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Yeah a lot of people forget that A-1 handled the majority of the script and such, and hoo boy can A-1 be a dumpster fire sometimes WRT adaptations or original content
I was reading Gokurakugai, and it struck me just how much care goes into drawing hands, they're just extremely detailed.
And I have a theory that it's entirely because the author is into women smoking.
morbid curiosity is gone
Anime why
I'm hoping this one succeeds, it's got a solid basic hook, an interesting world, and overall gorgeous art
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I'd say Spy X Family is a much better effort.
That's the joke that was making the rounds, yeah. The thing about Spy X Family, of course, is that it's a solid character-driven comedy with some genre trappings, and the familial appeal just naturally comes with the characters all being likable and being nice to each other.
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"Because Trigger."
"Ohhh, that makes sense."
^ Trigger is definitely not perfect but franxx was not their baby
sounds like a built in fanbase right there
It was weird enough and full of spectacle that I was interested in where the fuck it would all go. And everything bad bit of character writing, plot twist, or awful example of gender politics kind of made me chuckle in the sheer audacity of it. It also reminded me of those bizarro future 70s films with trippy/bad ideas of sexuality and birth like Logan's Run and Zardoz, so that added a little bit of kitsch factor for me.
When it got to the last episode with all the batshit stupid visuals and weird plot choices I just kind of cackled at it all. Almost reached a kind of "So bad it's almost watchable" level.
Don't forget that in the later half of the series they introduce a squad of antagonistic pilots who are coded as very androgynous and are able to pilot their mechs solo without partners. And the main characters are like "Wow, everything about them is so strange and unnatural!"
The difference is that Trigger-produced shows (which this isn't) tend to be aware of and lean into their inherent absurdity. While Darling feels like it's actually sincere about it's craziness, and thinks that they're being real clever and profound.
Also Gamaguri must be larger than everyone else on screen
As someone who has now watched about 75% of all Macross media (I missed most of original Macross, II and Zero, and most of the movies) I can now say with confidence: Macross is bad, actually.
The highs are high enough to keep people interested, but good lord are the lows low. Again, besides the music, I'd say roughly 3/4 of the entire franchise is terrible. Which is not how I was expecting to feel about it when I started this journey. I'm willing to bump it up to 50/50 good/bad as I'm assuming original Macross is pretty good (for its time). I should probably go back and finish it at some point, just to be sure.
You didn't like Plus or Frontier?
gamaguri gets jealous
Sounds like it's time to start Aquarion then.
It may not necessarily be good, but it's certainly unhinged.
Frontier is actually totally fine! Solid B+ show right there.
I've actually almost watched Aquarion a few times, maybe I should put it on the list.
Are we talking about the 4 ep OVA that is pretty universally acclaimed here or?
edit: You sound like you are talking about Macross 7.
Plus is gorgeous but also did not hold my interest at all. I appreciated it while not really being my thing. I'll watch clips of the good parts and recommend it, but never watch it again.
The Information High AMV is perfect though.
to bring it back to A-1, let us not forget that Franxx came out around when A-1's cash cow of choice was still Sword Art Online
which, well, some of that show's problems are inherent to the source material but given it's a light novel and not a manga I feel like it's fair to say they made some choices there
(it's me I'm the one with a really strong anti-A-1 bias)
edit: further research indicates that the main writers were Naotaka Hayashi, the guy what loves putting semi colons into anime titles a la Chaos;Head, and Atsushi Nishigori, a guy who's normally a leading animator at Trigger and the old associated Gainax unit but who had no prior writing credits to his name. so, perhaps some of the issues are Trigger-derived (which makes sense, Nishigori also directed the last episodes of Diebuster and those go off the rails in a similar, albeit more coherent/fun/cool way, to how the finale of Franxx goes)
Oh, THAT guy. I absolutely loathe all of the "semicolon title" things he's written. The writing is always the fucking worst version of the sort of Lost-style "mystery box" writing, where he clearly writes comes up with a bunch of mysteries with no particular resolution in mind, then wraps it all up with an ending that makes you feel like you've been hoodwinked into wasting your time watching. "Wait, none of the mysteries mattered, it turns out fucking magic is real and can do exactly what was needed to explain everything and this was not foreshadowed in any way, and you are a sucker for trying to figure out how it all tied together"
If he wrote Franxx that explains a lot.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-03-15/nier-automata-ver-1.1a-anime-reveals-english-dub-cast-march-18-premiere/.195991
It doesn't, really. I know you hate SciADV based on their anime adaptations, but Hayashi was the main writer for several Visual Novels within the series, not their anime adaptations which - aside from Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 - are universally acknowledged to be quite awful when compared to the source material.
Like, at a bare minimum you've got an experienced Trigger/Gainax animation and storyboarding guy who is out of his depth on actually writing stuff, another writer who's better known for VN thrillers trying to do a horny mech show, a studio that I've heard described as the WcDonald's of anime, and then also a production committee touting the government's line re: conservative heteronormativity. And then, who knows who actually had control of the final run at the script
I liked the Occultic;Nine anime a lot, but I hear the VN is even better.