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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The OG Gundam holds up pretty well imo.

    Speaking of, they recently released an OVA of Cucuruz Doan's Island, as a full length movie rather than the 20 odd minutes it got in the original. It's real fucking good! Just a really enjoyable extended dive on what was a short episode.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    some of the deconstructed tropes match up in the broadest sense but there was very little super robot genre or ultraman to go in with expectations from like "every week a giant alien shows up to wreck stuff and the hero from the secret science organization uses their super robot to make them explode after a cool kick or beam or something"

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    some of the deconstructed tropes match up in the broadest sense but there was very little super robot genre or ultraman to go in with expectations from like "every week a giant alien shows up to wreck stuff and the hero from the secret science organization uses their super robot to make them explode after a cool kick or beam or something"

    The OG shows (that feature kid heroes) seem to treat saving the city with your Super Robot as an after school job, in terms of importance. Since Eva, the life or death stakes have been re-emphasized, which is what makes something that very deliberately throws to the old school stakes like the two SSSS shows interesting.

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  • WearingGlassesWearingGlasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Why's SEED bad again? Sure it's not as great as the others, but it felt like an ok "Baby's first Gundam" nowadays. Unless 00 has taken over that role?

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I like Seed (Destiny not so much), but it's kind of a superhero show wearing the skin of a realistic robot war show. 00 is much better at doing most of the things Seed seemed to want to do.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Why's SEED bad again? Sure it's not as great as the others, but it felt like an ok "Baby's first Gundam" nowadays. Unless 00 has taken over that role?

    SEED is passable, Destiny is a pile (too many recap episodes, plot went in a direction that shat all over the new cast, Jesus Yamato).

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    To be fair, it's never a bad idea to shit on Shinn Asuka.
    Arthrun had to put up with that little shite and I'm glad he was the one who smacked him down .

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Reynolds wrote: »
    As I always say, I'd love to watch the show Evangelion is pretending to be at first, or even what it starts to reveal it might be around halfway through, it's just a shame what it actually is and has become since is incredibly shit. Very pretty animation and great music though!

    If you want to know what shows Evangelion is cribbing from, watch Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Space Battleship Yamato, and any show that Yoshiyuki Tomino was involved in from 1975 up until 1993.

    This is far from a complete list of influences for Anno, of course, but it's gonna get you the big beats.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Space Runaway Ideon and the original Mobile Suit Gundam (probably most of the Tomino-directed Gundam series) are big Eva influences from Tomino's work for sure

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Why's SEED bad again? Sure it's not as great as the others, but it felt like an ok "Baby's first Gundam" nowadays. Unless 00 has taken over that role?

    Jeddy's take is a good one, but also...

    One, it's trying to be a reboot of the original gundam while also updating it to the then and now that was 2004. This pulls it in all kinds of directions and it really just does not manage to thread the needle. It's also trying to have really serious conversations about genetic engineering and racism while also doing a lot of Wow! Cool Robots! that just undercuts the message. There's a lot, and I mean, a LOT of melodrama which gets in the way of the actually good drama. The bad guys on both sides tend to crash straight into "Straight up cackling evil" as well, while the protagnists are going "We should all be friends!".

    I'd say probably more than anything it's issue is you can see a ton of really good, strong ideas in it that it just struggles to execute with the level of examination that they really needed.

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  • neverreallyneverreally Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    SEED starts out really well with one of the best first episodes of all the gundams. Well, to be fair, Gundam is REALLY good at first episodes. They're all awesome. But in SEED, the power creep is absurd. The soap drama gets wildly annoying. I never finished it.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    My favorite Gundam is eureka seven

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  • neverreallyneverreally Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    My favorite Gundam is eureka seven

    another example of something I loved with COOL surf/skate life and being on magazines covers and raves and being famous for being good at skating, but then DRAMA. So much drama.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    as someone who watched the original gundam (and a lot of other gundams) in the 10-15 age range and was excited for seed when it premiered as the first 'new' gundam i'd seen, it was pretty disappointing to realise just how much of a rehash of 0079 it was trying to be (first by hitting the same plot beats and then just tossing in existing UC designs in the sequel series) with worse writing

    dropped it in the middle of its original run and didn't stick around to witness the trainwreck that was seed destiny

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    mobile suit gundam seed 🤝 eureka seven

    me losing interest and dropping the show after it introduces the ramba ral analogue

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    As I always say, I'd love to watch the show Evangelion is pretending to be at first, or even what it starts to reveal it might be around halfway through, it's just a shame what it actually is and has become since is incredibly shit. Very pretty animation and great music though!

    If you want to know what shows Evangelion is cribbing from, watch Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Space Battleship Yamato, and any show that Yoshiyuki Tomino was involved in from 1975 up until 1993.

    This is far from a complete list of influences for Anno, of course, but it's gonna get you the big beats.

    Right, I've seen these and know this. I'm saying I want to see the alternate universe version of Eva where it stuck to those inspirations and played everything straight, and there's no twist or deconstruction or hatred for the fans or etc.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Eva that played its genre straight would be so much less memorable
    still very pretty probably but not worth discussing like this 30 years later

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Skeith wrote: »
    Why's SEED bad again? Sure it's not as great as the others, but it felt like an ok "Baby's first Gundam" nowadays. Unless 00 has taken over that role?

    SEED is passable, Destiny is a pile (too many recap episodes, plot went in a direction that shat all over the new cast, Jesus Yamato).

    There's a reason why a lot of people prefer the Super Robot Wars franchise's take on SEED Destiny over the actual series. Hell, Shinn Asuka's Japanese VA apparently stated he preferred the SRW-Z versions of the plot and his character over the anime's.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    rhylith wrote: »
    I know some of y’all won’t agree with me, but a 15 year old is two years away from being able to walk into rated r movies all by himself with no input whatsoever from you.

    You are better off starting to watch more difficult content now while you can guarantee your presence and talk about more challenging themes with him so he doesn’t fall into wow cool robot hole.

    I wouldn’t pick attack on titan or Eva though unless they are getting recommended to them by their peers so you can make sure they understand what’s up with them. Jojo is fine.

    The 12 year old is a little young for the stuff you listed, and I echo the FMA rec with the family. Or FLCL yeah.

    Thanks for all the responses, folks! Picking this one in particular to respond to as one where I can explain more details.

    First off, reason for Attack On Titan showing up is that one of the younger kids friends has recommended it; reason for Evangelion is that older kid is curious about it. (and I'm curious about both of them myself, to be fair). Both of those sound skippable, or at least there's better alternatives. I know there's an awful lot of other good shows out there -- we watched One Punch Man already, and started on Mob Psycho 100 but sort of faded away from that one a few episodes in. Same thing with FMA -- though in both cases, the kids had already read the manga so they knew what the story was going to be and weren't quite keen enough on seeing it animated to want to stick through it.

    The Big Name stuff (MHA, One Piece, Naruto, Dragon Ball, etc) have one major problem, that there's too much of them. Younger kid has read through all of One Piece (and multiple times, too, so I constantly disappoint him when he says "hey dad what do you think is the deal with [the devil fruit of obscure character X from Impel Down or something]" and I just can't remember what he's talking about), and Naruto, and Dragon Ball, but also knows the pacing issues with trying to _watch_ those. MHA just never really caught on around here either way for some reason.

    I haven't watched any of the mecha series myself, so none of those ones came to mind for me -- the only one of those that I've heard them mention / be curious about is Gurren Lagann, and that's only because of something one of them saw about "biggest robots in anime".

    And as for "is it too old for them" -- they know what's real and what isn't real, my wife and I are trying pretty hard to get them to watch out for dubious elements in movies/etc. For context, they're currently doing a weekly movie-watch with the (same-aged) kids of one of our friends who's curating them through horror movies and have made their way from The Blob (1958) through Them! and will be heading on to Tremors and Alien, which I'm not particularly concerned about. Now, to be fair Jojo (at least the manga) does tend to have a particularly, uh, innovative ways of doing things to bodies, so I'll need to keep an eye out if we watch that one.

    All that said, someone recommended Cowboy Bebop, which is great but I'm also not sure if they'll like it; in lighter terms, one thing that I did forget exists that we've read is Laid-Back Camp, and we should get back to finishing off Azumanga Daioh, and there's also Silver Spoon to watch which we've read and enjoyed.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Huh, Disney+ got the rights to the new season of Bleach

    Enjoy Disney buying and subsequently censoring a bunch of anime.. next time on dragon ball z!!!!

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Reynolds wrote: »
    As I always say, I'd love to watch the show Evangelion is pretending to be at first, or even what it starts to reveal it might be around halfway through, it's just a shame what it actually is and has become since is incredibly shit. Very pretty animation and great music though!
    But Reynolds, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann exists!

    Oh yeah, also, perfect show for a young teen, unless they really can't deal with a few episodes of Everything Is In The Shitter in the middle.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    The final chapter of Chihayafuru is Available, bringing it to a close after 15 years

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Mysst wrote: »
    Gurren Lagann absolutely has the biggest mecha

    Still not bigger than Gamagori

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Huh, Disney+ got the rights to the new season of Bleach

    Enjoy Disney buying and subsequently censoring a bunch of anime.. next time on dragon ball z!!!!

    Still waiting for them to do something with the anime they licensed this season in the US.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    akajaybay wrote: »
    Huh, Disney+ got the rights to the new season of Bleach

    Enjoy Disney buying and subsequently censoring a bunch of anime.. next time on dragon ball z!!!!

    Still waiting for them to do something with the anime they licensed this season in the US.

    They'll get to Summer Time Render someday!

    ...I genuinely think they somehow licensed it without realizing it was a bloody action show. Haven't looked at the DVD/Blu-Ray releases to see if they rolled back the (welcome) censorship to the manga levels either, so could be that too.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Mysst wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Gurren Lagann absolutely has the biggest mecha

    Still not bigger than Gamagori

    Depends on if it's funny or not

    The idea of a galaxy-spanning super robot being dwarfed by some angry guy is inherently funny

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    God, it's incredible how committed Dungeon Meshi is to the bit. No matter the situation, no matter the stakes, it is somehow always still about food or eating.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    cB557 wrote: »
    God, it's incredible how committed Dungeon Meshi is to the bit. No matter the situation, no matter the stakes, it is somehow always still about food or eating.

    When all you have is a fork...

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy at All is playing with some interesting themes, I hope they don't end up messing up the ending. Its a twitter series so who knows how long it'll go.
    "Oh I didn't realize this pretty boy that I'm crushing on is actually a girl" is a pretty common trope (or less commonly vice versa) but this series seems a bit more purposeful with it than others. Mitsuki wouldn't flirt with a girl, but once she's been mistaken for a guy she plays along and flirts back, and then is surprised at how into the flirting she is. And Aya meanwhile seems to have some big suspicions, but as long as she refuses to think about it and just treats Mitsuki as a guy then she isn't crushing on a girl.

    So it feels less like a wacky misunderstanding and more of like a couple of teens safely exploring their same sex attractions without yet having to admit that that's what they're doing or having to come out to anyone yet
    .

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Dandadan 69:

    https://youtu.be/0l__jSgTAmQ

    Yes, I am 100% here for this. This music still slaps so many years later.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    cB557 wrote: »
    God, it's incredible how committed Dungeon Meshi is to the bit. No matter the situation, no matter the stakes, it is somehow always still about food or eating.

    It works though! Ecosystems are fundmentally built around how energy moves through them, and for most things, that's by getting your omnomnomnom on. A lot of dungeon meshi is just let's take a dnd dungeon and examine it throguh a serious science lense - of course everything revolves around eating.

    Om nom nom nom.

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  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Jragghen wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/gallery/woclms

    For folks curious about new Berserk, here's a comparison of the artwork between the two (minor spoilers for at least one character's appearance in the latest chapters). Worth noting that only digital format is available for the new stuff so far, and when in print the contrast will likely be turned up (some of the newer artwork looks kinda washed out in comparison, particularly the Casca panel).

    So yeah - there's definitely a slight dip in quality, but if they can keep up monthly releases, I'd say it's a more than acceptable one.
    personally i'm a lot more worried about the writing holding up than the art, is the thing

    (this isn't me saying the new writing is bad, i have not read it yet)

    though i mean, i feel like they already missed the easiest layup in the world by not making the first chapter back a "hey what's Rickert up to?" chapter

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
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    Daypigeon wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/gallery/woclms

    For folks curious about new Berserk, here's a comparison of the artwork between the two (minor spoilers for at least one character's appearance in the latest chapters). Worth noting that only digital format is available for the new stuff so far, and when in print the contrast will likely be turned up (some of the newer artwork looks kinda washed out in comparison, particularly the Casca panel).

    So yeah - there's definitely a slight dip in quality, but if they can keep up monthly releases, I'd say it's a more than acceptable one.
    personally i'm a lot more worried about the writing holding up than the art, is the thing

    (this isn't me saying the new writing is bad, i have not read it yet)

    though i mean, i feel like they already missed the easiest layup in the world by not making the first chapter back a "hey what's Rickert up to?" chapter

    Supposedly they're working directly from the planned story beats as laid out by Miura to his best friend some time ago, so the lack of infuriating scene-changes is on him I guess.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 13
    Tonight was an evening of endings and beginnings at AniMenagerie.

    We concluded Rolling Girls, a show I don't think quite worked at the structural-level, narratively speaking. No shame against it or its fans, just didn't work for me.

    But you know what did work for me? The first episode of Golden Boy (dubbed).

    An episode that almost made me vomit due to laughter.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Kintaro Oe wrote:
    Some women are scary.

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