sanji. yes it was purpose.

    Jinbei isn't dumb and he's learning the hard way just how dumb luffy is

    That's my favorite part of people teaming up with the Straw Hats, when they realize there is no dissuading them from their dumb antics.

    Along with the moment where that same person gets swept up in their dumb antics.

    YoQfNzz.jpg

    Law is without a doubt my favorite character in the manga.

    Law is dumb but very deeply in denial.

    law is very clever, he's just too clever and underestimates how dumb most characters in one piece are

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  • J-bobJ-bob J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Ok yeah nvm both of ya put it better than me.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    The thing from Gunbuster that's always stuck with me is the very last scene.

    "Welcome hom3"

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Naphtali wrote: »
    The thing from Gunbuster that's always stuck with me is the very last scene.

    "Welcome hom3"

    That is funny because
    This is ALSO one of the scenes that sticks with me from Diebuster, which is every bit as great as the original.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 24
    Oh! Gurren lagann would definitely get a few greatest anime moments.

    For me:
    Kamina punching Simon before their final Giga Drill Breaker.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 24
    Oh! Gurren lagann would definitely get a few greatest anime moments.

    For me:
    Kamina punching Simon before their final Giga Drill Breaker.
    King Kaitan (sp?) Giga Drill Breaker.

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