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Edit: Gonna spoiler that just in case.
(Still WfM)
fair point, I was especially thinking of Unicorn wrt the baggage of prior UC stuff, because I know a lot of people who have tried to start there and utterly bounce off it - meanwhile I started there and ended up watching everything through ZZ by the time the third episode released
I imagine the next part would just cover the
Megazone 23!
Violence! Impact! Destroy! Energy!
I finally finished the ADV/AnimEigo KS set of the three movies(kind of four, III is a two-parter), and I'd rank them 1 > 3 >>> 2.
I loathe the artstyle of 2, and I can't even believe these are the same people:
Still, the whole series is a fun ride, especially 1 for its high octane 80s antics and 3 for going full Bubblegum Crisis cyberpunk.
And the OST is nothing short of incredible:
I've never seen Initial D. Is it any good if you're not a car or racing enthusiast, or is it really made for them?
It's a fantastic series across the board, as long as it's the original(and you don't mind it losing steam at the Project D arc).
yeah, I agree with this, esp after eps 17/18.
Also don't look in the folder marked "Boring Tax Stuff" when you're doing it.
Oh my god, I've never watched this (I own it, I'll get to it...) but I was immediately able to clock that character on the right was animated by Yasuomi Umetsu just by looking at her clothes!!
(The guy really likes to draw in creeses and other little details in character's clothes. He's kind of infamous for directing Kite but his list of credits is enormous)
(CSM Part 1 manga stuff)
At this point, given the show's trajectory, I suspect the end will be something like (extremely cynical take follows):
Basically, unless you are G Gundam (or the Build series, I guess), you don't generally get to have a happy ending in these shows, so I would not be shocked if some or all of that happened.
The traditional free square in the middle being that is kind of depressing, but I can't really argue with it being practically a given at this point.
I’m confused because a normal Gundam trajectory typically isnt that crushingly dark, particularly for the protagonists
The darkest ones I can think of are like,
Or 0080.
Most Gundam protagonists dont end up with grim, bitter endings.
CSM Part 1
The real santa claus also sent her helper to hell to make the bargain with darkness devil in exchange for power.
Each story arc builds to insanity, so when the ended up in hell when I was reading it, my reaction was "oh yeah, I was wondering when things would stop being normal."
I'm kidding there's no reason to do this to the poor girl, but I do want to restate where Prospera/Miorine/Aerial are coming from.
This is not some minor "cutting out" for obscure reasons. Prospera made her intent known.
A LOT OF FUCKING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET MURDERED BY AERIAL AND PROSPERA.
It's safe to assume Prospera's goal is the dismantling and destruction of the entire corpo entity that is governing both Earth and Space. It is going to be fucked.
Miorine knows Prospera is fucked, and has literally brainwashed her cloned child. There is no progress that can be made as long as Suletta is within proximity of her mother.
Aerial does not want to turn her sister as a party to mass murder, she feels she deserves better. Which she does.
Now, gaslighting her to burn that bridge as hard as possible? Terrible, they are all monsters for it.
But keep in mind the ACTUAL discussion on why they don't want Suletta to not be around them any more is, "Hey, we're about to do a WHOLE LOT OF MURDER and we don't want you apart of that stay at school okay?"
There's a 90% chance that the truth won't work on Suletta and she would smile and say she won't abandon her family.
It's not exactly one of the easiest situations to explain to a teenage brainwashed clone child girl.
Yeah, usually the protags make it out pretty okay, if not well. IBO is an abberation and even then
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Addendum:
Prospera’s still a fucking asshole though for sure
Also Zeta's original ending is very dark. The movies heavily retcon just how bad it goes.
They mention the gene aspect so I’m guessing the former
Also it all goes back to one of the obvious themes of this show: your parents will fuck you up. Everyone's parents that we've seen have been various shades of awful, even when they've got the best of intentions (and we've seen that characters like Delling and Vim do care, they just suck at being parents)
There's a reason Chuchu is one of the better adjusted characters, and her having a whole dad squad is part of that (I'd bet her actual parents are dead, though).
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Oh how dark can it be?
[remembers the Kuntala*]
You may have a point
In G Reco Kuntala are regularly discriminated against, with overt bigotry sometimes taking the form of reinforcing/reminding them of their history as… food stock.
Long story short, I'd like the series to go back to being Utena with giant robots. Plenty of drama to be had with that without getting into DRAMA. And I hope they do end up sticking the landing since it would be terrible for all the new fans to get driven away by a bad ending.
Again (as the naming of characters has noted), this is The Tempest But With Giant Robots, where one of the big themes is "sin of the fathers (and mothers)".
Why did I click on the 60+ new post notification hoping it was anything else?
If I had to guess the bit on earth is probably going to be:
This ends up bolstering Jeturk+GUND Arm+Shin Sei, and in turn providing a push for accelerating production on the Gundnode line, whose big purpose, aside from the bit in the file about serving as protection for Aerial, as expanding the size of Aerial’s data storm network; bigger network = bigger controlled space that determines what MS do and do not function in a space
Yeahhh I was kinda hoping to wait for it all to be out
It is funny how CSM got chased off into its own thread but Gundam gets a pass (can't post in the Gundam thread that's a bridge too far)
even ignoring the movies,
you have a point in that it seems humanity in gundam is doomed to repeat history, but there are actually a lot of individual entries in UC and AU alike with happy or hopeful endings, i feel like people are letting a couple of gutpunch endings color their perception of the whole of gundam
like if suletta and miorine end up getting a happy ending, that isn't some kind of subversion
anyway more chuchu fanart
It’s a weird bit because there’s occasionally WFM talk in there, but I think it’s popularity beyond just Gundam Fans means most folks who want to talk about it come here to do so, because it’s just a much wider pool of viewers and so they come to the wider-scoped thread