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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    The Pluto Sailor Moon channel is definitely live, they're up to the Zoisite arc of S1.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Speaking of anime fans at anime conventions.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    ASMR Takagi San says you smell and need to bathe

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    it's good advice

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    No anime has ever benefitted from translation to live action.

    Excuse me
    https://youtu.be/cyn6XYW2T64

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Heres the thing live action versions of anime can be severely hit or miss.

    Go Look at the live action Mob Psycho 100.
    Bad actors, no SFX budget, terrible scripts.

    Sentai generally gets a pass though since the wackiness is a feature not a bug

    Sentai, like Precure and Kamen Rider, have an enormous advantage, as the big three Toei shows, in that most things are handled by the same decades old crew, so there's a basic quality level that is kept constant. On live action in particular, as anybody that watched live action super hero shows the last decade or so can tell you, turns out that making action scenes, specially with super powers, that do not drop suspension of disbelief is hard.

    Random Twitter account with an example:

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Heres the thing live action versions of anime can be severely hit or miss.

    Go Look at the live action Mob Psycho 100.
    Bad actors, no SFX budget, terrible scripts.

    Sentai generally gets a pass though since the wackiness is a feature not a bug

    Sentai, like Precure and Kamen Rider, have an enormous advantage, as the big three Toei shows, in that most things are handled by the same decades old crew, so there's a basic quality level that is kept constant. On live action in particular, as anybody that watched live action super hero shows the last decade or so can tell you, turns out that making action scenes, specially with super powers, that do not drop suspension of disbelief is hard.

    Random Twitter account with an example:

    If memory serves, this one was directed by a long time Ultra director too, so also a lot of experience working at incorporating the two scales (Heisei and Reiwa ultra has gotten particularly good at working the two together)

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    And speaking of Ultra and how they pull things off:

    https://youtu.be/27TIwqjJBKE

    And the finished scene:

    https://youtu.be/bq2wNBJ_UMk


    These shows, the craft that goes into them, it’s just pure film magic

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I rather like Onimai. It's very much a story about being able to be better. To do better.

    Studio Bind is 2 for 2 as far as I'm concerned. They seem to have a type of story they like.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I rather like Onimai. It's very much a story about being able to be better. To do better.

    Studio Bind is 2 for 2 as far as I'm concerned. They seem to have a type of story they like.

    So Im Trans I get what its going for in that regard and it seems the main character eventually admits that much but like that first episode is not great.

    I get it.

    On the other hand the people who are basically degenerate neets that these shows are aimed at wouldn't notice it otherwise.

    You bait degenerates with degeneracy. Then drip feed them a message.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    There continues to be plenty of not great moments.

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I would actually really like onimai what with a lot of the gender themes, the concept of resetting your childhood and trying again, and healing crippling introvertion with friends and family.

    But goddamn does this writer feel the need to cram his fetish garbage into every episode and it just sours me every time it shows up.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'm looking forward to the train wreck that the Saint Seiya anime is going to be.

    I can't think of many great ways to adapt that without it just looking goofy.

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I was pleasantly surprised at how Blue Period handled a maybe trans character. I kept cringing waiting for the bad swing, but at least in what the anime got through it held up ok. The main character continually refuses to call her by the name she wants to go by and clearly doesn't get it. But over time realizes she's going through some heavy stuff and basically admits to not getting it, but also wants to be supportive and there to help and listen. I say maybe because I think I read the mangaka denied they were, and I'm not caught up on the manga. But my expectations were very low.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    akajaybay wrote: »
    I was pleasantly surprised at how Blue Period handled a maybe trans character. I kept cringing waiting for the bad swing, but at least in what the anime got through it held up ok. The main character continually refuses to call her by the name she wants to go by and clearly doesn't get it. But over time realizes she's going through some heavy stuff and basically admits to not getting it, but also wants to be supportive and there to help and listen. I say maybe because I think I read the mangaka denied they were, and I'm not caught up on the manga. But my expectations were very low.

    Regarding Yuka:
    I loved Yuka ever since her intro when we find out that the school dress code only thought to mandate that officially male students wear the jacket. So she grabs hold of that loophole and wears the boy's jacket with a skirt. Yatora is definitely a dick for not using her preferred name, but I think he mostly just seems confused - Yuka goes with a new feminine name and the skirt, but is also still using masculine pronouns.

    Later on in the manga (don't think the anime ever gets this far) Yuka and Yatora get a lot closer, and have some heart-to-hearts about, among other things, Yuka's gender identity. She's switching to using feminine pronouns, but she still identifies as basically gender queer, trying to decide if she's trans or a femme gay man or what. She talks to Yatora about how figuring out her gender identity has been a lifelong, ongoing struggle for her, and there's also a couple of pretty dark chapters about her home life and the abuse she faces because of her refusal to fit into a cis-male gender role.

    The manga's always been tremendously empathetic to her as a character, I think if the author has pushed back on labeling at all it's more in that sense of "plz don't label her when she's still trying to figure it out herself." But it's most definitely not in the "lol nono all these queer themes are definitely not queer they're just adolescence!" way that we still run into sometimes.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Kana wrote: »
    akajaybay wrote: »
    I was pleasantly surprised at how Blue Period handled a maybe trans character. I kept cringing waiting for the bad swing, but at least in what the anime got through it held up ok. The main character continually refuses to call her by the name she wants to go by and clearly doesn't get it. But over time realizes she's going through some heavy stuff and basically admits to not getting it, but also wants to be supportive and there to help and listen. I say maybe because I think I read the mangaka denied they were, and I'm not caught up on the manga. But my expectations were very low.

    Regarding Yuka:
    I loved Yuka ever since her intro when we find out that the school dress code only thought to mandate that officially male students wear the jacket. So she grabs hold of that loophole and wears the boy's jacket with a skirt. Yatora is definitely a dick for not using her preferred name, but I think he mostly just seems confused - Yuka goes with a new feminine name and the skirt, but is also still using masculine pronouns.

    Later on in the manga (don't think the anime ever gets this far) Yuka and Yatora get a lot closer, and have some heart-to-hearts about, among other things, Yuka's gender identity. She's switching to using feminine pronouns, but she still identifies as basically gender queer, trying to decide if she's trans or a femme gay man or what. She talks to Yatora about how figuring out her gender identity has been a lifelong, ongoing struggle for her, and there's also a couple of pretty dark chapters about her home life and the abuse she faces because of her refusal to fit into a cis-male gender role.

    The manga's always been tremendously empathetic to her as a character, I think if the author has pushed back on labeling at all it's more in that sense of "plz don't label her when she's still trying to figure it out herself." But it's most definitely not in the "lol nono all these queer themes are definitely not queer they're just adolescence!" way that we still run into sometimes.

    The nude self painting arc is in the anime and it's very well done.

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    The anime definitely felt like a bit of a speedrun of the manga (Re: Blue Period). I'd only read the first couple of volumes and the anime blew past them.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I read a bit of the onimai manga several years ago and while I didn't get too far it seemed pretty fetishistic to me. (Hence why I dropped it.)

    Maybe the anime toned that down I dunno. *shrug*

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gundi wrote: »
    I read a bit of the onimai manga several years ago and while I didn't get too far it seemed pretty fetishistic to me. (Hence why I dropped it.)

    Maybe the anime toned that down I dunno. *shrug*

    By all accounts it toned it up.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Yeeeah. I dunno about this one, my peeps. I mean, I checked out of the show after an episode, but to me, it's like saying Queen's Blade is about female empowerment because it's all strong fighting women. Even just the premise of forcibly changing someone's gender against their will because YOU think that'll fix them I'd think would be... fraught.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Oh in less iffy news I read the fist few chapters of Throw Away The Suit Together and it's... good!

    The premise is a lesbian couple of two college grads are now job hunting and it's making them miserable. One thing leads to another and they make the impulsive decision to move to Okinawa to get away from everything. With a premise like that you might expect drama but so far it has been very cute, pure gay wish fulfillment. (For example chapter 2 ends with one of them shouting over the island of Okinawa "I'm gonna marry this woman!" Then the other tells her-suprisingly chill-aunt about how she's eloped to Okinawa with her fiance and the former lets the two of them bum out in her unused beach condo for the time being.)

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13


    So this series is pretty promising. It's got some similar vibes to Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man. From the first six chapters I think I like it a little more than what I've read of JJK, not as much as CSM.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Oh did that get picked up officially? I remember there being a lot of buzz about the one shot.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    For all... Uh, one person waiting on the AoT finale, it's not on anything and it's already finished airing.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I was kidding, but I guess I am the only one who cares. :lol:

    It's on CR and Hulu now.

    https://www.crunchyroll.com/watch/G8WUNMMMW/attack-on-titan-final-season-the-final-chapters-special-1

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I stopped caring when it stopped being about giant naked weirdos eating people and instead was about how Japan should totally remilitarize

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    That was wild. Kind of sad I couldn't catch that in a theater, good lord.

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  • arthurinscalesarthurinscales Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I stopped caring when it stopped being about giant naked weirdos eating people and instead was about how Japan should totally remilitarize

    i mean, back when it was just giant naked weirdos eating ppl there was the worry that the giants were a metaphor for invading immigrants

    and well

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    asofyeun wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I stopped caring when it stopped being about giant naked weirdos eating people and instead was about how Japan should totally remilitarize

    i mean, back when it was just giant naked weirdos eating ppl there was the worry that the giants were a metaphor for invading immigrants

    and well

    More to the point, the main plot became less about giants eating people and more about its questionable politics

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 13

    Kay Yu has worked on some high profile anime and games. That amount is... yeesh.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I stopped caring when it stopped being about giant naked weirdos eating people and instead was about how Japan should totally remilitarize
    I still think this is a really bad reading of the text unless there's some author comments I don't know about.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gundi wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I stopped caring when it stopped being about giant naked weirdos eating people and instead was about how Japan should totally remilitarize
    I still think this is a really bad reading of the text unless there's some author comments I don't know about.

    Specifically, the author had a burner Twitter account they used before writing the manga to basically do a little playful revisionist history and say the Japanese occupation of Korea basically wasn't that bad and that 'comparing them to Nazis is wrong.' There's enough meat on the bones to say that the ending of AoT
    can be interpreted as criticism or actually being in support of imperialism and remilitarization. There is not so small portion of alt right folks in Japan who believe this stuff, history books have already been changed much like in the US, to whitewash away warcrimes specifically against Korea. End of the day the work is critical of the cyclical nature of war but I think you can absolutely read it's ending that way. Revisionist history actually plays a huge role in the story of AoT. Specifically with King Fritz and his sex slave wife, you can unfortunately draw some real fucked up parallels with how some Japanese feel about what they did to Korea and China.

    In the end, I think everyone agrees the ending of AoT is baffling and frankly disappointing as hell. What a way to squander an excellent chance to really make a statement on the horrors of war, and instead use it to soapbox for some alt right ideals

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  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    back in the day internet detectives found an anonymous twitter account that could've been the author (iirc basically all the evidence was plausible but also, could've about just as reasonably been someone in the same social or work circles) that appeared to have bought into revisionist history bullshit about how, actually, imperial japan had improved things for korea if you really think about it (deeply brainless, gross)

    i think the actual reporting around that was largely pretty, uh, dogshit in a way that clarified nothing and in fact made things more confusing, but also y'know. Sometimes the Vibes Are Bad

    personally my read is just that Isayama is a very bad writer who managed to stumble into basically every possible pothole once he actually had to start resolving and revealing things, sometimes getting weird and bad force multipliers from the way individual bad decisions interacted with each other (blatant, subtlety-free historical analogues x bioware-ass "in the past this group was the oppressor but now they're the oppressed, makes u think" type writing hits worse than either on their own, for example). He might be an ultraconservative dipshit but imo comes off as more just fucking terrible at making an uninteresting, nihilistic point. wet fart of a storyteller.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'm really not a subtext kind of person, it being the cowards way, but when you start putting armbands on people I'm going to give your thing the weirdest of looks.

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 13
    I just actively made the decision to not watch Attack on Titan, because I sometimes manage to stop myself watching bad anime

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    It's a lot of speculative interpretation surrounding a story that isn't sure what it wants to say and in the end isn't particularly well told.

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