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Board of Directors Election Results - 2025

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Amber wrote: »
    What is the process for recalling a manifestly unfit board member who sleazed his way in.

    KD04-C: Process for Community Removal of Governance Position Member

    The removal of a member from the Board of Directors can be completed via the following two methods:
    Board of Directors Initiated
    A member of the Board of Directors may propose the removal of a Director, DEIA Director, or President at a Board of Directors meeting.
    A different member of the Board of Directors must second the proposal.
    The Board of Directors will vote on the proposal, requiring a Voting Supermajority to pass.
    If the proposal passes, the Director, DEIA Director, or President will be immediately removed from their position.
    Community Initiated
    A Member of the Coin Return Society may post a petition to solicit approvals.
    If the petition receives enough approvals to meet the Quorum Threshold (20% of active daily users) within a two-week period, the Board of Directors is required to review the petition.
    Upon reviewing the petition, the Board of Directors may follow the process in (1) above.

    The removal of an Executive Officer from their position can only be completed by the Board of Directors in process (1) above.

    If a member of the Board of Directors has committed misconduct pursuant to KD09, the voting threshold for removal is lowered to a Voting Majority.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    Amber wrote: »
    What is the process for recalling a manifestly unfit board member who sleazed his way in.

    You mean the democratic process we just underwent, in which your peers disagreed with you? That's sleazed?

    That he also lit up by comming in and claiming that being held to account for his ethical breaches was "Blackmail". Which, agian, resulted in at least 4 breakdowns i'm aware of, and one other case of sustained harssment that i know of. That sleaze.

    And frankly, id' be holding anyone who acted like that to account.

    I think we also fundamentally disagree on the whole "ethical breach thing" too. "Former mod is permitted by administration - like all other former mods if they wanted - to retain access to mod forums" is not an issue that I really care about at all, as a scandal it doesn't rate. Go blow up at hahn/echo for making those decisions

    Well we all voted overwhelmingly yes on rules specifically crafted to prevent the things he did with that access because we recognized they were abuses of power that should not be possible in our system. There are very few of us here who can point to a rule that exists because we fucked up personally.

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  • AmberAmber Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    Amber wrote: »
    What is the process for recalling a manifestly unfit board member who sleazed his way in.

    You mean the democratic process we just underwent, in which your peers disagreed with you? That's sleazed?

    That he also lit up by comming in and claiming that being held to account for his ethical breaches was "Blackmail". Which, agian, resulted in at least 4 breakdowns i'm aware of, and one other case of sustained harssment that i know of. That sleaze.

    And frankly, id' be holding anyone who acted like that to account.

    I think we also fundamentally disagree on the whole "ethical breach thing" too. "Former mod is permitted by administration - like all other former mods if they wanted - to retain access to mod forums" is not an issue that I really care about at all, as a scandal it doesn't rate. Go blow up at hahn/echo for making those decisions

    You have to understand that, if an admin had also applied for the board after collaborating with jeffe to intentionally deceive the community, he would have been similarly criticized.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Who had the over/under at 4 minutes before asking a winner to resign?

    At the second most popular candidate on the first ballot too.

    Lot of people voted for Bill Clinton and he was an abuser too.

  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm honestly amazed, given this forum's history to Not Stop Joking Around For One Fucking Second that there wasn't a single joke vote for Disco11 after they withdrew. I was expecting at least 15% Disco11 joke/throwaway votes.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Folks, you have every right to be upset at the results of the election and to make that displeasure known. But per our Rules and Code of Conduct, we will not allow you to make personal attacks against large swaths of the forum population.

    You're one of the people who abetted the behaviour.

  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Folks, you have every right to be upset at the results of the election and to make that displeasure known. But per our Rules and Code of Conduct, we will not allow you to make personal attacks against large swaths of the forum population.

    Just to weigh in here, Hahns is absolutely correct here. Your feelings on these results are valid and extremely fair, and communicating that is understandable. But please, don't resort to personal attacks; we're all better than that.

  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    If Jeffe genuinely wants to help create a better tomorrow, than ignoring the things he has done and the people he has wronged is not the way to do so.

    That he has seemingly no intention to hold himself accountable is very disappointing.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    Congrats to everyone who won and thank you to everyone who didn't but put in this much effort for the community.

    I see a bunch of folk who are going to put in the best effort to serve this community and look forward to their choices for DEIA / President and then moderation staff as we move forward on CoRe.

    It's been a hell of a few weeks and I feel like this is the biggest step towards moving forward we've had in a while.

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  • SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    As someone who has followed this since the molotov cocktail was thrown on the process, and who doesn't post a tonne...

    Jeffe, I barely knew about you before this election, but your actions in the past two weeks have shown you to be a person with an almost impossible level of self-importance. The fact that you consider your own position of power more important than the health of this community is nakedly clear. I hope the new forum survives you, because it's a good place and it deserves better.

    You should resign immediately.

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  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Congrats to @Gnizmo for becoming DEI officer.
    I've added this information to Minor's second post.

  • qwer12qwer12 Registered User regular
    @Dibbit @minor incident wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

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  • KnightKnight Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    that anyone in this us based forum is making an appeal to buh buh buh he got a lot of votes as though democracy is some perfect arbiter of goodness and truth needs to look out the fucking window for 2 seconds.

    jesus christ.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    From KD6
    Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Accessibility Director
    A Member who identifies as a BIPOC and/or QUILTBAG person and is appointed by Directors to the position.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

    I mean, given how that slogan was like the question that was asked the most after the whole Jeffe thing, it does seem pertinent.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

    The question was if the DEIA position should be exclusionary for people who have disabilities, of marginalized ethnicities that don't fall under the LGBTQ / BIPOC umbrella, or other marginalized people.

    Which my understanding is the language was broadened to include other marginalized groups but only after the initial solicitation of applicants.

    Moot point though, looks like since Ahava got on the board Gnizmo is DEIA board member by default once the board ratifies her position.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

    I mean, given how that slogan was like the question that was asked the most after the whole Jeffe thing, it does seem pertinent.

    What slogan? Because I have no idea what you're saying here.

    Also, being blunt: I'm disabled. I'm also queer. I'm white. I want a Quiltbag/BIPOC person in the diversity role. I do not believe someone who is not emmeshed in at least one of those commmunities can provide any useful perspective. Frankly, I'd much prefer we both have a QUILTBAG representative and a BIPOC representative, since a ton of nuance is lost if you're not in those communities, especially around microaggressions and other issues - I regret not voicing that idea earlier, but it only just came to me.

    So. Again. Why is having someone who's not directly involved and part of those communities representing them on the board an idea that's suddenly being brought up? What value does this bring?

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited April 9
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    Dibbit wrote: »
    Congrats to Gnizmo for becoming DEI officer.
    I've added this information to Minor's second post.

    Um, if the board that just got elected all of 15 minutes ago made that appointment I feel this is a bit inappropriate as there was as far as I can find no nomination or public comment period.

    Was keeping this to myself till after the election stuff calmed down, but seeing as that is clearly not going to happen, and apparently the barely constituted board acted instantaneously on this.


    Sorry, I don't believe someone who apparently has an active list of people they are trying to get banned as someone who should be on the board.

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    Quetzi on
  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Profoundly disappointing results

    To the point that I'm not sure i want to continue sharing space with all the people who just showed their whole entire ass by voting for Jeffe

    Might just see myself out

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Every single one of you who voted Jeffe should be ashamed of yourself and you never will be

  • KnightKnight Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Dibbit wrote: »
    Congrats to Gnizmo for becoming DEI officer.
    I've added this information to Minor's second post.

    Um, if the board that just got elected all of 15 minutes ago made that appointment I feel this is a bit inappropriate as there was as far as I can find no nomination or public comment period.

    Was keeping this to myself till after the election stuff calmed down, but seeing as that is clearly not going to happen, and apparently the barely constituted board acted instantaneously on this.


    Sorry, I don't believe someone who apparently has an active list of people they are trying to get banned as someone who should be on the board.

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    legit the saddest post.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    Spoit wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

    I mean, given how that slogan was like the question that was asked the most after the whole Jeffe thing, it does seem pertinent.

    What slogan? Because I have no idea what you're saying here.

    Also, being blunt: I'm disabled. I'm also queer. I'm white. I want a Quiltbag/BIPOC person in the diversity role. I do not believe someone who is not emmeshed in at least one of those commmunities can provide any useful perspective. Frankly, I'd much prefer we both have a QUILTBAG representative and a BIPOC representative, since a ton of nuance is lost if you're not in those communities, especially around microaggressions and other issues - I regret not voicing that idea earlier, but it only just came to me.

    So. Again. Why is having someone who's not directly involved and part of those communities representing them on the board an idea that's suddenly being brought up? What value does this bring?
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    I do agree that it is weird to try to smoosh together GSM representation with racial or religious minorities, since TBH, some of the people who are outspoken about the former are also white as hell and have major blindspots about the later.

    And also, I'd turn it around and ask you why you think only GSM and POC people are the only minorities that have issues that deserve to be covered?

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    Spoit wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    qwer12 wrote: »
    Dibbit "minor incident" wouldn't the board still need to ratify the deia officer even if there's only one candidate?

    Yes, per the doc the position can only be filled by a vote of the board during a meeting

    The board could potentially solicit a second wider round of candidates now that it's clear it's not limited to just LGBTQ / BIPOC candidates as well?

    Why do you think a non Quiltbag/BIPOC candidate is appropriate for a DEI position?

    You're basically saying "Hey, why don't we get some cis white people here!". Which... I'm just going to stare at you, given the repeated discussions that have been had about this forum driving away minority posters.

    So, again, why do you think we should have a non Quiltbag/bipoc candiate?

    I mean, given how that slogan was like the question that was asked the most after the whole Jeffe thing, it does seem pertinent.

    What slogan? Because I have no idea what you're saying here.

    Also, being blunt: I'm disabled. I'm also queer. I'm white. I want a Quiltbag/BIPOC person in the diversity role. I do not believe someone who is not emmeshed in at least one of those commmunities can provide any useful perspective. Frankly, I'd much prefer we both have a QUILTBAG representative and a BIPOC representative, since a ton of nuance is lost if you're not in those communities, especially around microaggressions and other issues - I regret not voicing that idea earlier, but it only just came to me.

    So. Again. Why is having someone who's not directly involved and part of those communities representing them on the board an idea that's suddenly being brought up? What value does this bring?
    From the river to the sea

    I do agree that it is weird to try to smoosh together GSM representation with racial or religious minorities, since TBH, some of the people who are outspoken about the former are also white as hell and have major blindspots about the later.

    And also, I'd turn it around and ask you why you think only GSM and POC people are the only minorities that have issues that deserve to be covered?

    That slogan has been extensively discussed, including that there's no good answers. Gniz has given some very thoughtful insights into it, and i support her take. If you're worried about Jewish representation, she's also Jewish to boot!

    I don't. I would prioritize Quiltbag/BIPOC representation as this is where I've seen the most attacks and abuse on the forum - and I'm speaking from literally getting attacked over my disabilities on this forum before. But fuck, you wanna add more board members to cover disability, and other minorities you feel aren't being covered by BIPOC? Let's fucking go. Let's get a disability board member on there, i'll throw my own hat in the ring (Though I'd frankly prefer someone who has experience with being Deaf/blind/wheelchair bound, as my disabilities are relatively "Minor" relative to what some people go through - though by the same token, i have plenty of experience with what it's like to deal with people not respecting so-called invisible disabilities. Ultimately, mine do not impact my use of the forum, and id be concerned about that as a blindspot). If you feel there's other minorities we're not covering with a BIPOC person, bring them up, let's see what we can do to get them representation then!

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Its just good to see the successful management of DnD rewarded like this.

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I believe Gnizmo has also been open about having disabilities in the past. She's also been heavily involved in the CR planning and design process and is primarily responsible for crafting the new rules, which were ratified by the community. I can't really think of a better qualified person for the position and frankly the immediate knives out for her comes across as just a little sus.

  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Dibbit wrote: »
    Congrats to Gnizmo for becoming DEI officer.
    I've added this information to Minor's second post.

    Um, if the board that just got elected all of 15 minutes ago made that appointment I feel this is a bit inappropriate as there was as far as I can find no nomination or public comment period.

    Was keeping this to myself till after the election stuff calmed down, but seeing as that is clearly not going to happen, and apparently the barely constituted board acted instantaneously on this.


    Sorry, I don't believe someone who apparently has an active list of people they are trying to get banned as someone who should be on the board.

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    Yes I am actively trying to get someone banned. I don't deny this. This is widely known. We have someone who has stalked another member. I will always try to get that person banned. If you feel my hardline stance that stalking is bad is somehow inappropriate well I dunno what to tell you there. The mods can happily confirm this as can many others who have seen me state that is exactly what I meant. I will not discuss this further until action is taken.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Listen, if you want to drive someone off the board the way to do it is harass them endlessly and make it clear they're fair game for abuse. You know, the proper way.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    smof wrote: »
    I believe Gnizmo has also been open about having disabilities in the past. She's also been heavily involved in the CR planning and design process and is primarily responsible for crafting the new rules, which were ratified by the community. I can't really think of a better qualified person for the position and frankly the immediate knives out for her comes across as just a little sus.

    I am a trans femme disabled gay ethnic Jew. I dunno what aspect people feel I am missing other than being white.

    As for a second round I will say what I have been saying for a while. We have to actually do this thing. If I am bad at the job remove me. If I am not let's move on. We have to actually do the thing eventually.

  • qwer12qwer12 Registered User regular
    If people are suggesting we have two deia officers instead of just one, I don't mind that at all. Luckily we have a process for amending our governance!

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    There's a cross section of people who voted for Jeffe and are very mad that Gnizmo said something mean and I think it should be studied for science.

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