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Inaugural Coin Return Board of Directors Election [2025] - VOTING closed. Results soon.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    yeah I really don't think it matters entirely much at this point how D&D rules were concocted and applied (or at least not enough to make it a thing in the current thread). geebs is gone as are most of the others involved save one and we've already pretty well laid out how we want moderation to happen going forward at the new place

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I spent a substantial amount of time on this process, because I felt it was important and deserved attention.

    I read the candidate bios. I followed the Q&A in this thread. I followed the Q&A in the dedicated thread. I read through every response in Sir Fab's comprehensive spreadsheet. I read many endorsements and testimonials from other posters about the candidates. These did have an effect on where I placed my votes for candidates, so they were welcomed effort on your part. There's still probably 100s of posts I haven't read surrounding the election, but I think I've read enough, and it will have to be enough.

    This whole process was the result of talented volunteers lending their time and professional experience, and I couldn't be prouder and more grateful to our community.

  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    The rules in D&D under Jeffe's tenure were not uniformly enforced.

    Jeffe has stated before that in his philosophy as moderator, "keeping the peace," that is to say, keeping the majority of posters placated, is more important than who is actually right about something.

    Which very neatly explains why he would shut down minority posters who got heated when the "normal" posters were being indifferent or even outright hostile regarding minority groups.

    Which explains why, when someone who is outspoken about issues in ways unpopular with the general consensus but does so following all the rules, new rules are put in place so that they can be punished for the crime of speaking unpopular truths.

    Yes, under Geebs, D&D mods were explictly told that they couldn't enforce the rules on certain people/topics. That's why we had mods like Bogart come in and just make bold posts begging people to stop, and then punishing everyone by just locking threads universally, instead of actually dealing with any bad actors

    I would ask you the source of that information? And if anyone else would care to verify the accuracy of it? Because unless something has gone very strange on this it would not be something you have first hand knowledge of.

    From PMs with various active D&D mods at the time. I think I talked with most of them who weren't bogart and elki at one point or another

    So it was from ElJeffe then? He has stated repeatedly that he was the only active D&D mod at the time. I just want to make sure I have the facts right here. I am still curious if anyone who was there can confirm. Second hand knowledge has limits.

    This was while there were still other active mods, it was well before geebs went out for smokes and never came back the first time, even.

    Well I will await confirmation or denial from other mods of the time. I do wonder why you dodged my direct question but that is ok. ElJeffe's own statements paint a picture on that one. Not that I think telling people something like that is super scandalous. I am just trying to make sure we get all of the facts straight.

    I'm not going to dig through years old PMs to create a 20 page manifesto if that's what you're asking for.

    But if we want to talk about mods doing shit to "maintain the peace", there's plenty of that going around with the current staff. In this very thread even.

    Just say what you mean, please, instead of this vague stuff that only serves to stir up further drama...

  • YellowhammerYellowhammer Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    So just 24 hours and 30 minutes until voting closes. Thank you for your hard work, Sir Fabulous.

    Yellowhammer on
  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
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    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    edit: not helpful

    Houk on
  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    The rules in D&D under Jeffe's tenure were not uniformly enforced.

    Jeffe has stated before that in his philosophy as moderator, "keeping the peace," that is to say, keeping the majority of posters placated, is more important than who is actually right about something.

    Which very neatly explains why he would shut down minority posters who got heated when the "normal" posters were being indifferent or even outright hostile regarding minority groups.

    Which explains why, when someone who is outspoken about issues in ways unpopular with the general consensus but does so following all the rules, new rules are put in place so that they can be punished for the crime of speaking unpopular truths.

    Yes, under Geebs, D&D mods were explictly told that they couldn't enforce the rules on certain people/topics. That's why we had mods like Bogart come in and just make bold posts begging people to stop, and then punishing everyone by just locking threads universally, instead of actually dealing with any bad actors

    I would ask you the source of that information? And if anyone else would care to verify the accuracy of it? Because unless something has gone very strange on this it would not be something you have first hand knowledge of.

    From PMs with various active D&D mods at the time. I think I talked with most of them who weren't bogart and elki at one point or another

    So it was from ElJeffe then? He has stated repeatedly that he was the only active D&D mod at the time. I just want to make sure I have the facts right here. I am still curious if anyone who was there can confirm. Second hand knowledge has limits.

    This was while there were still other active mods, it was well before geebs went out for smokes and never came back the first time, even.

    Well I will await confirmation or denial from other mods of the time. I do wonder why you dodged my direct question but that is ok. ElJeffe's own statements paint a picture on that one. Not that I think telling people something like that is super scandalous. I am just trying to make sure we get all of the facts straight.

    I'm not going to dig through years old PMs to create a 20 page manifesto if that's what you're asking for.

    But if we want to talk about mods doing shit to "maintain the peace", there's plenty of that going around with the current staff. In this very thread even.

    do you care to expand on this in a way that makes it actually helpful or are you just trying to equivocate?

    which people running for the board (which this thread is about) are unfit and why?

    Houk on
  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    Yes.

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Solysp wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    Yes.

    Extremely yes. This was a lot more emotionally draining than I anticipated. I'd still have run had I known, but dang.

    I have no idea what you mean. No part of this long and arduous process has been even remotely emotionally draining.

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    lil bit

    are YOU on the beer list?
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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    Romanian My Escutcheon wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    The rules in D&D under Jeffe's tenure were not uniformly enforced.

    Jeffe has stated before that in his philosophy as moderator, "keeping the peace," that is to say, keeping the majority of posters placated, is more important than who is actually right about something.

    Which very neatly explains why he would shut down minority posters who got heated when the "normal" posters were being indifferent or even outright hostile regarding minority groups.

    Which explains why, when someone who is outspoken about issues in ways unpopular with the general consensus but does so following all the rules, new rules are put in place so that they can be punished for the crime of speaking unpopular truths.

    Yes, under Geebs, D&D mods were explictly told that they couldn't enforce the rules on certain people/topics. That's why we had mods like Bogart come in and just make bold posts begging people to stop, and then punishing everyone by just locking threads universally, instead of actually dealing with any bad actors

    I would ask you the source of that information? And if anyone else would care to verify the accuracy of it? Because unless something has gone very strange on this it would not be something you have first hand knowledge of.

    From PMs with various active D&D mods at the time. I think I talked with most of them who weren't bogart and elki at one point or another

    So it was from ElJeffe then? He has stated repeatedly that he was the only active D&D mod at the time. I just want to make sure I have the facts right here. I am still curious if anyone who was there can confirm. Second hand knowledge has limits.

    This was while there were still other active mods, it was well before geebs went out for smokes and never came back the first time, even.

    Well I will await confirmation or denial from other mods of the time. I do wonder why you dodged my direct question but that is ok. ElJeffe's own statements paint a picture on that one. Not that I think telling people something like that is super scandalous. I am just trying to make sure we get all of the facts straight.

    I'm not going to dig through years old PMs to create a 20 page manifesto if that's what you're asking for.

    But if we want to talk about mods doing shit to "maintain the peace", there's plenty of that going around with the current staff. In this very thread even.

    I think something that would go a long way towards maintaining the peace is if you'd stop grasping at straws in a vain attempt to invalidate years of receipts indicating a pattern of abuse and harassment on Jeffe's part.

    Especially since it makes you look really hypocritical when you apparently can't even produce a DM to back up your statement.

    Gee, can't imagine why anyone would feel intimidated about sharing their experiences here.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Quid wrote: »
    Romanian My Escutcheon wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    The rules in D&D under Jeffe's tenure were not uniformly enforced.

    Jeffe has stated before that in his philosophy as moderator, "keeping the peace," that is to say, keeping the majority of posters placated, is more important than who is actually right about something.

    Which very neatly explains why he would shut down minority posters who got heated when the "normal" posters were being indifferent or even outright hostile regarding minority groups.

    Which explains why, when someone who is outspoken about issues in ways unpopular with the general consensus but does so following all the rules, new rules are put in place so that they can be punished for the crime of speaking unpopular truths.

    Yes, under Geebs, D&D mods were explictly told that they couldn't enforce the rules on certain people/topics. That's why we had mods like Bogart come in and just make bold posts begging people to stop, and then punishing everyone by just locking threads universally, instead of actually dealing with any bad actors

    I would ask you the source of that information? And if anyone else would care to verify the accuracy of it? Because unless something has gone very strange on this it would not be something you have first hand knowledge of.

    From PMs with various active D&D mods at the time. I think I talked with most of them who weren't bogart and elki at one point or another

    So it was from ElJeffe then? He has stated repeatedly that he was the only active D&D mod at the time. I just want to make sure I have the facts right here. I am still curious if anyone who was there can confirm. Second hand knowledge has limits.

    This was while there were still other active mods, it was well before geebs went out for smokes and never came back the first time, even.

    Well I will await confirmation or denial from other mods of the time. I do wonder why you dodged my direct question but that is ok. ElJeffe's own statements paint a picture on that one. Not that I think telling people something like that is super scandalous. I am just trying to make sure we get all of the facts straight.

    I'm not going to dig through years old PMs to create a 20 page manifesto if that's what you're asking for.

    But if we want to talk about mods doing shit to "maintain the peace", there's plenty of that going around with the current staff. In this very thread even.

    I think something that would go a long way towards maintaining the peace is if you'd stop grasping at straws in a vain attempt to invalidate years of receipts indicating a pattern of abuse and harassment on Jeffe's part.

    Especially since it makes you look really hypocritical when you apparently can't even produce a DM to back up your statement.

    Gee, can't imagine why anyone would feel intimidated about sharing their experiences here.

    I would much prefer if this whole sidebar ended now. If there is something to discuss about the existing candidates and their positions, we still have a few hours until polls close

    Anyone not discussing the Board election after this post will receive an infraction

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    initiatefailure wrote: »
    minor incident wrote: »
    Solysp wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    Yes.

    Extremely yes. This was a lot more emotionally draining than I anticipated. I'd still have run had I known, but dang.

    I have no idea what you mean. No part of this long and arduous process has been even remotely emotionally draining.

    But is there a singular gif that captures your mental and emotional state in this process

    I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about.

    tenor.gif

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    yeah I understand the impulse but if I don't see the results right away I might actually die

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    I sort of assumed the round-by-round was just all calculated instantly. Like you hit a button and it does it all at once, bibbity-bobbity-boo.

    I would find all the mathy details super interesting, though.

    Would you say I had a plethora of pinatas?

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    I also saw it mentioned that the full results (anonymized by PIN so we can verify our own votes were captured correctly I think?) would be publicized so anyone could validate that STV was working and votes were transferred to new candidates as expected.

    Is this the case / still the case?

  • HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    Ahh, but they'd have to find you first.

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  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    I also saw it mentioned that the full results (anonymized by PIN so we can verify our own votes were captured correctly I think?) would be publicized so anyone could validate that STV was working and votes were transferred to new candidates as expected.

    Is this the case / still the case?

    I actually don't know if it is. We've only run the one non-secure election before we used the PIN/registration system, and there's obviously no PINs to track with that, so I don't know exactly what it surfaces with the secure election we've done. Will definitely share what it offers, though!

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    initiatefailure wrote: »
    minor incident wrote: »
    Solysp wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    Yes.

    Extremely yes. This was a lot more emotionally draining than I anticipated. I'd still have run had I known, but dang.

    I have no idea what you mean. No part of this long and arduous process has been even remotely emotionally draining.

    But is there a singular gif that captures your mental and emotional state in this process

    sigh-exhale.gif

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    I sort of assumed the round-by-round was just all calculated instantly. Like you hit a button and it does it all at once, bibbity-bobbity-boo.

    I would find all the mathy details super interesting, though.

    During my wife's elections people on social media were making those cool Sankey flow diagrams for the preference flows.
    I didn't bookmark any of them though, and fuck trawling through 2022 posts on Xwitter to find them.

    X-Com LP Thread I, II, III, IV, V
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  • godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    godmode was warned for this.
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    minor incident wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    I'd love the results to come out round by round, just to get an idea of the system in motion rather than just getting the result first, then the breakdown.
    But that's just my kink for election night talking.

    I think people would murder me if the final results weren't the first thing up, but I'll definitely also include the round-by-round for anyone who wants to follow it through to the conclusion.

    I sort of assumed the round-by-round was just all calculated instantly. Like you hit a button and it does it all at once, bibbity-bobbity-boo.

    I would find all the mathy details super interesting, though.

    Oh hey @ElJeffe you’re still here! You got so quiet I thought you were just done with PA or something.
    So did you just decide to skip over the last couple questions as follow-ups to your “confession” because you don’t care, or because you don’t think the answers matter anymore now that voting is almost done?

    Hahnsoo1 on
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
    edited April 8
    [Deleted User] was warned for this.
    The user and all related content has been deleted.

    Hahnsoo1 on
  • DelzhandDelzhand Coin Return Admin Registered User, Transition Team regular
    I just queued up the final batch of voting codes. There were only 10 new users, so all codes should be sent in the next 20 minutes.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    In about six hours, give or take.

  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    A quick google search threw up this site for voting visualisations?:

    https://www.rcvis.com/

    Open Source, needs account to create chart, can apparently import from OpaVote.

    Might help people see how it worked out and understand the results.

    Fishman on
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  • Atlas in ChainsAtlas in Chains Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    I have a hard time really getting to know more than 5 or 6 posters at a time since we are all just avatars. It's impossible for me to feel like I can wrap my head around all of the candidates, and because of this, I had no plans to vote. I decided to read through @Sir Fabulous's google doc anyway and my mind was changed. I was able to quickly identify 3 candidates with whom I felt strongly aligned. Once I had 3, I was committed. The 4th and 5th took more consideration, but I finally got 2 more that I would be comfortable getting my vote. I was unable to rank the other candidates beyond 5, which I regret. It has nothing to do with fitness for the job, only my comfort level putting my stamp on candidates I felt I could not fully understand.

    Thank you, Sir Fabulous. I would highly encourage any poster with a similar mindset to at least read the doc, even just the questions that seem important to you, in the waning hours of the election. I am so thankful that I will always know that I put in my 2 cents for Coin Return's future.

    Atlas in Chains on
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  • HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    A quick google search threw up this site for voting visualisations?:

    https://www.rcvis.com/

    Open Source, needs account to create chart, can apparently import from OpaVote.

    Might help people see how it worked out and understand the results.

    This looks pretty good

    1] Wap the OptVote JSON in
    2] Get a sankey graph back
    3] ???
    4] Profit.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Interesting...what would even be the raw data input for a Sankey of a Meek STV election?

    For my two cents the best visualizations are probably the simplest:
    • A basic table indicating how many people voted for a given permutation of candidates
    • A series of horizontal bar charts, one per round. Give each winning candidate a color, then highlight where their surplus votes go each round.

  • ToxTox I kill threads Dilige, et quod vis facRegistered User regular
    Vanilla has the chance to do the funniest thing ...

    maybe the real panopticon was the friends we made along the way
  • minor incidentminor incident publicly subsidized! privately profitable!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Voting is closed. Election results are in:
    9o96qtt0rgbi.png


    they'll be up in a new thread as soon as I humanly can.

    Hell, New Jersey, it said on the letter. Delivered without comment. So be it!
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  • AmberAmber Registered User regular
    how dare you

  • ThisThis Registered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Final question for all candidates

    Are you sick to death of answering a million random questions and ready for this to be fucking over with so we can congratulate the losers and console the winners?

    For real, props to all the candidates. People were grilling you like it was a senate confirmation hearing for director of the friggin CIA. "What is your opinion on the Palestinian genocide", jesus christ.

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