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  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Their second manga Oshi No Ko is getting bonkers, might be where their focus lies right now

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/b51QB-jn5gU
    Loved the movie, really hope they can capture some of it's artistry in this

    I have a bootleg VHS of the original and it's glorious, the case is in Japanese but it's the English dub pirated with bad Chinese subtitles

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Mysst wrote: »
    Maybe there doesn't need to be this tight of a definition

    I don't really think "must involve another world" is all that stringent of a qualifier for the genre literally called another world

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Maybe there doesn't need to be this tight of a definition

    I don't really think "must involve another world" is all that stringent of a qualifier for the genre literally called another world

    Your definition of "world" meaning exclusively "planet" is the opposite of being precise or helpful.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    it is useful to compare literally-another-world stories to stories where it's technically the same world but time travel or whatever puts a protagonist in a fish-out-of-water situation strongly resembling the structure of an isekai

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Another world can be seen as a bit too fuzzy too. Dragonball would qualify imo with Goku being a fish out of water. he's literally sent to a new world as a baby and doesn't remember his past.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Wait, I've got it figured out.

    All stories are made up. Every genre is fantasy!

    I have solved media.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I don't feel like dragonball qualifies since it's not like he had a life before that that he remembers and is important to the plot, except much later as a surprise you're an alien twist

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    There's plenty of Isekai like that tho. Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash they don't have any memory or flashbacks to who they were before.

    Incredibly powerful dude just shows up in a strange world? Could be Goku, could be any Isekai protag

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    it is useful to compare literally-another-world stories to stories where it's technically the same world but time travel or whatever puts a protagonist in a fish-out-of-water situation strongly resembling the structure of an isekai

    Yeah, I can get the comparison since the story structures are similar. It's mostly the foundation I quibble about.
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Maybe there doesn't need to be this tight of a definition

    I don't really think "must involve another world" is all that stringent of a qualifier for the genre literally called another world

    Your definition of "world" meaning exclusively "planet" is the opposite of being precise or helpful.

    Please point out where I said this. At all.

    I mean you can't because I never did but go right ahead and try, I can use the laugh.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    dragonball also doesn't have any of the other signifiers of an isekai story that grimgar does have though

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    I'm saying the loose definition of Isekai means things like that can fall under the wide net "another world" casts

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 14
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    Another world can be seen as a bit too fuzzy too. Dragonball would qualify imo with Goku being a fish out of water. he's literally sent to a new world as a baby and doesn't remember his past.

    And he goes to a bunch of different worlds for that matter.

    But some people are also saying that isekai has to mean specifically traveling to another world from specifically contemporary Earth, and I think most people equate travel to another world in some form or another as a key part.

    Frankly, I try (not always remember to though) to shorthand the shitty things as power fantasy RPG or something like that. I've got nothing against isekai in spirit. Certainly some are great. I was involved in the projects for translating some of the classic isekai VNs back in my youthful days. But lately... yeah, trashy power fantasies rigidly adhering to RPG mechanics sums up 98% of them, whether or not anybody's actually coming or going from anywhere.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    When I consider another world I don't think planet, that's still the same world in my eyes since fundamentally it's in the same space.

    To me another world is one that is fundamentally different from the reality of the original and can't be reached through conventional means. Earth and Frieza Planet 419 are on the same plane of existence and are separated by mundane distance, so they're both the same "world" as far as things go. Earth and Disboard, from No Game No Life, are not on the same plane of existence. You can't launch from Earth in a ship and reach Disboard, you need to leave your universe behind and enter the new one which is governed by entirely different rules such as Tet and the whole game magical contract system.

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  • TamerBillTamerBill Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Maybe there doesn't need to be this tight of a definition

    I don't really think "must involve another world" is all that stringent of a qualifier for the genre literally called another world

    It's not literally called 'another world', it's literally called 'isekai'. Loanwords are not the same as speaking another language. You might as well argue that the Simpsons is anime because in Japanese that just means animation.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    It's only isekai if it was written by Watanabe Isek.

    Otherwise, it's sparkling incel fanfiction.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Maybe there doesn't need to be this tight of a definition

    I don't really think "must involve another world" is all that stringent of a qualifier for the genre literally called another world

    It's not literally called 'another world', it's literally called 'isekai'. Loanwords are not the same as speaking another language. You might as well argue that the Simpsons is anime because in Japanese that just means animation.

    There's simple translations for words in other languages and there's words that can't be directly translated. Isekai is one of the former, it has a direct translation and meaning.

    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited April 14
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    I google searched "Watanabe Isek" as a lark, mostly cause the idea of someone using that as a pen name amused me, and well

    I have no idea why this made me laugh so much

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    OMG quit talking about Grimgar

    You keep reminding me there's no second season.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
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    do talk about gengar tho

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  • TamerBillTamerBill Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

    I'm sorry you appear to have me mistaken for a small island nation when my official classification is semi-mobile landmass larger than a chicken but smaller than a horse. I wish you luck in addressing your complaints to the correct entity.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Ranking of Kings: done!

    Overall, lovely show, enjoyed it, but have some mixed feelings about it as a whole.
    It felt like it repeatedly had characters acting like dicks, only to flashback to their past and going "ah, but see, they had a good reason to be a dick, and now they're okay". It felt especially weird with Hilling, like she either just forgot she liked Bojji, or somehow didn't but still acted terrible towards him for years for no real reason, neither of which is great.
    And I guess Daida ordering Bojji killed was also okay because he learned his lesson. The less said about him marrying a woman twice+ his age the better.

    On a more personal note, I enjoyed the show more before it turned into a battle anime, but ho hum, shonen gotta shonen. And Miranjo's backstory with Gosh Some Cultures Are Just Too Oppressed To Not Be Backstabbers is just, maybe let's not.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Glal wrote: »
    Ranking of Kings: done!

    Overall, lovely show, enjoyed it, but have some mixed feelings about it as a whole.
    It felt like it repeatedly had characters acting like dicks, only to flashback to their past and going "ah, but see, they had a good reason to be a dick, and now they're okay". It felt especially weird with Hilling, like she either just forgot she liked Bojji, or somehow didn't but still acted terrible towards him for years for no real reason, neither of which is great.
    And I guess Daida ordering Bojji killed was also okay because he learned his lesson. The less said about him marrying a woman twice+ his age the better.

    On a more personal note, I enjoyed the show more before it turned into a battle anime, but ho hum, shonen gotta shonen. And Miranjo's backstory with Gosh Some Cultures Are Just Too Oppressed To Not Be Backstabbers is just, maybe let's not.
    I read Hilling's character as she's a deeply caring person who loves Bojji like her own son, but is comically bad at expressing it such that she comes off like an evil stepmom a lot due to her tone and phrasing. When she says mean-sounding things to him it's always out of worry about him. Which isn't to say that this is a good way to interact with your child at all, but she's trying to do the right thing, it just comes out wrong because that's her default way of speaking, especially in public. By the end she's getting better at catching herself doing that.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Kaguya season 3 off to a strong start.

    Also the romcom between the Tokusatsu Red Ranger and the Evil Empress is cute.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Glal wrote: »
    Ranking of Kings: done!

    Overall, lovely show, enjoyed it, but have some mixed feelings about it as a whole.
    It felt like it repeatedly had characters acting like dicks, only to flashback to their past and going "ah, but see, they had a good reason to be a dick, and now they're okay". It felt especially weird with Hilling, like she either just forgot she liked Bojji, or somehow didn't but still acted terrible towards him for years for no real reason, neither of which is great.
    And I guess Daida ordering Bojji killed was also okay because he learned his lesson. The less said about him marrying a woman twice+ his age the better.

    On a more personal note, I enjoyed the show more before it turned into a battle anime, but ho hum, shonen gotta shonen. And Miranjo's backstory with Gosh Some Cultures Are Just Too Oppressed To Not Be Backstabbers is just, maybe let's not.
    I read Hilling's character as she's a deeply caring person who loves Bojji like her own son, but is comically bad at expressing it such that she comes off like an evil stepmom a lot due to her tone and phrasing. When she says mean-sounding things to him it's always out of worry about him. Which isn't to say that this is a good way to interact with your child at all, but she's trying to do the right thing, it just comes out wrong because that's her default way of speaking, especially in public. By the end she's getting better at catching herself doing that.
    Yeah they never changed the way she acts early on so much as they only selectively show you her character to make her seem cruel so that they can subvert it by going "Oh but actually the entire time she's been incredibly caring toward Bojji and they have a pretty good relationship"

    Honestly, I thought it was a really effective bait and switch and it made me immediately like her a lot.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

    I'm sorry you appear to have me mistaken for a small island nation when my official classification is semi-mobile landmass larger than a chicken but smaller than a horse. I wish you luck in addressing your complaints to the correct entity.

    unrelated to the argument but I was reading a manga where they referred to their home country of Japan as a 'small island nation' and brother, I wanna see what a large island nation is considered

    Australia

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

    I'm sorry you appear to have me mistaken for a small island nation when my official classification is semi-mobile landmass larger than a chicken but smaller than a horse. I wish you luck in addressing your complaints to the correct entity.

    unrelated to the argument but I was reading a manga where they referred to their home country of Japan as a 'small island nation' and brother, I wanna see what a large island nation is considered

    Australia

    debatable but also one outlier wouldn't, I would think, make you start throwing adjectives on yourself

    i believe it's really intended as a "small, island nation" than "small island, nation", as a nation it ain't huge in that class, but nations that are islands then yeah it's not so big. physically. economically, culturally and population wise, then yeah that's not accurate in either context.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Their second manga Oshi No Ko is getting bonkers, might be where their focus lies right now

    re: end of latest chapter (77)
    well, dang, I did not see _that_ coming

    and while age difference is one thing, amount-of-being-alive-difference is probably harder to overlook

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    DHS wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

    I'm sorry you appear to have me mistaken for a small island nation when my official classification is semi-mobile landmass larger than a chicken but smaller than a horse. I wish you luck in addressing your complaints to the correct entity.

    unrelated to the argument but I was reading a manga where they referred to their home country of Japan as a 'small island nation' and brother, I wanna see what a large island nation is considered

    Australia

    debatable but also one outlier wouldn't, I would think, make you start throwing adjectives on yourself

    i believe it's really intended as a "small, island nation" than "small island, nation", as a nation it ain't huge in that class, but nations that are islands then yeah it's not so big. physically. economically, culturally and population wise, then yeah that's not accurate in either context.

    I read it that way also. BUT also Japan isn't really any smaller than, say, the United Kingdom.
    In fact it's nearly twice the population of the UK! And a bit over a third of the US population! Not the least bit small in any way.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Australia is pretty chonkers in landmass but everything else is itty bitty.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Also Japan does consider Simpsons to be anime. Because to them all animation is anime. Feel free to tell them they're wrong, I'm sure they'll listen.

    Yes, that is what I’m trying to get across. If a Japanese person said it in Japanese, they’d be right. If an English person said it in English they’d get a bunch of funny looks. Because loanwords do not map 1-to-1 to their meaning in the source language.

    I'm sorry you appear to have me mistaken for a small island nation when my official classification is semi-mobile landmass larger than a chicken but smaller than a horse. I wish you luck in addressing your complaints to the correct entity.

    unrelated to the argument but I was reading a manga where they referred to their home country of Japan as a 'small island nation' and brother, I wanna see what a large island nation is considered

    Australia

    debatable but also one outlier wouldn't, I would think, make you start throwing adjectives on yourself

    When you've been awake for over 24 hours anything is possible

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Have you too seen the crystal sax man?

    No but I did have a weird daydream/hallucination that something was reaching over me from behind while I was laying sideways on the bed, trying to get its hand underneath my bottom arm to grab my chest. Felt the pressure of its grip and everything, though it didn't really try to do anything after it succeeded so it was more strange than scary. I could have moved at any point, but I was fascinated by what I assume was my first encounter with a sleep paralysis "demon".

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    'Marry me!' is a good manhwa about a depressed neet getting married to an introverted civil servant as part of a 'neet protection plan'. Very Tonikaku without the later stuff. It's on webtoons.

    'The monstrous Duke's adopted daughter' is also very good. The Duke is a badass who has some great lines and the series itself is pretty good. About a young girl who's family tries to burn her to death to transfer her cool shadow powers to their shittier older daughter. Tapas for this one.

    'My gently raised beast' is about a girl who grows up with a divine beast and like I dunno it's just a kinda cute and funny thing. They time skip forward a lot so it doesn't drag overmuch. Webtoons.

    'What should I do if I've signed a marriage contract with the elven princess' is a CN comic that is very CN in it's tropes and execution without being absolutely buried in dense cultivation or political tropes. It's a pretty good introduction if you want to see how CN output differs from KR and JP stuff. About a rando chef who thinks a lady she just met is being harassed by loansharks so signs the 'iou' to help her out. Except it's a royal marriage contract. Zany hijinx ensue, etc. On the Bilibili comics app or they also upload to mangadex a bit later.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited April 14
    Australia is pretty chonkers in landmass but everything else is itty bitty.
    It's also not an island.

    With some quick searching and zero effort to validate, Japan appears to be the 4th largest island nation in the world. So, you know. "Small."

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Watched the first episode of S3 of Kaguya.

    This is still so goddamn funny.

    Also Ishigami continues to the best. (In a series full of really good characters.)

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 14
    Also for reference the distance between the northern coast of Hokkaido and the southern coast of Kyushu is analogous to the distance between Maine and Florida.

    So, y'know, "small."

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
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