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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gundi wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    asofyeun wrote: »
    on the other hand, my expectations for how some anime/manga handle relationships is pretty low, and when i was first reading chainsaw man i didn't know if the author was just into that or if there were other reasons for why she spoke to denji that way

    i mean let's be clear the author is also very clearly into that too

    "Love a woman who can kick my ass."
    - Cowboy Bebop
    To paraphrase the author:
    "When I was in college a girl on a bike made me fall over as she was riding by. She then came back around on her bike to laugh at me. I was very happy."

    I wonder if this also explains the outbreak of smug, one-fanged gremlins bullying the title character a few years ago. Nagatoro and...Uzaki I think was the name are two prominent ones that come to mind

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Latest Komi-san (chapter 394) feels like an issue of, if anything, Kaiji? I'll admit, I pretty much skipped all the "if they do X then I have to do Y but they know I'll have to do Y so then they'll do Z unless they guess that I know they're going to do X so . . . " stuff, I can never keep up with it.

    Sort-of-related thing that I've been wondering about for a while -- having read Kaiji, I now spot references to it in a bunch of other places, be it just 'zawa zawa' as a sound effect, or 'the Kaiji nose' (you know what I mean), or most recently I read something where they talked about earning 'perica', etc.

    But I've seen _way_ more references to the last panel of Ashita No Joe, the "draw the character, but they're sitting slumped in a chair turned to white ash because they're (really tired/etc)" scene seems to show up all the time.

    So, question -- what other super-common references are out there? Those two are the ones I can think of that I've seen a lot; I'm sure there's other ones that I'm just not seeing because I've not read the original, or am just not noticing things because I'm not paying enough attention.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Jump's lineup is dire compared to the Golden Age of Jump during the Big 3's reign.

    It seems like Ginka and Gluna is ending which is a shame but yeah nothing new these last few months seems like it will stick( though a few might lead to better stuff )

    Wait it is? Fuck I was enjoying it a lot, no wonder the last boss looking motherfucker just showed up out if nowhere and we faded out and back in to post everyone getting their shit wrecked.

    Something is deeply diseased in shonen jump. They can't let anything run more than few months unless it is a megasuperultrahit.

    Yeah thats always a huge clue to me. Id be happy to be wrong but I doubt it

    They need to realize their shitty poll system is harmful to creators and people outside of Japan might like a story more than their insular otaku base

    Their insular Otaku base are the ones they make the most money from though.

    Dont get me started on Japan's fucked up pricing structures

    It's more a problem that we're seeing in Western comics and other media as well - creators pander to an insular, toxic base, arguing that "they pay the bills!" while ignoring that if they would stop pandering to the geese, there is a much larger base they could make so much more money off of.

    Following up my previous comment, the other reason I think manga exploded over here, beyond just the insular and toxic western comic fanbase... Is that generally, if you wanna read a series?

    You just pick up the fucking series. I can tell someone go read FMA, or Delicious in Dungeon or whatever. I don't need to give them a bloody guide to which chapter to read when, or warn them that their favorite character ended up in the hands of a writer with a hate on for them.

    Marvel and DC comics have a lot of cool stuff, and there's some excellent comics being published under their umbrella, but it has to be said the whole publishing model is insane and actively consumer hostile.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    the superhero comic obsession with shared continuity and crossovers makes them incredibly arcane and unapproachable for new readers yeah

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Macross Delta might be the most disappointing anime I've ever watched, or at least the biggest nosedive in quality after possibly my favorite episode one of all time.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Mangaka tend to only get one or two chances.

    Trying to tell someone to gamble their livelihood on expanding a base that might not then exist is kind of crap? If you have an audience, keep it. Most attempts by products to reach 'New consumers' tend to fail spectacularly! You piss off your base and then no one new picks up the slack so your once promising future is now dead. Woo.


    There are plenty of smaller authors trying stuff in the doujin space or whatever that you can find whatever you want.



    Anywho, someone asking about comedy and no Gintama mention? Shocked. Damn amazing series.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Speaking of Ginka and Glüna, given the latest chapter…

    just what the fuck is Ginka?
    So I went back and skimmed the earlier chapters, and a few things we note:
    - a patterned shard of Ginka’s body was recovered and used to reanimate a 300-years-dead dragon
    - Ginka’s body has been depicted in two ways: The patterned shards, and the, primarily, Elemental Ginkas that are apparently born from those pieces coming together

    Magaraka is said to be using Ginka’s body, but noting that it isn’t actually complete, and while not a 100% match, it does correspond to the “SECRET” Ginka listed among the Elemental Ginkas.

    Excerpts of the relevant bits about Ginka’s body:
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    We know from the recent chapter that the deal with Magaraka is that he sought to obtain the moon of Verokia in order to obtain the power to continue living, and it would appear now that he certainly seems to have an immortal one (it certainly survived Ginka knocking the head off, then reattaching with no harm seemingly done to it), and we know that the Royal Family of Verokia released the moon from its orbit rather than to let it fall in the hands of Magaraka…

    But then, how does Magaraka have a seemingly immortal, if incomplete, body? And why are these shards we’ve seen before referred to being shards of his body?

    With all of that then, and the absolute power we’ve seen Ginka demonstrate so far, it feels like the answer we are being pointed towards is… Ginka is the Moon of Verokia, a vast, magical construct that has a will and mind of his own. It would explain the shattered, patterned fragments, the way they seek to come back together, and the fact that he’s so specifically skilled and teaching Glüna Verokian magic. It might even reflect that what Magaraka meaning that he hasn’t been able to taste the moon yet being that, with the body incomplete, that he hasn’t yet had a taste of the true power that it holds. Could it be then that Ginka’s body that Magaraka is using is effectively an avatar or incarnation of the larger Moon of Verokia?

    The main discrepancies being the timeline: when was the fall of Verokia? What has Ginka been doing since then since it’s implied that Verokia is a fairly ancient kingdom. And what does this mean about Magaraka’s attempt to take the moon for himself? I suppose its feasible that perhaps that was merely the first attempt, given that he implies he can body hop at will when he looks at Glüna during the fight, so perhaps he failed at taking the Moon and jumped into someone else’s body to preserve himself until he could try again, and the at some point the Moon incarnated in the form of Ginka (and, perhaps, the rest was shattered across the globe, leading to the fragments?) and then sometime ten years prior Ginka and Magaraka met again leading to Magaraka taking Ginka’s human body for himself while the rest of him was left to reform into the various Elemental Ginkas?

    EDIT: okay few more going back further:
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    So at the very least, Magaraka and Ginka fought about ten years back, with Magaraka stealing his body. We know from the rest of this that the body however is incomplete, though not whether or not he stole an incomplete body or that it broke during/after Ginka’s attempt to stay alive after he was body jacked by him.

    Though now that raises the question: What is Magaraka present resurrection or revival then, if he managed to steal Ginka’s body 10 years ago? What happened that he’d need to be revived after seemingly securing Ginka’s body in that battle?

    EDIT: oh wow okay somehow I didn’t notice before: I thought those were tattoos or some other kind of marking all over Magaraka-in-Ginka, but looking more carefully they’re the missing chunks (check the edges of his forearm and his left knee and it’s more clear)


    Hopefully maybe that’s not a sign we’re rushing Toward the ending, but it does feel like maybe there’s pressure to pick up the pace and tension in the main plot; with the recent bit I could see the plot getting a fire lit under it with
    now there’s competition to recover Ginka’s missing pieces; before it was kind of a lackadaisical pace where they could kind of do these somewhat disconnected little arcs and then they collect a shard or elemental Ginka at the end, or take some time to explore the world more without too much pressure to find and restore him…

    Now with Magaraka on the scene, you have a massive threat who also wants those pieces so he can have Ginka’s power, the very thing Ginka has sworn he won’t allow anyone else to wield

    It definitely feels rushed thanks to how hard Nosferatu has kind of jobbed to set up the new reveals, but maybe that’s just badly shifting gears under editor mandates rather than gearing to wrap things up

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  • WearingGlassesWearingGlasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Latest Komi-san (chapter 394) feels like an issue of, if anything, Kaiji? I'll admit, I pretty much skipped all the "if they do X then I have to do Y but they know I'll have to do Y so then they'll do Z unless they guess that I know they're going to do X so . . . " stuff, I can never keep up with it.

    Sort-of-related thing that I've been wondering about for a while -- having read Kaiji, I now spot references to it in a bunch of other places, be it just 'zawa zawa' as a sound effect, or 'the Kaiji nose' (you know what I mean), or most recently I read something where they talked about earning 'perica', etc.

    But I've seen _way_ more references to the last panel of Ashita No Joe, the "draw the character, but they're sitting slumped in a chair turned to white ash because they're (really tired/etc)" scene seems to show up all the time.

    So, question -- what other super-common references are out there? Those two are the ones I can think of that I've seen a lot; I'm sure there's other ones that I'm just not seeing because I've not read the original, or am just not noticing things because I'm not paying enough attention.

    - The Yamcha pose
    - A reference to the four excited gaijin
    - A menacing Jojo reference

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    On good news, apparently Light Novel ratings in Japan for the last two years or so had isekai do a free fall besides established titles and some of the female protagonist stuff.

    Given anime production times, this year is likely the tail end of the isekai boom. Yay!

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    On good news, apparently Light Novel ratings in Japan for the last two years or so had isekai do a free fall besides established titles and some of the female protagonist stuff.

    Given anime production times, this year is likely the tail end of the isekai boom. Yay!

    what's next in the cycle

    zombies? mummies? robots? food trucks?

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'm sure whatever gets settled on there will still be a vehicle for wish fulfillment, just in different shades to reflect the changing times and mores.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'm sure whatever gets settled on there will still be a vehicle for wish fulfillment, just in different shades to reflect the changing times and mores.

    aaah

    home ownership

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    On good news, apparently Light Novel ratings in Japan for the last two years or so had isekai do a free fall besides established titles and some of the female protagonist stuff.

    Given anime production times, this year is likely the tail end of the isekai boom. Yay!

    I already made the mistake of looking at next season's lineup, and there's still well into the double digits. So it ain't over yet. Not by a long shot.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    It doesn't help that the line between isekai and generic fantasy is fairly blurred these days. A lot of times it doesn't even matter than the isekai character is reincarnated or portaled.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I always love when a series is like "Oh they reincarnated from our world", and then just almost never bothers referencing it again.

    Looking at you, Faraway Paladin!

    I actually do really like Faraway Paladin, it's just kind of funny that it feels like they had to slip it through the door by pretending it was an isekai

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    That's like, most of the Isekai this season. It's weird that Isekai has gotten to the point where the premise is just shorthand

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Gundi wrote: »
    asofyeun wrote: »
    on the other hand, my expectations for how some anime/manga handle relationships is pretty low, and when i was first reading chainsaw man i didn't know if the author was just into that or if there were other reasons for why she spoke to denji that way

    i mean let's be clear the author is also very clearly into that too
    I like bossy, unreasonable women.
    When I was in Uni, there was a girl who was mean to me.
    One day my bike was turned over at uni.
    I was confused and the girl came to me saying, "I turned your bike over haha!"
    At that moment, I thought how happy I am.
    "Jokes on you. I am into that shit"

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Sad news; it’s being reported that Takahiro Kimura, longtime character designer for Sunrise, has passed away after a battle with amyloidosis

    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-03-09/code-geass-gaogaigar-character-designer-takahiro-kimura-passes-away/.195750

    You’d remember his work from G Gundam, GaoGaiGar, Betterman and more, as well as adapting CLAMP’s designs for production in Code Geass

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I always love when a series is like "Oh they reincarnated from our world", and then just almost never bothers referencing it again.

    Looking at you, Faraway Paladin!

    I actually do really like Faraway Paladin, it's just kind of funny that it feels like they had to slip it through the door by pretending it was an isekai

    it's weird, because I think the only actual impacts him being reincarnated has are...
    1. him trying to live a noble life where he actually does good, because he feels like he wasted away his life on Earth;
    2. him being a precocious child growing up;
    3. him being a champion of the goddess of reincarnation.
    Like, that's it. And the first could just as well just be because his undead foster family raised him well, the second point could just be a personality trait, and the third point could just as well be a natural response to his first major antagonist being the god of undeath.

    It doesn't even add a fish-out-of-water element where he needs everything explained to him, because he was raised out in the booneys anyway and got a pretty thorough academic upbringing from an archmage. His main issue is just having his knowledge be some hundred years outdated. He knows just as much as a non-isekai'd person would know if put in his position.


    I'm reading that High Elf Slow Life manga at the moment, and it's somehow got an isekai that's even less relevant than Faraway Paladin. I think the only impact him being reincarnated has had is that he actually left the forest unlike all the other high elves?

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  • HellboreHellbore A bad, bad man Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    That's like, most of the Isekai this season. It's weird that Isekai has gotten to the point where the premise is just shorthand

    Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady does this and near as I can tell it's just so the main character can want to fly on a broom

    Even better, according to the author,
    Anis isn't reincarnated at all, she just received knowledge of "the modern world" through unspecified means and never lived another life.

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited April 13


    Witch from Mercury Cour 2 trailer, first half is a recap (spoilers for the end of cour 1 just FYI if anyone is holding out), new footage starts at 50 seconds in.

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Random Attack on Titan question

    Episode 65
    In the carriage ride on the way to give a speech about King Fritz, Willy Tyber and General Magath have a conversation about the likelihood that Tyber will be attacked by Paradis during the speech. This ends up being true when Eren does indeed transform beneath the platform, killing Willy and many others.

    It sounds like they not only knew about the possibility of an attack, but were deliberately baiting one - with Willy as the bait. I don't understand why they were doing that.

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    RT800 wrote: »
    Random Attack on Titan question

    Episode 65
    In the carriage ride on the way to give a speech about King Fritz, Willy Tyber and General Magath have a conversation about the likelihood that Tyber will be attacked by Paradis during the speech. This ends up being true when Eren does indeed transform beneath the platform, killing Willy and many others.

    It sounds like they not only knew about the possibility of an attack, but were deliberately baiting one - with Willy as the bait. I don't understand why they were doing that.

    it's been a bit so I don't fully recall but
    I think because it would give greater justification for their planned invasion. A lot easier to unite the world against the Island Devils if the devils attacked first. They definitely underestimated the effectiveness of the attack though.

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  • ElaroElaro Who am I? What do I want?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Oh thank goodness, someone else finds it strange.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weytOCVI_iA&t=166s

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I always love when a series is like "Oh they reincarnated from our world", and then just almost never bothers referencing it again.

    Looking at you, Faraway Paladin!

    I actually do really like Faraway Paladin, it's just kind of funny that it feels like they had to slip it through the door by pretending it was an isekai

    There's a manga I follow where it's technically not an isekai but does involve isekai. Basic premise is that there's a guy who was born with three souls inhabiting his body: his, a Japanese student's, and a famed general from the Warring States period of ancient Japan. The main one is the actual owner of the body and the other two are basically voices in the head, though he can cede control to one or the other temporarily. This means he can do things like have modern day knowledge of tech (but only so far as the Japanese student understands so nothing too advanced) and he uses it to make money with things like acquiring sugar without the very expensive sugar cane and producing intricate jewelry through the use of electrolysis to do gold plating.

    The story is focused entirely on the main character who was born in that world, so it's not an isekai, but the presence of those two other souls means it involves isekai as a concept.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Night Tempo, probably the most popular future funk artist, was hired by Pokemon Company to remix the original Japanese opening with the American song for their YouTube channel
    https://youtu.be/RtQALspc4uA

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Okay, Summer Time Rendering episode 18
    Did they seriously just reveal this dude is basically an immortal pedophile who has created a recursive incest loop to keep himself alive forever?

    Because that's the most messed up thing I've seen in a story in a while.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Okay, Summer Time Rendering episode 18
    Did they seriously just reveal this dude is basically an immortal pedophile who has created a recursive incest loop to keep himself alive forever?

    Because that's the most messed up thing I've seen in a story in a while.

    Don't forget how playing Final Fantasy 7 contributed to the evil plan. Might've just sunk into depression forever, except Square had to make Final Fantasy 7.
    I assume it's not meant to be taken as pedophilia, just the 'usual' Japanese questionableness over drawing children and saying "oh no, that's totally an immortal alien/god/spirit/book so it doesn't count," which was a pretty common trope in the VN days (eg Song of Saya, Demonbane, etc). I believe it's made explicit that they actually fell in love and were a fairly normal family until accidentally discovering the body-switching, at least in the manga, but that's still a can of worms. And I could be misremembering since I mostly skimmed it.

    That said, a lot of the writing around Shide is less than great, especially what he is and how his own abilities work. The story always plays fast and loose with the shadows, but it's mostly fairly consistent taken as a whole package by the end, at least to my own satisfaction for being able to explain things and close off the paradoxes and whatnot... except for him. Gotta handwave, like... a lot around his deal.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I had heard the title "Frieren at the Funeral" and thought that "Frieren" was an odd character name for a thing written in Japanese.

    It made a lot more sense after I started reading it and very quickly realized that all the character names are german words.

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Episode 400 of One Piece.

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Teenagers, probably.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Horny ovas sell a lotta dvds

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I think the most interesting paradigm shift for the series would for them to actually, gasp, become a couple.

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    Also, Nier: Automata V1.1a Ep 7, finally getting some A2 action!

    They did a great job recreating the castle, and I'm fine with being past it, because I hated that level.

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