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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Zero is a battle between actual Masters and Servants. Stay Night is a bunch of randoms and an idiot with some magic potential in a battle that's been fucked before it even began.
    There's basically just two "proper" mages in Stay Night and both of them have a reluctance to fully shred morality like real mages do. Not to mention the presence of an 8th Servant, a Fake Servant, and Rule Breaker causing utter chaos.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I am baffled by the implication that FSN is a worse story because the plot is that they are doing the fictional ritual wrong.
    Like half the fun of the story is puzzling out the mystery of the ritual and why it is fucked up.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Re: 17 in super: I was also confused that he was still alive because I did not remember his being explicitly shown as revived after the cell saga, and also I vaguely remembered him being a villain in one arc of GT, I think the one where all the old bad guys escaped from hell? But GT's not canon so either the writers of that were wrong or I am misremembering how he fit into that story.

    I don't know if there's more in the anime, but in the manga there's a single panel of 17 when they're charging the spirit bomb in the final battle versus Buu. The same sequence also shows some characters from original pre-Z Dragon Ball.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I am baffled by the implication that FSN is a worse story because the plot is that they are doing the fictional ritual wrong.
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anime fans should never recommend anime to anyone

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Zero is a battle between actual Masters and Servants. Stay Night is a bunch of randoms and an idiot with some magic potential in a battle that's been fucked before it even began.
    There's basically just two "proper" mages in Stay Night and both of them have a reluctance to fully shred morality like real mages do. Not to mention the presence of an 8th Servant, a Fake Servant, and Rule Breaker causing utter chaos.

    It's a clear disparity between a script written by Nasu and a script written by Urobuchi.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    They're just different entry points and tones, not really any better or worse. The dumbass caught up in a magic experiment he has no business surviving in vs lots of dumbasses willingly joining a magic experiment for a cup

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'm gonna be honest I straight up forgot he got brought back, because in Z he didn't do shit after that (which again I liked). I'm a bit tired of shows like that trotting out fan favorites but not really doing it in a satisfying way, and that's how I felt about 17. Not like it's a huge deal to me, but if you're gonna return to the characters just gimme a good reason why we're doing so; the Broly movie did a fantastic job of weaving him back into the canon, meanwhile 17 just kinda gets drafted before a big fight and he's like ok sure

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I continue to maintain that the best piece of fate anime is the time they decided to animate every fate and tsukihime parody gag manga they had printed in their magazine over the years and made carnival phantasm

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    17 has a wife and kids. The universe ending kinda affects them so yeah he's willing to join.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    17 has a wife and kids. The universe ending kinda affects them so yeah he's willing to join.

    Ok?? Wife and kids I have no investment in. Like gimme a better reason at all. This is what I mean by writing, they significantly rewrote Broly to slot him in. The 17 stuff fell really flat for me. If it worked for you, bueno.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Also why the fuck wasn't 16 brought back by the Dragonballs. He was technically a cyborg too. Is there a specific ratio of flesh to metal that disqualified him or is it because he was a ginger

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    UFOtable literally turns straw into gold

    Demon Slayer is a billion dollar franchise.

    Ufotable took a generic and ok quality series and elevated it to the pinnacle of its medium. The stuff that was in Season 1 Episode 19 wasn't nearly as remarkable in manga form.

    Though by the time the anime came out, the manga's quality had improved a lot so much so that I actually think the anime vindicated the manga a bit.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    The Broly movie was the most hands on the Toriyama has been in the series since Z. Super he writes outlines and another mangaka draws it. And while they are good at aping the style for static shots, the dynamic poses and fights are a bit lackluster.

    Then Toei was like "no this is too slow" and took the outline and made the Super Anime without waiting for the manga to get done. Which is why there are now major canon differences between the anime and the manga.

    This explains so much about my issues with Super. That and the rushed animation.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Also why the fuck wasn't 16 brought back by the Dragonballs. He was technically a cyborg too. Is there a specific ratio of flesh to metal that disqualified him or is it because he was a ginger

    If they had brought him back, I'd be even more pissed than I am now

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

    I refuse to believe that Berserker didn't win the Holy Grail War on accident while running around looking to buy batteries

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

    The only canon series are that and Today's Menu for the Emiya Family

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

    The best episode was when Emiya and Shiki were planning out their schedules to double-book every woman in the universe.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oh so you're saying AIs don't count as people huh, wow roboracism

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    16 should have been replaced by the best Android, #8

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

    I refuse to believe that Berserker didn't win the Holy Grail War on accident while running around looking to buy batteries

    I think the race episode might be my favorite.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    There's also new Carnival Phantasm stuff now focusing on Fate Grand Order.

    What happens when Chaldea has a budget crisis and needs to pick which Servants to dismiss? Field day tournament! And utter chaos.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Skeith wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Google suggestions: "is carnival phantasm canon"

    Buddy, absolutely. The most canon. One should rather ask if the rest of the fate franchise is canon.

    I refuse to believe that Berserker didn't win the Holy Grail War on accident while running around looking to buy batteries

    I think the race episode might be my favorite.

    That was going to be my second choice. "I have Riding A+."

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    16's sacrifice means a lot more Not being brought back (Unlike Krillin, Goku, literally half the universe in Z)

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    The clips I saw of the FGO carnival phantasm severely lacked the comedic oomf of the original one.

    But at least they brought back Neco Arc, strange though it feels to have her disconnected from Tsukihime.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I just realized, Goku's K/D radio is terrible. He's died like 5 times but killed like, one dude

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oh so you're saying AIs don't count as people huh, wow roboracism

    Talk to Shenron.

    It probably would have worked if the wish was "repair 16" but the Z fighters are idiots and assholes.

    Piccolo: Resurrect me with the Namek Dragonballs so it'll bring back the Earth Dragonballs.
    Krillin: Done!
    Piccolo: Okay now bring me to you guys so I can fight this dude who has been literally annihilating everyone he faces, practically ensuring my death again which will make your whole ordeal pointless.
    Krillin: Done! Wait what?

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    The clips I saw of the FGO carnival phantasm severely lacked the comedic oomf of the original one.

    But at least they brought back Neco Arc, strange though it feels to have her disconnected from Tsukihime.

    Probably because it didn't have the same love put into it, it felt more like an obligation.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I dunno if it was love or skill but either way yeah

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I just realized, Goku's K/D radio is terrible. He's died like 5 times but killed like, one dude

    He killed way more than one dude.

    I completely forgot about Dragon Ball where he was a menace to everyone

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Hulk Goku has never killed anyone

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kinda hilarious that as Goku got more powerful he got less dangerous

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