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[FF On] Final Fantasy XIII (Versus Agito)

BetaflameBetaflame Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Games and Technology
I do not know why, maybe I was suffering temperary brain death, but I was not excited for the latest installment of the Final Fantasy franchise until very recently. Sadly, a basic search of the forums did not yeild a thread with which to sate my gaming lust. So I thought I might give this thread creation a try...

Final Fantasy XIII - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy_xiii
Jump Festa 2007 revealed that the world of Final Fantasy XIII is based in a government-controlled floating fortress called Cocoon defended by advanced technology. Those cast out of Cocoon are placed into the world below, called Pulse. It is heavily implied that the world of Pulse is the Earth and where the crystals that have "chosen" Lightning are found. These crystals are said to give men the power to change their destinies and shape the world as they see fit. In fact, the crystals were previously used to control the citizens of Pulse to work against their own will. The citizens of Pulse rebelled against the government, asking for a fair treatment of the law.

But what is this, a second version?

Final Fantasy Versus XIII - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII
As with every Final Fantasy, the style of this world is unique, appearing to blend both modern and medieval aesthetics. The main character's country appears as very advanced and modern, as one example, while their neighbors appear to have remained in an era similar to the European Middle Ages. The main power in the world are the Crystals. All the countries (aside from the protagonist's) have had them at one time, only to lose them in continual warfare. They had pooled their resources into weapons, granting them advanced rifles rather than swords and magic. Now, only the main character's country has a Crystal, triggering debate over its use as it is beneficial to the military. Recently, a peace treaty was discussed (Mentioned in the radio in the JF trailer). However, marauders with guns invade the city as the main character battles them, disrupting the peace.

Cell phone gaming? Pish posh, how silly... But I'll be damned if it doesn't look tempting.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Agito_XIII
Final Fantasy Agito XIII (ファイナルファンタジー アギトXIII, Fainaru Fantajī Agito Sātīn?) is a video game for mobile phones which, alongside Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII, makes up the compilation Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy XIII so far. Unveiled at E³ '06, the game "[offers] players easy on-the-go access to the FINAL FANTASY XIII universe. Utilizing gameplay functions only available through mobile phones, this title provides players with a unique take on a story accessible anywhere their real-life adventures may take them." [1]

The game is set in a magic school named Akademia, [2] and will gradually expand to the larger world outside of the school. It is described as an online RPG, but not "massively multiplayer". [3] "Agito" in Latin roughly means "to engage in motion" (and is also the root from which the English "agitate" is derived).


As informed as this forum usually is, I was hoping to hear what else, if anything, we know about these games.

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    Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I don't think a whole lot *is* known. There's constant debate about FFXIII and FFXIII Vs hitting more than just the PS3, but I don't think that's going to happen.

    The early footage of in-game stuff looked pretty intense, and I look forward to seeing/hearing more.

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    JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Trailer for Versus is awesomesauce.

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    BetaflameBetaflame Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Johannen wrote: »
    Trailer for Versus is awesomesauce.

    That trailer pretty much told me that I AM getting a PS3 if this game doesn't come out on 360

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    xraydogxraydog Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Betaflame wrote: »
    Final Fantasy XIII - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy_xiii
    Jump Festa 2007 revealed that the world of Final Fantasy XIII is based in a government-controlled floating fortress called Cocoon defended by advanced technology. Those cast out of Cocoon are placed into the world below, called Pulse. It is heavily implied that the world of Pulse is the Earth and where the crystals that have "chosen" Lightning are found. These crystals are said to give men the power to change their destinies and shape the world as they see fit. In fact, the crystals were previously used to control the citizens of Pulse to work against their own will. The citizens of Pulse rebelled against the government, asking for a fair treatment of the law.


    Wait...that's the basis of the story?

    Dammit why do the stories for FF always have to so annoyingly cliche.

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    Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Betaflame wrote: »
    As informed as this forum usually is, I was hoping to hear what else, if anything, we know about these games.

    What else do we know? Well, XIII will have a battle system that's a cross between Advent Children's crazy stylish action and FFX-2's crazy fast battle system (which btw, is the best battle system FF has ever had).

    Oh yeah, and Shiva turns into a motorbike which sounds awesome to me.

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    gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    xraydog wrote: »
    Dammit why do the stories for FF always have to so annoyingly cliche.
    The plot of every FF game is required by law to revolve around a group of idiosyncratic rebels who fight against an evil technocratic empire with the power of magic crystals. This is just FFXIII's iteration of that plot.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    gtrmp wrote: »
    xraydog wrote: »
    Dammit why do the stories for FF always have to so annoyingly cliche.
    The plot of every FF game is required by law to revolve around a group of idiosyncratic rebels who fight against an evil technocratic empire with the power of magic crystals. This is just FFXIII's iteration of that plot.

    I want FF14 to revolve around an empire that is actually doing the right thing, but the rebels successfully overthrow them.
    Then the world gets fucked and you have to UNdo it. Or at least fuck up the Rebels for ruining your shit.


    It'd explain how you can't just buy the strongest weapons(you come into town, and they only sell you shitty weapons only because they want the business, but as you move up they sell you better shit for proving you're doing the RIGHT thing).

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    cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    and FFX-2's crazy fast battle system (which btw, is the best battle system FF has ever had).

    Quoted for truth. Man, I thought I was the only person who thought this.

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    OneEyedJackOneEyedJack Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    cheez wrote: »
    and FFX-2's crazy fast battle system (which btw, is the best battle system FF has ever had).

    Quoted for truth. Man, I thought I was the only person who thought this.

    It is the best battle system, but no one gave the game a chance anyway.

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    Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    cheez wrote: »
    and FFX-2's crazy fast battle system (which btw, is the best battle system FF has ever had).

    Quoted for truth. Man, I thought I was the only person who thought this.

    It is the best battle system, but no one gave the game a chance anyway.

    People overlooked it because of the Charlie's Angels story but it was a really great game if you gave it a chance. The battle system is fantastic. It's pretty much the normal FF battle system, but on speed and it works so well.

    Muffin Man: They've said that the "heroes" of FFXIII might not necessarily be considered the "good guys" by the general populace.

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    mrgilmoreanmrgilmorean Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The whole Shiva-into-motorbike aspect really worries me. The characters revealed so far are also failing to excite me. This is the first FF I have felt blah about from what I know of it.

    X-2 did have a great battle system but XII still wins out for me.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    FFX-2 is the only ATB system that is actually good.

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    BetaflameBetaflame Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    FFX-2 is the only ATB system that is actually good.

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    jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    X-2 is full of win because of its excellent implementation of the job system. If you've played and didn't every get the Alchemist dressphere, go back and get it. Unlimited X-Potions for the win.

    EDIT: Dark Knights are awesome, too.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I fully expect this game to be about a group of people in their late teens/early twenties (with maybe one person clcoking in at the ripe old age of 28) that rise up against a corrupt religion/government.

    There will be three female characters (one kind-hearted and naive, one happy and hyper, and one no-nonsense serious one) and an indeterminate number of male characters.

    Possibly, one or more extremely powerful characters will join you for a very short period of time. He, she, or they will either be former villains or future villains.

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    cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    jclast wrote: »
    X-2 is full of win because of its excellent implementation of the job system. If you've played and didn't every get the Alchemist dressphere, go back and get it. Unlimited X-Potions for the win.

    EDIT: Dark Knights are awesome, too.

    Alchemist and Dark Knight were great, yeah. But nothing came close to the badassery of the Berserker dressphere, in my opinion.

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    KillaKilla Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Betaflame wrote: »
    As informed as this forum usually is, I was hoping to hear what else, if anything, we know about these games.

    What else do we know? Well, XIII will have a battle system that's a cross between Advent Children's crazy stylish action and FFX-2's crazy fast battle system (which btw, is the best battle system FF has ever had).

    I think the more exciting prospect would be the mixing of FFX-2's ATB hyperactivity with FFXII's MMO-style field encounters. Or I could just say FFXII on meth, yeah.

    And as far as Jobspheres are concerned, Lady Luck+Alchemist+Berserker ftw.

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    BetaflameBetaflame Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I can't say I hated the FFXII battle system, just wasn't for me. FFX-2's is by far my favorite. Sadly it was in a game to cheesy for me to get into.

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I already mentioned how I had high hopes for Versus, based on the dark looking atmosphere from the trailer and the promise that the story would have a real human feel to it, where there are no real heroes or villains, but people with different ideals.

    But then I read an excerpt from the SE Party trailer (the one under closed doors), in which during the opening clash between the main guy and the soldiers, he starts beating down on them with swords, spears, and teleporting; He then grabs one soldier by the arm, breaks it, and uses his own gun against another soldier. After he's done with the ammo, he snaps the soldier's neck.

    That's just a trailer description, but man does that sound cool. "Darkest FF Ever": I believe it.

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    ScabiesScabies The InternetRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Forgive exhuming a long-idle post as an inagural PA-forum experience, but I have been watching the videos on GameTrailers for the past week over and over, and cant help but be stoked beyond control. The music (essence of Dirge of Cerberus/Chrono Cross, but who the hell is the composer?) just keeps running through my head, I'm not sleeping well anymore. Verdammt.
    I am also slightly pessimistic, since the trend these days indicates much more excitement comes during the hype phase than playing the game or enjoying it's story will ever elicit. (personal opinion: halo 2 anyone?) The gameplay looks amazing, and while you can tell what is FMV and what appears to be actively-rendered scenes are distinctly different, we still dont know if its canned.

    Things on wiki not previously mentioned:
    All Final Fantasy XIII games are going to be able to stand independantly: there will be no flagship title, unlike the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII series tying back to the original PSX title. The one common theme they share is this: "the tale of new crystals." Crystals are classically used in the Final Fantasy universe as the sources of creation, more or less. In Final Fantasy XIII, we know one crystal is in the city of Cocoon [evil], which seems to be removed from yet attatched to the world of Pulse [think slums of FFVII] using technology [a-la Floating Continent of FFVI or Zeal from Chrono Trigger during the dark ages], which is either derived from or given by the crystal. Phew!

    Summons are returning, with a possibility of using summons outside of battle for practical things such as transportation, i.e. what appears to be Shiva appears in the form of two more-or-less sisters that merge into a motorcycle. (spam: wtf? lesbian machinophilia? sick japanese and their fetishes) Mention is made of a trailer (which I've never seen) of a publicly unknown brunette female character calling Carbuncle using some kind of data-disc, and someone else has mentioned that all summons are stored digitally, probably in these disk things.

    The description of Lightning, the only protagonist we are any bit familiar with, has been described as either on a mission set by the crystals, or confusingly as "the enemy of humanity who will bring about the downfall of the world." I cant help but think there is some engrish here, it would make more sense saying she is "opposed to anyone who will bring about the downfall of the world, ironically including most of humanity," which makes both descriptions compatable. One source is quoted as saying this strawberry blonde character will not be named Lightning, in spite of existing video using this character name during fight sequences on the status bar. We do not know if she will end up being THE main character, but we do know that character designer Tetsoya Nomura was tasked with making a female version of Cloud Strife for the Final Fantasy XIII series and came up with Lightning. Nomura says she ended up being "not that feminine." She is supposedly able to control gravity using a device triggered by touching her fingertips together. How someone was able to get that out of the trailer is beyond me, but she definately defies physics more than seen in Advent Children.

    Known character #2 comes in the form of a Seipher looking guy with a black bandana that comes to Lightning's rescue riding Shiva (giggle.) He is said to be a giant, or at least comparatively large, but he seems to be of average size compared to the gun he uses, which looks just like every other soldier's. If thats true, the Shivacycle he uses is comprised of human-sized Shivas, btw. At any rate, he is nicknamed "33cm" internally by the FFXIII staff, referring to his massive shoe size. He is described as being cowboy-like, strong (thats deep man), and that his relationship with Lightning is "unusal." Who knows, maybe they're summon-twins. (If they are, I get credit for calling it :P)

    In the same interview, the creators mention considering the sixaxis/dualshock 3 motion sensitivity in design and control, but we are left in the dark as to "what for."

    As for Versus XIII, which has more of a "bad ass" feel, and it has been stated Versus will be much darker. Comparison between trailors indicates versus as being definately more violent, and the protagonist (as far as we know) having a sort of Darth Vader pissed-offness about him. His eyes change color during combat, and he gets his abilities from the crystals power. Anyways, this guy doesn't have a name, but he is a prince, and the last heir to the last kingdom that controls the last Crystal. All the other crystals were either lost or destroyed in the effort to aquire them by force of arms.

    The protagonist has three companions that have been identified. One is seen driving the protagonist in a modern looking Earth RL type luxury sedan, another has a scar on his face (thats exciting), and the third actually carries a weapon: a shotgun, reportedly in violation of weapons bans in his country. Two enemies have been revealed, a blonde rapier weilding chick described as an "unfortunate enemy to [protagonist]" whose allegience is likely to change, and a guy dressed in all white, likely an intentional contrast between himself and the protagonist. Also, we know of an older man with eyes similar to [protagonist]'s, whether due to blood relation or a "Mako-eyes" effect, we dont know.

    The team developing Versus XIII is the same one that brought us Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Tetsuyo Nomura said that the game may share some elements with projects the team has previously worked on, but should not be considered any sort of combination of the two (which doesnt make sense anyways, unless Sephiroth is coming back again.) He says that the team's Kingdom Hearts background will likely have more of an effect on the battle system than anything else, but will still very much stand on its own. In the same breath, he says that XIII will be fairly traditional by way of Final Fantasy evolution, whereas versus will be rich grounds for experimentation. This makes sense with other wiki material mentioning that Versus was not intended as a Final Fantasy title at all, and could never receive its own number (i.e. FFXIV)

    Then theres the Mobile one, but let me say just one thing about seeing that game in North America: Razr.

    Along with the scant details for each game comes the lack of a release date. These games have no release date so hard that Square-Enix has come out to repeatedly shoot down every declaration of one having been decided.

    Interview with some of the game's creators
    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151333

    Final Fantasy XIII wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII

    Final Fantasy Versus XIII wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII

    Final Fantasy Agito XIII wikipedia (the mobile game)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Agito_XIII

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I fully expect this game to be about a group of people in their late teens/early twenties (with maybe one person clcoking in at the ripe old age of 28) that rise up against a corrupt religion/government.

    There will be three female characters (one kind-hearted and naive, one happy and hyper, and one no-nonsense serious one) and an indeterminate number of male characters.

    Possibly, one or more extremely powerful characters will join you for a very short period of time. He, she, or they will either be former villains or future villains.
    And there will be some really strange an awkwardly-plotted romantic scene that's supposed to make you root for the main character and his (or her...oh, what am I kidding? The main character's gonna be a dude...at least technically) love interest.

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    BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Scabies wrote: »
    Forgive exhuming a long-idle post as an inagural PA-forum experience, but I have been watching the videos on GameTrailers for the past week over and over, and cant help but be stoked beyond control. The music (essence of Dirge of Cerberus/Chrono Cross, but who the hell is the composer?)
    The composer to Xenogears/Chrono Cross/Chrono Trigger and others is Yasunori Mitsuda.

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    Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The Shiva motorcycle duality is a reference to Shiva being the God (not Goddess, silly Final Fantasy) of Creation and Destruction. Light and dark. Yin and yang. Etc.

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    DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    You know, I am still not 100% convinced that Lightning is female. Until we get absolute conclusive proof otherwise

    Hint:
    :winky:

    I'm going to assume that this is Square taking the androgynous whiny douchebag protagonist to it's next logical step.

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