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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I liked Golden Freiza but mannnn did it feel like a plot to sell more toys (just like every new flavor of Goku in super haha)

    I'm just glad they finally have Gohan some non-chump shit to do

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Shenl742 wrote: »
    I remember 20ish years ago when I decided to watch some DBZ after a long time, and bought the first episodes of the Android arc on VHS...and this scene came up...

    it's after Trunks tells them all about his bad future, and Bulma suggests they use the dragon balls to find Gero and stop him before he creates the androids in the first place. And you know what happens?

    Goku wines that he doesn't want to do that, because he really wants to fight the androids. And Vegeta agrees and threatens to kill anyone who tries it.

    And this pretty much breaks Dragon Ball forever for me. I know this series is pretty dumb and silly. But this (and a few other things, but especially this) just angered me on such a primal level that I can't really think of it being good in any sense of word, ever again. This is just so critically stupid. I hate these characters, I hate these stories, just hate it.

    To be fair Goku was right, he could totally whoop their ass and back. If he didn't have heart cancer or whatever

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Did they ever explain why Goku didn't take the medicine Trunks specifically brought back in time to save him from dying, so he almost ended up dying anyway?

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I thought he did, or else would have died fighting the androids

    Also Krillin gets a big red button to press to blow up 18's head but decides to not do it, so she gets eaten and Cell becomes whole

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Did they ever explain why Goku didn't take the medicine Trunks specifically brought back in time to save him from dying, so he almost ended up dying anyway?

    He never started to get sick, so he never took the medication.

    I'd call him an idiot but that's redundant and also that's absurdly common in real life.

    FOLLOW YOUR DAMN PRESCRIPTION, GOKU.

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I do still love the fact that Frieza unlocked his new more powerful form by, for the first time in his life, actually trying. And he's incredibly embarrassed at having to do it.

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  • Shenl742Shenl742 Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Shenl742 wrote: »
    I remember 20ish years ago when I decided to watch some DBZ after a long time, and bought the first episodes of the Android arc on VHS...and this scene came up...

    it's after Trunks tells them all about his bad future, and Bulma suggests they use the dragon balls to find Gero and stop him before he creates the androids in the first place. And you know what happens?

    Goku wines that he doesn't want to do that, because he really wants to fight the androids. And Vegeta agrees and threatens to kill anyone who tries it.

    And this pretty much breaks Dragon Ball forever for me. I know this series is pretty dumb and silly. But this (and a few other things, but especially this) just angered me on such a primal level that I can't really think of it being good in any sense of word, ever again. This is just so critically stupid. I hate these characters, I hate these stories, just hate it.

    To be fair Goku was right, he could totally whoop their ass and back. If he didn't have heart cancer or whatever

    Maybe (I don't remember how much trouble 16-18 gave him after he was cured). But leaving Gero alone also meant that Cell ended up happening.

    Regardless, it's the story flat out saying that in order for things to happen, the characters have to straight up ignore the thing it's literally named after. And pretty much putting the lives of lots of innocent people at risk because Goku wanted to have some fun.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    I watched a clip in a tweet. Like I said, I don't watch the show itself, and didn't make it past the initial Saber/Lancer fight of Zero, but when people talk things up, I get curious and look to see if things genuinely are different or better than my initial impressions, so I've seen a lot of the 'big' moments.

    You barely saw the warm up of Zero. Right after that is when multiple servants start throwing down at once.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I thought he did, or else would have died fighting the androids

    Also Krillin gets a big red button to press to blow up 18's head but decides to not do it, so she gets eaten and Cell becomes whole

    To be fair, 18 hadn't done anything at that point and Krillin had reason to believe she was not a bad person.

    The blame there lies in Vegeta, as usual, getting a big head and letting Cell go after her. Also Trunks for hiding his power to not upset Vegeta.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Now with the Golden Frieza stuff, I'm very curious how they might tackle a redo of Cooler like Broly got.

    Cooler's probably the next most popular movie villain after Broly, right?

    They'd pretty much have to say Cooler was banished to the ass end of the universe or something to explain his absence.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    I watched a clip in a tweet. Like I said, I don't watch the show itself, and didn't make it past the initial Saber/Lancer fight of Zero, but when people talk things up, I get curious and look to see if things genuinely are different or better than my initial impressions, so I've seen a lot of the 'big' moments.

    You barely saw the warm up of Zero. Right after that is when multiple servants start throwing down at once.

    I've seen the fights, and I know how long and how arduous it is to both get to them, and to sit through them. I'm good, thanks.

    Also, the 'warm up' is nearly a third of the show.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'd actually like to see some bullshit where the pull in Bardock somehow, maybe through time shenanigans. I want Goku to meet his dad and realize he's a tyrannical piece of shit just like the rest of the Saiyans. And then they can have an unholy smackdown live on WWF

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I thought he did, or else would have died fighting the androids

    Also Krillin gets a big red button to press to blow up 18's head but decides to not do it, so she gets eaten and Cell becomes whole

    That one is on Vegeta, not Krillin. Krillin made the ethical decision to not kill someone pre-crime style (... because he was horned up). Vegeta then decided to not win the fight on purpose because challenge is life affirming to him.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    I watched a clip in a tweet. Like I said, I don't watch the show itself, and didn't make it past the initial Saber/Lancer fight of Zero, but when people talk things up, I get curious and look to see if things genuinely are different or better than my initial impressions, so I've seen a lot of the 'big' moments.

    You barely saw the warm up of Zero. Right after that is when multiple servants start throwing down at once.

    I've seen the fights, and I know how long and how arduous it is to both get to them, and to sit through them. I'm good, thanks.

    Also, the 'warm up' is nearly a third of the show.

    Zero's about a lot more than just the fights.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Lars wrote: »
    Now with the Golden Frieza stuff, I'm very curious how they might tackle a redo of Cooler like Broly got.

    Cooler's probably the next most popular movie villain after Broly, right?

    They'd pretty much have to say Cooler was banished to the ass end of the universe or something to explain his absence.

    King Cold sent Frieza to one end and Cooler to the other, with the goal of whoever conquers more of the universe becomes his successor. Cooler reaches the halfway mark expecting to meet his brother and gets informed of how daddy's dead and Frieza got his ass beat. Cue the teamup, duo training, and maybe even a canonization of Golden Cooler. I mean that's my take on how they could do it.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Also Dragon Ball Heroes is hilarious just because it is as close to official fanfiction as Dragon Ball is gonna get. All the lunacy they can't do on the official show is approved and boy do they take full advantage. God Trunks, Super Saiyan 4 Broly, Golden Cooler, Majin Babidi, Gohanks, etc. It's madness and I love it.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    I watched a clip in a tweet. Like I said, I don't watch the show itself, and didn't make it past the initial Saber/Lancer fight of Zero, but when people talk things up, I get curious and look to see if things genuinely are different or better than my initial impressions, so I've seen a lot of the 'big' moments.

    You barely saw the warm up of Zero. Right after that is when multiple servants start throwing down at once.

    I've seen the fights, and I know how long and how arduous it is to both get to them, and to sit through them. I'm good, thanks.

    Also, the 'warm up' is nearly a third of the show.

    Zero's about a lot more than just the fights.

    Yeah, that stuff is the excruciating price to pay to get to see random historical figures punch each other in the face.

    And the waifus/husbandos, as I believe the children say.

    Which is also a fairly excruciating price, though certainly far more egregious in the other Fate iterations.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    four episodes into Ranking of Kings, and this is the most per hour that any piece of media not directed by Pixar has ever made me cry tbh

    The best descriptor I could come up with for that show is Charming

    I've just binged through the webcomic version of that and it is _incredible_ how quickly I became invested in the characters and what will happen to them, wow. (ooh, and looking at episode descriptions it looks as if the anime is significantly ahead of the (translated) webcomic, so I guess time to do some watching)

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Cooler's the only other movie villain to get a sequel so, presumably?

    EDIT: For the very, very bad Dragonball Heroes thing they did introduce Golden Cooler.

    Dragonball heroes is great in a terrible way because it's basically everything ever in Dragonball jammed together. It's fantastic and very dumb and I'm glad it exists

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    As long as they keep the dumbest stuff there I'm ok.

    I'll admit tho my absolute favorite episode of Super is the one with Arale

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Yeah it's great

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    I watched a clip in a tweet. Like I said, I don't watch the show itself, and didn't make it past the initial Saber/Lancer fight of Zero, but when people talk things up, I get curious and look to see if things genuinely are different or better than my initial impressions, so I've seen a lot of the 'big' moments.

    You barely saw the warm up of Zero. Right after that is when multiple servants start throwing down at once.

    I've seen the fights, and I know how long and how arduous it is to both get to them, and to sit through them. I'm good, thanks.

    Also, the 'warm up' is nearly a third of the show.

    Zero's about a lot more than just the fights.

    Yeah, that stuff is the excruciating price to pay to get to see random historical figures punch each other in the face.

    And the waifus/husbandos, as I believe the children say.

    Which is also a fairly excruciating price, though certainly far more egregious in the other Fate iterations.

    None of the big moments of Zero are worth squat unless you've seen all the character setup that drives them. If you haven't seen the rest of the show the last fight between main protagonist and antagonist is completely meaningless. If you have, it is transcendent.

    It's an urubuchi show after all, it's entirely character driven.

    I remember watching the clip you showed once of a "great scene" and I didn't find it all that impressive, tbh. In particular, it still had a lot of people talking. I was missing all the character understanding and setup that made that fight pay off for you so much. Without it, it was just kinda there? Decent animation in parts, rest of it not that special.

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    If a hot robot beats up all my friends then calls me cute and kisses me on the cheek I'm not gonna push her destruct button either.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    A fuckload of people died because Krillin got a boner at work

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    and who can blame him

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I do want to say one thing...for all the complaints about T&A in other shows, episode one of Fate/Zero contains, by far, the most egregious thing we've seen on AniMenagerie so far. And we watched Madoka and Evangelion.

    If I posted a screenshot of this, which happens on screen with much, much more detail than is necessary no matter how important to the book's plot it might be, I would be immediately banned. If I said exactly what happened outside of spoilers, I'd probably get jailed.

    But let's just pretend it didn't happen and move on I guess? While that character appears every few episodes with incredibly obvious signs of what happened very visible and focused on so you could never possibly forget.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    It's based on a eroge I think people are lining up for that stuff to begin with

    But tbh never watched Fate because it sounds pretty not my bag so I can't talk shit

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Fate/Zero is a novel, actually

    Fate Stay Night was an erogame that was literally better when it was ported elsewhere without the h scenes

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    A fuckload of people died because Krillin got a boner at work

    They got better.

    Given how grave Future Trunks warning was, I'm inclined to think Krillin (and Goku and Vegeta) willfully endangered the future for very silly reasons. Easier to kill baby Cell and then resurrect the androids later if they think they could be saved, but nah

    Like I'm glad it happened, Cell Saga slapped and was the last like iconic DBZ arc but yeah, it was the start of them all making bad decisions to based on who they wanted to fight or fuck

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Fate/Zero is a novel, actually

    Fate Stay Night was an erogame that was literally better when it was ported elsewhere without the h scenes

    Look I believe you

    But isn't the porn game what blew it up?

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kind of, yeah

    Yeah, enough so that it got ported to like PS2 and stuff without any of the porn parts

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    It makes sense when you realize that it was an indie game, basically, and in Japan the barrier for indie game gets a lot lower if it's an indie porn game

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Reynolds wrote: »
    I do want to say one thing...for all the complaints about T&A in other shows, episode one of Fate/Zero contains, by far, the most egregious thing we've seen on AniMenagerie so far. And we watched Madoka and Evangelion.

    If I posted a screenshot of this, which happens on screen with much, much more detail than is necessary no matter how important to the book's plot it might be, I would be immediately banned. If I said exactly what happened outside of spoilers, I'd probably get jailed.

    But let's just pretend it didn't happen and move on I guess? While that character appears every few episodes with incredibly obvious signs of what happened very visible and focused on so you could never possibly forget.

    While I'm in no way defending that scene(and they handled it with way more tact and subtlety than the book, and it's sadly an inevitable aspect of the source material), I honestly find Caster's actions in the second episode to be just as if not more disturbing.
    (Incidentally, I think she only appears one more time in the entire series.)

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