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  • HellboreHellbore A bad, bad man Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    G-Witch Elan
    The "Elan Ceres" at Asticassia is explicitly "Enhanced Person Number 5". They even had a scene of the Peil CEOs talking to "Elan 0", I guess, about Number 5.
    https://en.gundam.info/about-gundam/series-pages/witch/character/41/

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I ended up watching Suzume today as planned. It was quite lovely, and the dubbed version worked for me, but I haven't seen the subtitled version to compare it to.
    I admit the filmed dragged a bit for me in Act 3, on the last road trip from Tokyo to Suzume's hometown, and I didn't entirely understand the motivation of the cats throughout the movie. But I realize I'm probably missing some cultural understanding. It was still a great movie that made me cry a bit at the end.

    I saw some notes on That Website We Don't Link To that suggested it was originally intended to be a love story between two female characters, but executives shot the idea down. That could have been an interesting change.

    Character motivation spoilers. Don't read if you haven't seen this.
    GO AWAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING
    Smol cat (Daijin) wanted to be Suzume's cat because she released it from being a keystone then fed it, and wasn't actually opening any of the gates. It was leading Suzume to the gates so they could close them. Hence why it's going WOW every time she does. It also doesn't like Souta because it wants Suzume to itself. When she rejects it, it wilts and realises it can't get what it wants in its life outside of being a keystone, but it still likes Suzume, so it continues on with her and helps guide her to the door she's looking for at the end of the road trip. In the scene where she is pulling Souta out, Suzume says she is going to become the keystone instead. This is when smol cat realises it will NEVER get what it wants (it looks at her immediately when she says that in reaction), and it also doesn't want Suzume to become the keystone and lose her life, so it self sacrifices itself to help her pull Souta out and becomes the original keystone again. This is why it apologises. It's a smol cat, it doesn't really understand human society, it just liked Suzume in its own simple way.

    The other big black cat is the second Keystone they talked about. It failed to prevent the entire worm from escaping in Tokyo, but it is a good boy and follows along to help them. I assume it is a more negative keystone as there's a strong duality balance in most Japanese cultural stories involving this kind of sealing or pairs of things, hence why it influenced the aunt to say those things, but I don't think it's deliberately bad. It was the cat that rocked up outside Souta's grandfather's hospital window, when he told it that it wants to help. So it follows along to be the second keystone needed to seal the worm. As does smol cat.

    They're both gods (kami), neither really have standard human motivations.

    Interesting.

    Follow up questions; don't read if you haven't watched Suzume yet!
    I didn't realize it was the big cat who spoke to the grandfather. I did notice that the cats' coloring reverses when they assume their keystone forms. That makes sense in a yin/yang sense.

    So does it matter that keystones were used on the Worm in the Everafter? Is that how that is normally used, or does that represent a change in the system going forward? And is there a special reason why Suzume's gate is the only one people can physically enter? Is it just the implications of the devastation of the March 11th earthquake and tsunami?
    I don't think the movie really answers those questions, or at least I can't tell, but clearly Souta still has to close gates. The worm cannot be permanently sealed. I suspect it doesn't matter because Souta sealed the worm above Tokyo but ended up in the Ever-After. The keystone was probably outside the door she opened because the seal was weakening after so long. It seems to be a thing you have to constantly reinforce. The worm is a faceless mindless thing, a natural disaster that can't be stopped, only contained and managed. This is reflected I think in the earthquake warnings always rocking up in the movie. Japan has managed to create a massive mitigation strategy for earthquakes that responds faster than an earthquake itself, but they can't actually STOP earthquakes completely.

    As for why that door, I don't have any easily available reference to guess at the answer. I suspect it's symbolic and related to the disaster, which affected the country heavily. It probably makes mythic sense, as the worm probably does. As you can see from those warning messages, earthquakes are just part of their life and have been for their entire history.

    For all this I'm just making educated guesses. This is what I meant when I can only feel a shadow of what's going on. I suspect for anyone born there the movie would range from hitting on a visceral level, to being way too blunt about it. It kinda hits you on the nose with these references. But that's how this director works.

    More Suzume stuff
    Souta's grandfather says that "there is only one door that you can enter to go to the Ever After." This isn't explained, but what I took from it is that I think this door would be different for every person, and is the source of near death experiences and folklore about "going to the other side" and so on. I don't think ANY person could go through that door, it is specifically HER door (although Souta does return through it, I suspect Closers may have ways of bending normal rules).
    That makes sense, but I don't think it was made super clear. Maybe the wording is clearer in the original japanese.

    I just got out of seeing Suzume
    Yeah what the grandfather was saying was since she had crossed over to the other side as a kid that was the only door she could use to go back through. I imagine the only reason she could go through as a kid was because she was trying to find her dead mother so hard.

    Anyways, I thought it was fine. I checked the time even before it got to the third act which kinda dragged.

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  • SethTheHumanSethTheHuman Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    This is also relevant as it's the director's feelings on the movie related to what we are talking about.

    https://apnews.com/article/suzume-anime-makato-shinkai-8bbf2ae1b1e60fee7db2ef4c05f80390

    Thank you. That was quite informative.

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    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
  • ElaroElaro Who am I? What do I want?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    So I just binged the Tonikaku Kawaii manga
    Ohhhhh sheeeee- we're about to learn some science about the effects of the Hourai elixir! Fuck yes let's gooooooo!

    Also, I 100% get why Tsukasa says she's 1400 times 16 years old. She never displayed the stable maturity of someone in their 30s-40s-etc. I'm thinking "allowing Tsukasa to live, grow, and die as a human being" is the real goal her friends were/are trying to accomplish. I'm just imagining if Nasa fails, and Tsukasa has to watch her beloved husband grow old and die right in front of her like all her previous close ones while she remains 16 forever.

    This does a lot to disarm the "I look 16, but I've been around for 1400 years" trope Tsukasa is borrowing.

    /spoiler]

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    Children's rights are human rights.
  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Hellbore wrote: »
    G-Witch Elan
    The "Elan Ceres" at Asticassia is explicitly "Enhanced Person Number 5". They even had a scene of the Peil CEOs talking to "Elan 0", I guess, about Number 5.
    https://en.gundam.info/about-gundam/series-pages/witch/character/41/

    Huh, well that answers that then

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Lanz wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Additional G Witch
    “I changed my face to stay alive. There’s no way I’m dying in vain.”

    Is he referring to subbing in his doubles to use Pharact, or is he suggesting that like, even “Elan Ceres” is a fictitious identity to protect him from something in his past?

    Is the original Elan Ceres even Elan Ceres???
    So like, with this current Elan I had also previously been under the impression that he was the "real" Elan. With the latest episode I have changed my opinion and now think that much like the previous Elan he is also a test subject, just a much, much more successful one who therefore has been afforded far more privileges. I suspect there is no "real" Elan now.
    Yeah this was my impression too; that this was the Elan that appeared and was mocking Four back at the lab, but now that Four’s been executed he has to step into the role he filled (and is doing so badly)

    So I guess if we’re numbering them I thought this was Elan 1


    I think I’m with you on the idea that there is no “original” Elan Ceres, and that they’re all basically test subjects for Permet research (it should be noted too “Enhanced Person” is the term for anyone with Permet augmentation/infusion; so Sophie and Norea would be Enhanced Persons too, as would Eri and the other, now gone, Vanadis pilots), with varying degrees of value (presumably 1 is the largest success, and the subsequent Elans are trying to replicate it?)

    GWitch Elan
    I feel like you missed/forgot a scene. This is explicitly a new Enhanced Person Elan and Real Elan peaced out again (he only interacted with Suletta once, at the business proposal gala). Episode 10, the new Enhanced Person Elan introduces himself to Suletta at 16:00 minutes, then at 17:30 Real Elan does exposition about the new Elan.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Sorce wrote: »
    Facepunch Gundam, current week's episode.
    Confirmation that Aerial is in fact Eri, because Suletta's Mom is kind of a monster that does terrible things in the name of peace.
    I suspect "Elnora used desperate measures to keep herself and her 4 year-old from dying adrift in a space mech, and then spent the next 21 years coping with the trauma of Ep0 and the consequences of putting/uploading her baby girl's brain in a mech" is a more accurate description than "I'll sacrifice my daughters for World Peace!", but, either way, we've got a Bad Parent on our hands.

    (Still better than Gendo)
    The especially funny part was:
    Woman: "You uploaded your daughter to the Matrix!? You monster!"
    Same Woman Six Episodes Ago: "This orphan I've been secretly experimenting on to become a war machine has failed. Feed him to the incinerator."

    Fascinating moral compass you have there.
    She tried to prevent that from happening.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Just a note: if you have Netflix, after this week’s Gundam reveals I would highly recommend that folks go and watch ID-0 (directed by Goro Taniguchi of s.CRY.ed, GunXSword, Code Geass and BackArrow):

    https://youtu.be/PWo09LNWiHI
    https://youtu.be/8NG7Ab_igi0
    https://youtu.be/OzfVwKcDduA

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Between new Tonikawa and starting The Galaxy Next Door, I'm spoiled for choices on the "I have a cute wife (who is also a goddess but that's not important)" slice of life

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Between new Tonikawa and starting The Galaxy Next Door, I'm spoiled for choices on the "I have a cute wife (who is also a goddess but that's not important)" slice of life

    Even just "having a wife" is rare enough, but that seems to becoming more of a thing, with Hell's Paradise and Way of the Househusband having married main characters.

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    G-Witch 14:

    I cannot believe that the OS name hint was there the entire time.

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    In recent vertically-scrolling-comic stuff:

    I wish the How To Fight guy would come up with a plot that isn't "here's _yet another_ new gang for our heroes to fight", because, sheesh, the cast is already plenty big enough without even more never-seen-before tough folks just sort of showing up out of the blue. Though, to be fair, I appreciated these latest folks' sense of, I guess, disappointed outrage in response to:
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    Greatest Estate Developer is still fantastic in general ("What Is Our Motto?" "Safety First!"), and then there's things like the tonal switch between one panel and the next:
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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Between new Tonikawa and starting The Galaxy Next Door, I'm spoiled for choices on the "I have a cute wife (who is also a goddess but that's not important)" slice of life

    Even just "having a wife" is rare enough, but that seems to becoming more of a thing, with Hell's Paradise and Way of the Househusband having married main characters.

    In the Tonikawa case I think it's because he's been drawing manga for 20 years. His early work was younger unmarried characters, but now he's older and married, so he draws that more easily. Write what you know, and all that.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I don't know how mangaka even meet anyone and get married what with the way they are chained to their desks

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Dandadan 102
    The horrible secret of the Not-Godzilla suit is pretty darn horrible. Can't wait to see the hell Vamola has to go through to steal one and make her way to Earth from wherever these "Sumerians" are at.

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  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I don't know how mangaka even meet anyone and get married what with the way they are chained to their desks

    I think it's telling they usually marry people in the industry as well

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I wonder if they mainly meet each other doing assistant work between working on their own stuff

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    I think I remember reading that Naoko Takeuchi and Yoshihiro Tagashi met at a party

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    maybe I'm just projecting my own social anxiety onto others where the only way I could ever start a romantic relationship is with someone I am around a lot, not hitting it off with a relative stranger at a party

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  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Elaro wrote: »
    So I just binged the Tonikaku Kawaii manga
    Ohhhhh sheeeee- we're about to learn some science about the effects of the Hourai elixir! Fuck yes let's gooooooo!

    Also, I 100% get why Tsukasa says she's 1400 times 16 years old. She never displayed the stable maturity of someone in their 30s-40s-etc. I'm thinking "allowing Tsukasa to live, grow, and die as a human being" is the real goal her friends were/are trying to accomplish. I'm just imagining if Nasa fails, and Tsukasa has to watch her beloved husband grow old and die right in front of her like all her previous close ones while she remains 16 forever.

    This does a lot to disarm the "I look 16, but I've been around for 1400 years" trope Tsukasa is borrowing.

    I think this was one of the most "I did not see the direction this was going to go" stories I've read in a fair while, especially because it is just a fairly normal romcom for an awfully long time.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Lasbrook wrote: »
    G-Witch 14:

    I cannot believe that the OS name hint was there the entire time.

    That one was one I was kicking myself over too

    Io9 also has an article up about the recent episode too, which feels unusual for a Gundam series to accomplish that, so yeah, WfM got big in popularity.

    Spoilers within, obviously

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Elaro wrote: »
    So I just binged the Tonikaku Kawaii manga
    Ohhhhh sheeeee- we're about to learn some science about the effects of the Hourai elixir! Fuck yes let's gooooooo!

    Also, I 100% get why Tsukasa says she's 1400 times 16 years old. She never displayed the stable maturity of someone in their 30s-40s-etc. I'm thinking "allowing Tsukasa to live, grow, and die as a human being" is the real goal her friends were/are trying to accomplish. I'm just imagining if Nasa fails, and Tsukasa has to watch her beloved husband grow old and die right in front of her like all her previous close ones while she remains 16 forever.

    This does a lot to disarm the "I look 16, but I've been around for 1400 years" trope Tsukasa is borrowing.

    I think this was one of the most "I did not see the direction this was going to go" stories I've read in a fair while, especially because it is just a fairly normal romcom for an awfully long time.

    There were a ton of hints in the beginning, but the payoff was great.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Tonikaku Kawaii and Call of the Night are both big on the "how it started / how it's going" scale when it comes to just shifting genres many chapters in.

    Though they also shift back and forth with the original genre as it goes on.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    Hell's Paradise Ep3: well, getting right to the culling, good lord.

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  • WearingGlassesWearingGlasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Dandadan 102
    The horrible secret of the Not-Godzilla suit is pretty darn horrible. Can't wait to see the hell Vamola has to go through to steal one and make her way to Earth from wherever these "Sumerians" are at.
    With the Godzilla suit being pretty important to Vamola's flashback, and with everyone else basically having their own power ups, this feels like Vamola is kiiiinda safe and will get healed eventually, joing the cast after? Still not a guarantee, though.

    That's an impressively horrifying splash page of Big Mama and the Sumerians. Like... Damn.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    AniMenagerie experienced a little history tonight:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-840keiiFDE

    I thought it was a good time, right before this character (and two further variations) showed up in the second half of Otaku no Video. Along with our nemesis, Anno himself.

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  • KupiKupi Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    GWitch 14 finally gave me the feeling that all the other Gundam series I've seen have given me at one point or another.
    "RIP that guy, whoever he was. Was he important? I can't remember..."

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  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I finished season 1 of My Hero Academia

    This show is dope!

    Tsu is the best, ribbit

    The opening song is a banger

    10/10, no notes

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  • ouzaruouzaru RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I don't know how mangaka even meet anyone and get married what with the way they are chained to their desks

    Oh don't worry, basically nobody's getting married in Japan these days anyways.

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    spono wrote: »
    I finished season 1 of My Hero Academia

    This show is dope!

    Tsu is the best, ribbit

    The opening song is a banger

    10/10, no notes
    Tsu fully ribbits commits to the bit, and it's great.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    I'm still catching up on last season's shows. I binged The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and Genius Young Lady this past weekend.

    It was a bit of a slow burn, but the ending was extremely satisfying and overall I'd say it was Worth Watching. I'd probably put it ahead of Hero-king reincarnated as the strongest squire.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 13
    Last night at AniMenagerie we finished the second OVA series for Dirty Pair.

    Perfect, amazing, no notes, we all loved it.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 13
    spono wrote: »
    I finished season 1 of My Hero Academia

    This show is dope!

    Tsu is the best, ribbit

    The opening song is a banger

    10/10, no notes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFAGAyLzcg

    still good after all these years

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Last night at AniMenagerie we finished the second OVA series for Dirty Pair.

    Perfect, amazing, no notes, we all loved it.

    Looking forward to the whole franchise coming out on Blu-Ray later this year.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 13
    Dirty Pair is so good

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