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  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    i am torn between

    A) not reading new berserk so as not to destroy the weird, messy content-ness i feel about the way it cut off? There's a part of me that looks at the last Miura chapter and just thinks "yeah, that's life".

    B) reading new berserk because i gotta know

    C) not reading new berserk because oh god i don't want to know

    and D) not reading new berserk for a while, so i can feel the sheer novelty of having a sizeable berserk backlog for the first time in my adult life

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    LycoReco 7
    Cop: "Excuse me. You and your forty thug friends holding toy assault rifles shouldn't bring them to the police station. BWAAAGH! They're actually real guns!"

    Later

    Evil Dude: "Bwa ha ha. Our evil plan to shoot up a police station and leave a giant grafitti warning for Lycoris, knowing they'd cover it up, was a success. And they left a computer on with our USB plugged in, so we've hacked them too!"

    Frankly, the people in this world are too stupid to be alive.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Question for the thread -- just going to start on a new series with my kids (15 and 12), and current top three options are:

    1. Jojo. Older kid's read them all, so he knows what he's in for and he reckons younger kid would be okay with it as well based on their shared viewing experiences. Pros: colourful and fun, lots of it, it's Jojo; cons: there's going to be some pretty rough bits along the way, yikes; not sure if we should skip straight to Stardust Crusaders or watch it all.

    2. Evangelion. None of us know what happens there; I've managed to remain unspoiled (other than, unavoidably, 'get in the mech shinji', roughly speaking "the dad is bad", and something about the ending being confusing?). Pros: finally makes me immune to spoilers, is Big Cultural Thing; cons: is it actually good, or just Important? Do we then need to watch all the movies-with-numbers-in-their-names as well?

    3. Attack on Titan. Again, I don't know what happens there beyond 'giants attack people'. Pros: younger kid's had it recommended by friends and is curious, I guess it's probably pretty good given how long it's been going? Cons: I have some vague sense that there's problematic things in there but I could be confusing it with something else (and honestly I suspect we may well just not notice unless it's very obvious, we are not particularly perceptive viewers). Also doesn't look like it's finished yet, so there's the risk of a disappointing ending.

    Thoughts? (other stuff we've been watching recently isn't super relevant -- we just went through Spy x Family and Love Is War, last season we watched Eizouken and Bofuri, none of which are remotely similar to these ones) How confusing would it be to watch all three and cycle through episodes the same way we've been doing with other shows that we watched as they released? (I mean, I'm probably not going to confuse the plot of Jojo with Evangelion, but do any of these ones need special amounts of attention to not get lost?)

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I don't think I'd recommend any of those shows for that age range, but Eva would probably be the worst idea. Parts of it are good, but it's definitely more of an Important show at this point.

    Jojo definitely has a bunch of gross stuff in it, but if one of them has already experienced it then it's probably the safest choice. For stuff you'd learn about in Attack on Titan by the first episode:
    The giants don't just attack people, they tend to eat people alive. Complete with body parts flying everywhere.

    Later on it apparently gets way more complicated and overtly political, and I'm not sure where the general opinion settled on that part of it.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I know nothing about kids but those all seem like not great kids series

    I mean I watched tons of gory shit younger than that, but again I don't know shit about how kids work

    Jojo is for sure gonna be the most approachable thing there though

    Early on AoT too, but that series crawls all the way up it's own ass, and back out it's mouth just so it can loop around back up it's ass again. Watching giant naked babies eating people is way more entertaining than whatever the fuck Japan/Korea analogue story it wants to get into later

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Attack on Titan makes a really obvious holocaust reference and then somehow makes its Jewish stand-ins the villains and the root cause of all the wars and violence that ever happened. Also super pro military themes with a character based on a real life criminal being held up as one of the most honorable and just person in the government.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    1 - I'm not that knowledgeable about jojo but it's probably fine? Like there's some bad stuff where you as a parent are gonna be like aww shit I don't want my kids watching this but the kids will probably just be like, "lol cool that dude blew up" and be fine.

    2 - Except for the "hey cool robot" factor I don't think even a 15 year old is really gonna get, like, anything going on in Eva. Otoh the darkest themes will probably fly right over their heads too. Probably fine as long as you don't go anywhere near the End of Evangelion movie, which has some pretty horrible stuff in it.

    3 - Attack on Titan seems way too dark for a 12 year old. It probably would've given little me nightmares. 15 year olds are little psychos, they might be just like "lol that dude just got ate" and enjoy it, plenty of other teens sure seem to. Not really what I'd be choosing to put in front of them personally tho.

    I dunno, probably better stuff for younger kids out there? But I'd prolly go for Jojo over the other two.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Evangelion does have some risque content, but I guess it's nothing a modern teen would shy away from, not like when Ranma 1/2 and Vampire Hunter D were my first exposures...

    I second that AoT would be far too disturbing.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    For kids 12-15, I'm going to recommend...

    Trigun
    Fullmetal Alchemist
    My Hero Academia

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Honestly if you watch Eva expecting cool robot then you will probably be disappointed. The robots themselves are cool and iconic but I can't really remember any of the actual fight scenes except for when they had to play DDR to learn a synchronized dance routine cause they had to kill 2 enemies at the same time.

    Jojo just has some body horror, lots of blood, and dead dogs.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maybe a Gundam series? I'm not a big Gundam guy, but maybe SEED or Iron-Blooded Orphans?

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Out of those options Jojo's is the easiest to recommend, but it's still pushing it for that age range so make sure you're comfortable with moments of graphic gore. There's other problematic bits but it'd probably slide over their heads

    Here's a video of pretty much all the most graphic stuff for you to gauge:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDlzBZveCs

    And if you do go for it, no don't jump to Stardust Crusaders. Honestly it's the weakest part on the whole. Yes it defines what becomes the standard Jojo's formula going forward, but while it's got high highs it's also got low lows with the worst pacing. Start from the start

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Don't show your kids Eva. It's Eva.

    Also don't show your kids AoT. I'm not an AoT expert but I think remember my roommate having an early episode on and there was a scene where (tw, very bad shit)
    a monster having sex with a dead woman's corpse.
    There's more immediate and obviously bad shit than problematic political metaphors in that show.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    ...I'm pretty sure that didn't happen in AoT.
    For one thing, Titans don't have genitals.

    but there's definitely a lot of people being graphically bitten in half and stuff

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    august wrote: »
    Don't show your kids Eva. It's Eva.

    Also don't show your kids AoT. I'm not an AoT expert but I think remember my roommate having an early episode on and there was a scene where (tw, very bad shit)
    a monster having sex with a dead woman's corpse.
    There's more immediate and obviously bad shit than problematic political metaphors in that show.

    no that doesn't happen it AoT. It's a pretty sexless show. Still not for kids.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Yeah you colossally misread whatever you think you saw cos its both impossible and didnt happen.

    Wouldnt recommend it anyway.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I stand corrected she must have been watching something else.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'd probably echo the recommendation of My Hero Academia if I had to pick something recent, but maybe y'all have already seen that.

    From the last shows you watched, you'd probably be better off aiming for more comedy/action stuff like that. Maybe Brand New Animal or Little Witch Academia?

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    My Hero Academia is tricky because it's 90% absolutely perfect for kids who want some charming action cartoonery

    otoh it has Mineta, who is like way worse than any amount of goofy action gore

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Actual if you think your kids will be ok with violence and body horror then FMA: Brotherhood might be a better choice then the above 3.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    My favorite anime at that age was stuff like Big O, Trigun, Hellsing, Dragonball Z, Cowboy Bebop. I'd probably have loved AoT as a kid though.

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    what would a young teen find cool as hell Vs what can one recommend in good conscious for a young teen are very different questions

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    That being said I watched FLCL at the exact right moment, whenever that was

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I think the right moment for FLCL is somewhere around 15-17

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maybe a Gundam series? I'm not a big Gundam guy, but maybe SEED or Iron-Blooded Orphans?

    Gundam Build Fighters might be good too.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I think the right moment for FLCL is somewhere around 15-17

    I definitely loved flcl as a teen.

    But then I also loved it a lot when I came back to it in like my late 20s, for very different reasons.

    There's a whoooole lot in FLCL that I didn't pick up on at all when I first watched it, for sure.

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  • SixshotStrikerSixshotStriker Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I have no experience with Jojo beyond memes, so I’ll defer to everyone else’s judgement on that. Eva I haven’t seen in at least a decade but what I do remember says probably not a good idea for 12 year old and iffy on 15. Attack on Titan is, in my opinion, a hard no. Very dark/graphic and the plot gets increasingly uncomfortable.

    FMA: Brotherhood is possible but again, violence and body horror do show up
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Maybe a Gundam series? I'm not a big Gundam guy, but maybe SEED or Iron-Blooded Orphans?

    Gundam Build Fighters might be good too.

    Iron Blooded Orphans, while very good in my opinion, is not a good series for the young. All the main characters are either kids or teenagers in combat and IBO smacks you (the viewer) in the face with the realization that these characters are child soldiers.

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  • KayuraKayura Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    G Gundam, the series that gave us Horse Gundam and Windmill Gundam, is quite enjoyable, and is reasonably safe for younger fans, I reckon.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I also saw 08th MS Team around when Toonami aired it and the kids TV edit wasn't awful while retaining the message pretty well.

    Tho I do prefer that first season of YuYu Hakusho where Yusuke was saying damn and shit all the time

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maybe a Gundam series? I'm not a big Gundam guy, but maybe SEED or Iron-Blooded Orphans?

    SEED's not bad, Destiny is bad. IBO has a good first season and then a worse second. 00 is pretty good throughout imo.

    Build Fighters isn't bad. First series is good, last series (Re:rise) is good, the ones in between less so. But I would say that they're generally series about Gundam, but not Gundam series (not a knock against them so much as them generally being less dark and not really having a theme of "War is horrible and awful what is wrong with you all")

    Edit: Oh yeah, IBO probably the least kid-friendly one I can think of. G Gundam is safe for kids, but it's also a super robot show (shouted attack names and everything - not that it's not still very much trying to tell a Gundam story. It does take a while for it to get there though because monster of the week is in full force for it, and just generally a different plot structure to other Gundam series).

    But as a whole, any main Gundam series is going to be darker because it takes war seriously and shit happens.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Seed IS bad IMO, in the usual pedestrian sense of bad. Destiny's really, REALLY bad.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I think Seed manages to be... average? It's still better than a lot of stuff, even if it leans way too hard into superhuman protagonist. 00 would my recommendation for a single series right now, as a matter of personal preference and that it sticks the landing. (Also, some of my favorite Gundam designs)

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  • KayuraKayura Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I also feel like G Gundam is a good setup for Gurren Lagann, down the line. In terms of tone and scale and suchlike.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    If you're going to watch Gundam it may as well be Wing. That's the most 'cool robots' one out of the series.

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  • CycloneCyclone Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Speaking from experience, showing someone Wing as their first Gundam series is a good way to turn them off the franchise altogether. 00 would be much more entertaining. War in the Pocket is also pretty good for first-time viewers, as it's short, in the UC timeline, and doesn't require a bunch of backstory.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    08th MS Team is short and sweet, that's definitely my recommendation.

    I probably would have loved LotGH when I was growing up, but that's pretty heavy for most kids. (And has random moments of serious gore, maybe the remake's not as bloody?)

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Mob Psycho 100 is a fantastic series and pretty suitable for kids

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! is a good one too, inspires a lot of creativity.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    08th MS Team is short and sweet, that's definitely my recommendation.

    I probably would have loved LotGH when I was growing up, but that's pretty heavy for most kids. (And has random moments of serious gore, maybe the remake's not as bloody?)


    Die Nue These (Not a remake, it's a new, closer to the books adaption) is not too bloody, but it's heavy. I think a young teen would enjoy it, but it really does not pull it's punches with stuff like police brutality, political corruption, and how much war fucking sucks. It's also politically complicated, which is one of it's strengths, but i dont know if it's themes of exploring the failures of democracy is going to be something that'll hit for a 12 and 15 year old.

    For Gundam - Kids would deffo enjoy Build Fighters and Re:Rise. Frankly, even though they're kinda badish, i think kids will enjoy Try Fighters and Build Divers, because most of what makes them bad is high concept plot issues and wasted potential that we adults like to grouse about. For pure light hearted cool robots, i think these are a great idea. Honestly, your biggest risk is your kids will want to buy Gunpala, in which case... Godspeed.

    00's is a solid recommendation too. Seed has a lot of bizzare "Suddenly, Boobs" in it's openings. I'm not even joking, it just randomly has nudity in it's opening because reasons? It's a thing. It's also just not great, honestly. Strictly okay.

    IBO would probably be okay, if dark for the 15 year old, but i would *not* recommend it for a 12 year - this is a show centered around child soldiers to a degree vastly more explict than any previous gundam, AND a show that does away with the usual beam weaponry, meaning you see a lot of mobile suits getting crushed, sliced, bashed, and other physical brutality. It also has all but explict child sexual abuse (as in it's made incredibly clear that that's what happened, the act it self is not depicted) at a couple of points, which may be more heavy than you want to discuss with your kids. Seems very likely that the show would cause nightmares for a 12 year old.

    Jojo... I think as long as you're willing to talk about stuff, including the ooofs - like the second season's handling of the nazi character, or Jojo's shitty behaviour towards his mother in Stardust crusaders, this could be okay. It's defintely not light and fluffy. May talk mroe with your eldest and get a feel for why he thinks it'll work for the 12 year old, @djmitchella

    Absolutely would not recommend Evangelion. It's.. a mess, it's a product of the writer having serious depresson issues, and again, it's a mess.

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