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Anyways, I was looking through the Evolution thread and I came across several science fiction short stores that I really enjoyed. So I thought I would make a thread where people could share short stories whither they be science fiction or any other genre.
To stick with the theme of science fiction, heres a sf short story that I really enjoyed. It called The Pedestrian by Ray Bradbury.
Which Bradbury (I think its his) story is it that has the future-house going about its daily tasks even though the occupants were wiped out in a nuclear war?
also: Ellison's I have no mouth and I must scream is so good.
The one I gave a synopsis of in the evolution thread was in a book of 100 short SF stories by different authors. I lost the book (I think my sister may have absconded with it) and I have no idea who the author of the story was. The introduction to it described it as a "100 little breaks" one could take from a busy day. If anyone knows the book I'm talking about drop me a PM of the title 'cause I really wanna find another copy.
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Yes,... yes, I agree. It's totally unfair that sober you gets into trouble for things that drunk you did.
The one I gave a synopsis of in the evolution thread was in a book of 100 short SF stories by different authors. I lost the book (I think my sister may have absconded with it) and I have no idea who the author of the story was. The introduction to it described it as a "100 little breaks" one could take from a busy day. If anyone knows the book I'm talking about drop me a PM of the title 'cause I really wanna find another copy.
I have the same damn problem, except the stories are from an anthology I've read in the library when I was like twelve. I think it might have been a '7x edition and unfortunately with my town's influx of tax money they've expanded their collection, sold old books and replaced them with new ones.
I read a ton of short stories. Off the top of my head, some of my favorites are Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut, People Like That Are The Only People Here by Lorrie Moore, and Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been by Joyce Carol Oates. I also love anything by David Sedaris and Dorothy Parker. I'll have to go look through some of my collections and post some other favorites later.
also: Ellison's I have no mouth and I must scream is so good.
Man, you better not tell him that.
Seriously, Ellison appears to hate almost every story of his that's become popular (or at least dislike them relative to other stories).
From what I can tell, his most popular stories are ones like the aforementioned and "'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman", which he wrote in a day or two at the most; whereas the ones he thinks deserve greater attention are the ones he spent months on.
Case in point: On the audiobook Voice of the Edge, Ellison complains that his story "Grail", which he says is "Approximately 273,000 times better than 'I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream'", has never been reprinted, whereas the latter has about a million times.
I tried listening to "Grail". Ellison's reading was probably part of the problem, but honestly I couldn't get through it because it was just so stupid, and I'm a big Ellison fan.
Another story which I recall that he spent a long time on is "Paladin of the Lost Hour", which I also find rather stupid.
What it seems to come down to is that Ellison's most polished fiction is his worst. The less time he spends on a piece, the better.
Which Bradbury (I think its his) story is it that has the future-house going about its daily tasks even though the occupants were wiped out in a nuclear war?
also: Ellison's I have no mouth and I must scream is so good.
Whenever anyone brings up short stories, I always think of Chuck Palahniuk's short, Guts, I think the title is, about the pool and the intestines and the suction. Ugh.
I liked Candide, and I recall that was fairly short. Of Mice and Men was short as well. I hope this was what the OP was looking for
I think he meant things deliberately written as short stories, rather than novels of abnormally short length.
Novellas.
I remember reading a while ago a collection of Ernest Hemingway's short stories that had these super short "scenes" in between sections. A paragraph or two at most. Interesting stuff. Snipets from a bull fight, the Spanish Civil War, &c.
Also from Bradbury, The Dragon Danced at Midnight and The F. Scott/Tolstoy/Ahab Accumulator are a couple of his more memorable ones that don't lean too heavily on the whole science-fiction angle. Especially the former; it's a delightful little piece about a couple of Z-grade moviemakers who achieve critical renown by allowing a drunk projectionists to mix up their film canisters. His hyperactive dialogue's at a peak in that story.
I bought this collection called Masterpieces a week ago and it is very good. It has short stories chosen by Orson Scott Card representing the best Sci-Fi out there.
Really, every short story in here is amazing.
Other than that, I've only read Orson Scott Card's and Isaac Asmov's short fiction.
Cory Doctorow has a couple of really good ones floating around online somewhere.. I have a dentist appointment, but two of my favorites are called 0wnz0red and I, Robot. The second is not to be confused with certain other stories by the same name. I'll look for them in a bit.
Cory Doctorow has a couple of really good ones floating around online somewhere.. I have a dentist appointment, but two of my favorites are called 0wnz0red and I, Robot. The second is not to be confused with certain other stories by the same name. I'll look for them in a bit.
Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of pre-emptively posting, "Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced," but I thought that would be a dick move.
But now that somebody else has brought him up... Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I bought this collection called Masterpieces a week ago and it is very good. It has short stories chosen by Orson Scott Card representing the best Sci-Fi out there.
Really, every short story in here is amazing.
Other than that, I've only read Orson Scott Card's and Isaac Asmov's short fiction.
I just finished reading H.G. Wells' Selected Short Stories and there's some really good stuff in there. "The Land Ironclads", "In The Abyss" and "The Plattner Story" were my favourites, but really they're all fantastic. Wells is almost frighteningly prophetic at times.
I really enjoy the short story format; they're great for journeys or if you're fond of reading a book in one sitting but never seem to have the time.
A lot of crime authors write/wrote very decent short stories - often better than their full-length novels. GK Chesterton's Father Brown stories and any of Agatha Christies' are really good.
Raymond Carver's What We Talk About When We Talk About Love is a brilliant collection. Required reading for everyone. So Much Water, So Close To Home is the best short story ever written.
Hemingway also has some crackers, my favourites being Hills Like White Elephants and The Snows of Kilimanjaro.
Janson's on the right ticket with Checkhov, too. Read Gusev for a wonderful little tale that is simultaneously tragic and magical. The guy wrote a lot though and rumour has it they weren't all quite so great.
As for more recent stuff, Murakami comes out with some good stories, and it's very new so it's always exciting. He's a breeze to read- sometimes it feels like he's cheating somehow by getting away with such plain language - but, like all good shorts, the magic comes from what he doesn't say rather than what he does. Check out Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman.
(edit: this is a terrible thread to make on the very night I have to write a 1,500 word reflective essay on my own short fiction, jeeze. and if anyone happens to be interested in helping out by reading a story of mine tonight - it's good, I promise - pm me, because I'm always grateful for an audience)
Pain, Bullets and things that go BOOM in the night.
Pain. I don't know where I stop and the pain begins. It caresses my senses like a velvet glove - its almost seductive in its pervasiveness. My eyes snap open and realisation hit me - I had been shot, and one of my lungs wasn't responding to my ragged breathing.
Where am I? My vision clears and reality hits me like a brick, contrasting with the pain and sparking a burst of adrenaline. Living room. Window, with small hole. They had fired through the window. The enemy is outside. How many?
A cough of blood snapped me back into reality from my strangely analytical thought process - move or die. Move. Back entrance is no doubt being watched. Windows too. Only one option - front door, hope they didn't expect it. Who? How many? Why?
Car keys, next to the front door. I pray that the electronic key will open the car from here. I can't see outside, no windows. I look through the peephole, and can see the car on the street. I push the unlock button, hoping to see the reassuring flash of indicator lights.
The explosion lights up the night sky. A trap. My only avenue of escape gone. They must have watched me - know I almost never use the button. The bomb was meant to finish me off. Should have gotten that phone line installed. Shouldn't have dropped my mobile today. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Dead. They can finish me and be gone before the police get here.
Footsteps on the gravel leading to the door. Despair. Pain. Blackness.
And one I wrote for a friends daughter
"But...but..." the stammering girl cried.
"No buts," her mother replied. "We simply cannot afford to give you five dollars a month just for doing your chores. You need to help us."
As her mother turned away Sarah stopped her crying and stammering, and in a fit of rage traversed their small house to her room. She hated being poor, her friends got to do fun things, whereas she did not. They received pocket money, whereas she did not. She had sought a job, but was unable to find anyone who would hire an eight year old girl.
As she brushed her teeth in preparation for bed, she realised that one of them was loose. "At least the tooth fairy leaves me a dollar" she half mumbled to herself. Suddenly, it hit her - the tooth fairy must have a lot of money if she could give every child a dollar for every tooth lost.
She lay in bed that night thinking - prehaps she should could convince the tooth fairy to give her more? After all, if she explained how horrible her mother was being, she would understand. But first she had to make sure she could talk to her - after all she knew when you were sleeping and when you were faking it, but would she know if you were going to trap her?
A very industrious week for little Sarah passed. Her father helped her build a fairy trap "for the bottom of the garden". Sarah then snuck it back into the house and using her finger paints made it look pretty.
Her tooth, as they are wont to do in youth, fell out. With glee she placed her tooth in the middle of the trap, and went to sleep.
The next morning she woke up and quickly looked, but in the middle of the trap lay a single dollar coin. The trap had been triggered, but she couldnt work out what the matter was. She decided that maybe the woodworking teacher at school would be the best one to talk to.
As he examined the trap, he asked what it was for. "Rats," she explained. He made some modifications and warned her to be careful, as it was now very strong and could hurt her easily.
She waited and waited for her next tooth to come loose. She couldn't wait to talk to the tooth fairy. Eventually, a tooth came loose, and with glee she used it to bait her trap.
As she settled down to sleep she couldn't wait till morning.
A scream filled the house. Sarah looked over at the trap and standing there screaming, was her mother - with blood pumping out her wrist. In the trap, almost highlighted by moonlight, she saw her mother's detatched hand...
I've only recently been getting into short story stuff. Picked up a good compilation by Nick Hornby with a bunch of newer authors writing specifically for it. Called "Speaking With the Angel". The one Hornby himself wrote in there is damn good.
Cory Doctorow has a couple of really good ones floating around online somewhere.. I have a dentist appointment, but two of my favorites are called 0wnz0red and I, Robot. The second is not to be confused with certain other stories by the same name. I'll look for them in a bit.
Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of pre-emptively posting, "Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced," but I thought that would be a dick move.
But now that somebody else has brought him up... Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced.
What's your objection to his stuff? I find it refreshing.
I remember reading one short story that Bradbury wrote. It was about this kind of kid's toy that could transport them into a virtual reality jungle or desert or something. Also, October Country is win. Are all of his short stories that macabre?
Cory Doctorow has a couple of really good ones floating around online somewhere.. I have a dentist appointment, but two of my favorites are called 0wnz0red and I, Robot. The second is not to be confused with certain other stories by the same name. I'll look for them in a bit.
Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of pre-emptively posting, "Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced," but I thought that would be a dick move.
But now that somebody else has brought him up... Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced.
What's your objection to his stuff? I find it refreshing.
There are plenty of sf writers who can't write believable characters; I can let that slide if they create interesting worlds. If they can't create interesting worlds, I can let that slide if they have interesting ideas. If they don't have interesting ideas, well, then they're just useless. I think Cory Doctorow fails on all three categories.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Probably my two favorite story collections are Sherman Alexie's The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven and Denis Johnson's Jesus' Son, both of which are sorta borderline as short story collections because all the stories concern the same character or set of characters, and both of which were made into films which, while not terrible, pale in comparison to the books themselves.
Individual stories that rock my world include River of Names by Dorothy Allison, The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien, How to Be Another Woman by Lorrie Moore and Bigfoot Stole My Wife by Ron Carlson.
Just remembered another great short story collection I read recently, "The Acid House" by Irvine Welsh. Genius fucked up stories about life in deprived Scotland with a lot of truth to them, and plenty of weird fantastical stuff too. Largely written in phonetic Scottish dialect, so it's really hard to understand at first, but if you like the film/book Trainspotting, you'll probably like the bite sized stories set in the same area.
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also: Ellison's I have no mouth and I must scream is so good.
I have the same damn problem, except the stories are from an anthology I've read in the library when I was like twelve. I think it might have been a '7x edition and unfortunately with my town's influx of tax money they've expanded their collection, sold old books and replaced them with new ones.
Man, you better not tell him that.
Seriously, Ellison appears to hate almost every story of his that's become popular (or at least dislike them relative to other stories).
From what I can tell, his most popular stories are ones like the aforementioned and "'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman", which he wrote in a day or two at the most; whereas the ones he thinks deserve greater attention are the ones he spent months on.
Case in point: On the audiobook Voice of the Edge, Ellison complains that his story "Grail", which he says is "Approximately 273,000 times better than 'I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream'", has never been reprinted, whereas the latter has about a million times.
I tried listening to "Grail". Ellison's reading was probably part of the problem, but honestly I couldn't get through it because it was just so stupid, and I'm a big Ellison fan.
Another story which I recall that he spent a long time on is "Paladin of the Lost Hour", which I also find rather stupid.
What it seems to come down to is that Ellison's most polished fiction is his worst. The less time he spends on a piece, the better.
There Will Come Soft Rains.
It's amazing.
EDIT: Here's the link for a nice quick read
http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/books/haunted/guts.php
I think he meant things deliberately written as short stories, rather than novels of abnormally short length.
I remember reading a while ago a collection of Ernest Hemingway's short stories that had these super short "scenes" in between sections. A paragraph or two at most. Interesting stuff. Snipets from a bull fight, the Spanish Civil War, &c.
Also from Bradbury, The Dragon Danced at Midnight and The F. Scott/Tolstoy/Ahab Accumulator are a couple of his more memorable ones that don't lean too heavily on the whole science-fiction angle. Especially the former; it's a delightful little piece about a couple of Z-grade moviemakers who achieve critical renown by allowing a drunk projectionists to mix up their film canisters. His hyperactive dialogue's at a peak in that story.
Ah, ok, I wasn't 100% sure, my fault
EDIT: apparently Ray Bradbury hasn't been dead long enough (or at all?) for his stories to be available on Project Gutenberg. Too bad.
Really, every short story in here is amazing.
Other than that, I've only read Orson Scott Card's and Isaac Asmov's short fiction.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Er. He's not dead, and even if he died tomorrow, his writing wouldn't pass into the public domain for about a century, given current copyright laws.
Arthur C. Clarke must be spinning in his grave over my mistake ;-)
I read it at least once a year.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Also, the idea that a story called "0wnz0red" could be good boggles my mind.
Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of pre-emptively posting, "Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced," but I thought that would be a dick move.
But now that somebody else has brought him up... Fuck Cory Doctorow and everything he's ever produced.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
This is a good collection as well, perhaps better.
I liked "Passengers" by Robert Silverberg a lot. Rather creepy.
Some are, some aren't, in my opinion. His sci-fi is usually better than his fantasy, too, I think.
arr b'garr
Speaking of Arthur C. Clarke, "The Star" is a pretty great short story. I can't really give any details without spoiling it, though.
A lot of crime authors write/wrote very decent short stories - often better than their full-length novels. GK Chesterton's Father Brown stories and any of Agatha Christies' are really good.
I also enjoy some of Chekhov's work.
Hemingway also has some crackers, my favourites being Hills Like White Elephants and The Snows of Kilimanjaro.
Janson's on the right ticket with Checkhov, too. Read Gusev for a wonderful little tale that is simultaneously tragic and magical. The guy wrote a lot though and rumour has it they weren't all quite so great.
As for more recent stuff, Murakami comes out with some good stories, and it's very new so it's always exciting. He's a breeze to read- sometimes it feels like he's cheating somehow by getting away with such plain language - but, like all good shorts, the magic comes from what he doesn't say rather than what he does. Check out Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman.
(edit: this is a terrible thread to make on the very night I have to write a 1,500 word reflective essay on my own short fiction, jeeze. and if anyone happens to be interested in helping out by reading a story of mine tonight - it's good, I promise - pm me, because I'm always grateful for an audience)
Pain. I don't know where I stop and the pain begins. It caresses my senses like a velvet glove - its almost seductive in its pervasiveness. My eyes snap open and realisation hit me - I had been shot, and one of my lungs wasn't responding to my ragged breathing.
Where am I? My vision clears and reality hits me like a brick, contrasting with the pain and sparking a burst of adrenaline. Living room. Window, with small hole. They had fired through the window. The enemy is outside. How many?
A cough of blood snapped me back into reality from my strangely analytical thought process - move or die. Move. Back entrance is no doubt being watched. Windows too. Only one option - front door, hope they didn't expect it. Who? How many? Why?
Car keys, next to the front door. I pray that the electronic key will open the car from here. I can't see outside, no windows. I look through the peephole, and can see the car on the street. I push the unlock button, hoping to see the reassuring flash of indicator lights.
The explosion lights up the night sky. A trap. My only avenue of escape gone. They must have watched me - know I almost never use the button. The bomb was meant to finish me off. Should have gotten that phone line installed. Shouldn't have dropped my mobile today. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Dead. They can finish me and be gone before the police get here.
Footsteps on the gravel leading to the door. Despair. Pain. Blackness.
And one I wrote for a friends daughter
"But...but..." the stammering girl cried.
"No buts," her mother replied. "We simply cannot afford to give you five dollars a month just for doing your chores. You need to help us."
As her mother turned away Sarah stopped her crying and stammering, and in a fit of rage traversed their small house to her room. She hated being poor, her friends got to do fun things, whereas she did not. They received pocket money, whereas she did not. She had sought a job, but was unable to find anyone who would hire an eight year old girl.
As she brushed her teeth in preparation for bed, she realised that one of them was loose. "At least the tooth fairy leaves me a dollar" she half mumbled to herself. Suddenly, it hit her - the tooth fairy must have a lot of money if she could give every child a dollar for every tooth lost.
She lay in bed that night thinking - prehaps she should could convince the tooth fairy to give her more? After all, if she explained how horrible her mother was being, she would understand. But first she had to make sure she could talk to her - after all she knew when you were sleeping and when you were faking it, but would she know if you were going to trap her?
A very industrious week for little Sarah passed. Her father helped her build a fairy trap "for the bottom of the garden". Sarah then snuck it back into the house and using her finger paints made it look pretty.
Her tooth, as they are wont to do in youth, fell out. With glee she placed her tooth in the middle of the trap, and went to sleep.
The next morning she woke up and quickly looked, but in the middle of the trap lay a single dollar coin. The trap had been triggered, but she couldnt work out what the matter was. She decided that maybe the woodworking teacher at school would be the best one to talk to.
As he examined the trap, he asked what it was for. "Rats," she explained. He made some modifications and warned her to be careful, as it was now very strong and could hurt her easily.
She waited and waited for her next tooth to come loose. She couldn't wait to talk to the tooth fairy. Eventually, a tooth came loose, and with glee she used it to bait her trap.
As she settled down to sleep she couldn't wait till morning.
A scream filled the house. Sarah looked over at the trap and standing there screaming, was her mother - with blood pumping out her wrist. In the trap, almost highlighted by moonlight, she saw her mother's detatched hand...
I've only recently been getting into short story stuff. Picked up a good compilation by Nick Hornby with a bunch of newer authors writing specifically for it. Called "Speaking With the Angel". The one Hornby himself wrote in there is damn good.
What's your objection to his stuff? I find it refreshing.
There are plenty of sf writers who can't write believable characters; I can let that slide if they create interesting worlds. If they can't create interesting worlds, I can let that slide if they have interesting ideas. If they don't have interesting ideas, well, then they're just useless. I think Cory Doctorow fails on all three categories.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Individual stories that rock my world include River of Names by Dorothy Allison, The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien, How to Be Another Woman by Lorrie Moore and Bigfoot Stole My Wife by Ron Carlson.
Requiem, by Robert A. Heinlen.
Heartbreaking if you read them together.