God, if only they could save Sonic from the pile of drivel it's become like they did with Star Wars.
You know, that would be hilarious. All the reviews rating it as clearly superior to all the recent Sonic games and saying it's on par with Sonic 2 and 3 in terms of quality...
This, uh. This could be awesome considering it's being done by Bioware, but I can't think of an existing video game character less suited to a full-out RPG than Sonic.
Mario.
Mario isn't known for speed. Neither are RPGs.
So? It's goddamn Bioware. This ensures it's going to be at least good if not awesome.
But what the hey, let's all shit over a game we know nothing about except the developer and the genre, even though the developer happens to be really fucking good about making games in that genre.
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I'm not shitting over the game, I'm expressing skepticism. Like I said, Bioware is an awesome company, and I love their output. But I'm concerned that Sonic won't translate well. Yes, I realize other classic characters have made the jump, but I'm a bit worried that we won't have the freedom to tear through the landscape as Sonic does best.
Shitting on the game would be "OMG this game is teh suxors," which I haven't gotten anywhere near.
I can almost guarantee you now that you won't be tearing through the landscape in this. Its an RPG. With Sonic. Anyone who buys it thinking they're going to get a Sonic platformer is dumb. Hence the letters RPG in the title.
DS is the king of Cinderella stories and Hail Mary plays. I've seen the resurgence of adventure gaming, a renewed interest in 2-D gameplay and the revival of old franchises.
DS is the king of Cinderella stories and Hail Mary plays. I've seen the resurgence of adventure gaming, a renewed interest in 2-D gameplay and the revival of old franchises.
Bring it on, I say.
Wouldn't it be funny if the game sells like crazy, they make another sequel that sells like crazy, and Sonic effectively becomes an RPG series?
DS is the king of Cinderella stories and Hail Mary plays. I've seen the resurgence of adventure gaming, a renewed interest in 2-D gameplay and the revival of old franchises.
Bring it on, I say.
Wouldn't it be funny if the game sells like crazy, they make another sequel that sells like crazy, and Sonic effectively becomes an RPG series?
Then the formula becomes stale by the 4th installment and they decide to bring it to consoles in 3D but it's riddled with camera problems and forgettable to passionnate-hate-inducing sidekicks and it has atrocious voice acting and then they give Shadow his own spin-off and he has a gun and OH GOD IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN.
1) Nobody baffled by this concept is baffled because Sonic is a sidescrolling game.
2) Nobody is being clever or smart by drawing parallels to the half dozen mario RPG games out there. Everyone who read the thread title thought of that before they even clicked on the link. You are not being clever by posting a picture of a mario RPG cover.
The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast and turn it into an interesting RPG. At least a fun one that captures any part of the character. I don't see this being much more than a reskinned mario RPG if they go with turn based combat. It would be about as exciting as taking mario RPG and replacing jump with spin jump and hammer with spin dash.
Making this game more than a 'me too' kind of game piggy backing on the Mario RPG game successes of the past will be a real challenge. I am interested in seing what they do with it, although probably not interested in the game itself. Everything outside of the the genesis games, everything I have seen that has involved sonic has been awful IMO.
This is weird... then again I don't think Bioware would be on board for this if they didn't have a good idea of how it could be fun and somewhat true to Sonic's speed.
This is weird... then again I don't think Bioware would be on board for this if they didn't have a good idea of how it could be fun and somewhat true to Sonic's speed.
The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast
By all his games so far I hope you meant up until about Sonic 3 after which they decided to slow it down, throw in a bunch of pointless characters, give everyone horrible voice overs, and repeat ad nauseum.
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The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast
By all his games so far I hope you meant up until about Sonic 3 after which they decided to slow it down, throw in a bunch of pointless characters, give everyone horrible voice overs, and repeat ad nauseum.
I'll actually go insane the next time someone suggests that games like Sonic Advance or Rush are slower than Sonic 1.
The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast
By all his games so far I hope you meant up until about Sonic 3 after which they decided to slow it down, throw in a bunch of pointless characters, give everyone horrible voice overs, and repeat ad nauseum.
I'll actually go insane the next time someone suggests that games like Sonic Advance or Rush are slower than Sonic 1.
The handheld Sonic games weren't even developed by Sonic Team. It seems like everyone else is doing their best to save Sonic. Except Sega.
It's certainly an odd idea, but I have total faith in Bioware to make it work and deliver a good RPG. It's especially exciting for me because it's on DS.
The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast
By all his games so far I hope you meant up until about Sonic 3 after which they decided to slow it down, throw in a bunch of pointless characters, give everyone horrible voice overs, and repeat ad nauseum.
I'll actually go insane the next time someone suggests that games like Sonic Advance or Rush are slower than Sonic 1.
But they didn't have blast processing!:!:
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maybe the premise of the story has you injected with some kind of roboticizing virus, and you can choose to give into it and do evil things and slowly become a robot, or fight it and be all heroic and crud.
So basically all the lame cutscenes of sonic rush....without the gameplay.
yeah...pass
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
So basically all the lame cutscenes of sonic rush....without the gameplay.
yeah...pass
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
Apparently retarded = has a different opinion than Furu.
And Jade Empire (which I liked) didn't sell well. Check your facts.
My friend's cousin works for Sega and Bioware and Nintendo and he told me the title of the game will be "Sonic the Hedgehog RPG: Legend of the 7 Rings"
I'm kidding
or am I?
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So basically all the lame cutscenes of sonic rush....without the gameplay.
yeah...pass
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
Apparently retarded = has a different opinion than Furu.
And Jade Empire (which I liked) didn't sell well. Check your facts.
No, retarded is apparently deciding what this game will be like despite having a good developer and knowing nothing about it other than it's being worked on and will probably be out in 2008.
And I think the fact that I used the word "a billion" shows I'm not exactly being literal and factual in my statements.
At the point I'm really only interested in this game because of how fucking weird the situation is. Totally took me by surprise, and that alone is enough to have me keeping an eye on the progress.
So basically all the lame cutscenes of sonic rush....without the gameplay.
yeah...pass
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
Apparently retarded = has a different opinion than Furu.
And Jade Empire (which I liked) didn't sell well. Check your facts.
No, retarded is apparently deciding what this game will be like despite having a good developer and knowing nothing about it other than it's being worked on and will probably be out in 2008.
By that logic, automatically assuming it will be a fun game is equally retarded. Good game companies can release bad games especially when reaching out to unfamiliar game types, and a lot of people hated Jade Empire.
Back on topic, I wonder what kind of mutation of RPG this game will be.
Hmm I'm intrigued, partially by the idea of an RPG based Sonic game but mostly because Bioware are very good at delivering deep, compelling and dark plots for thier games. I'm kind of hoping that they ignore the last 7 years of green eyed surfer dude Sonic and go for something in the Fleetway comics style of plotline and character development.
So basically all the lame cutscenes of sonic rush....without the gameplay.
yeah...pass
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
Apparently retarded = has a different opinion than Furu.
And Jade Empire (which I liked) didn't sell well. Check your facts.
No, retarded is apparently deciding what this game will be like despite having a good developer and knowing nothing about it other than it's being worked on and will probably be out in 2008.
By that logic, automatically assuming it will be a fun game is equally retarded. Good game companies can release bad games especially when reaching out to unfamiliar game types, and a lot of people hated Jade Empire.
Back on topic, I wonder what kind of mutation of RPG this game will be.
Name one Bioware RPG that wasn't good.
And no, Jade Empire doesn't count, even though in the media it is regarded as excellent anyways.
Assuming this will be a fun game is like assuming the next Spielberg film will be good. It's not an opinion, its a goddam given.
Off-topic: Spielberg? Did you not see AI? War of the Worlds?
On-topic: Why doesn't Jade Empire count? It's a BioWare RPG. You can't take an example of a shit game out, and then throw good ones in everyone's face and say "find something bad!"
If they made a SATAM based RPG with some of the Archie comic stuff thrown into the mix one of my childhood fantasies would be coming true and I'd buy 200 copies.
Off-topic: Spielberg? Did you not see AI? War of the Worlds?
On-topic: Why doesn't Jade Empire count? It's a BioWare RPG. You can't take an example of a shit game out, and then throw good ones in everyone's face and say "find something bad!"
JAde Empire was classed as an Action RPG.
Both by Bioware and by the media. There is a difference. About the same difference as Oblivion and Counter Strike. 'Both are first person lolz'
And AI was kinda meh, but War of the World was great.
And Spielberg has more than enough credibility from Indy -> present day to basically mean he cant fail. Shit, even the Terminal or Catch me if You Can were fun and enjoyable. But thats offtopic. Check film review sites to see how you're wrong on the reviews.
Off-topic: Spielberg? Did you not see AI? War of the Worlds?
On-topic: Why doesn't Jade Empire count? It's a BioWare RPG. You can't take an example of a shit game out, and then throw good ones in everyone's face and say "find something bad!"
JAde Empire was classed as an Action RPG.
Both by Bioware and by the media. There is a difference. About the same difference as Oblivion and Counter Strike. 'Both are first person lolz'
And AI was kinda meh, but War of the World was great.
And Spielberg has more than enough credibility from Indy -> present day to basically mean he cant fail. Shit, even the Terminal or Catch me if You Can were fun and enjoyable. But thats offtopic. Check film review sites to see how you're wrong on the reviews.
Man I'll agree that Jade Empire is different from KoToR but nowhere near as different as Oblivion to fucking Counter-Strike.
And AI was kinda meh, but War of the World was great.
And Spielberg has more than enough credibility from Indy -> present day to basically mean he cant fail. Shit, even the Terminal or Catch me if You Can were fun and enjoyable. But thats offtopic. Check film review sites to see how you're wrong on the reviews.
Hardly what I would call glowing reviews. Though I did enjoy Catch Me If You Can.
And how is comparing Oblivion to Counter-Strike proving anything? I was comparing an RPG to an action RPG, made by the same company. I don't think that's unfair. And who's to say that this Sonic game won't actually be an action RPG? It would be more befitting of the speed of the character.
The multiplayer, user-created persistent worlds were solid gold, but yes, singleplayer? Rather crappy. Even with the expansions. Though I trust Bioware to at least produce something quality with a Sonic RPG even if the entire premise is weird.
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You know, that would be hilarious. All the reviews rating it as clearly superior to all the recent Sonic games and saying it's on par with Sonic 2 and 3 in terms of quality...
People at Sega would be all
Bring it on, I say.
Wouldn't it be funny if the game sells like crazy, they make another sequel that sells like crazy, and Sonic effectively becomes an RPG series?
Then the formula becomes stale by the 4th installment and they decide to bring it to consoles in 3D but it's riddled with camera problems and forgettable to passionnate-hate-inducing sidekicks and it has atrocious voice acting and then they give Shadow his own spin-off and he has a gun and OH GOD IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN.
MISS!
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FUCKING USELESS!
2) Nobody is being clever or smart by drawing parallels to the half dozen mario RPG games out there. Everyone who read the thread title thought of that before they even clicked on the link. You are not being clever by posting a picture of a mario RPG cover.
The confusion is how you would take a character whose pretty much sole defining characteristic in all their games so far has been that he runs really really fast and turn it into an interesting RPG. At least a fun one that captures any part of the character. I don't see this being much more than a reskinned mario RPG if they go with turn based combat. It would be about as exciting as taking mario RPG and replacing jump with spin jump and hammer with spin dash.
Making this game more than a 'me too' kind of game piggy backing on the Mario RPG game successes of the past will be a real challenge. I am interested in seing what they do with it, although probably not interested in the game itself. Everything outside of the the genesis games, everything I have seen that has involved sonic has been awful IMO.
I am definately not the target audience.
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yeah...pass
Sonic is creeped out!
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Hedgehogs of the Old Republic? Back when there were many fast hedgehogs...
Maybe a Sithbot will kill all of Sonic's shitty friends.
By all his games so far I hope you meant up until about Sonic 3 after which they decided to slow it down, throw in a bunch of pointless characters, give everyone horrible voice overs, and repeat ad nauseum.
I'll actually go insane the next time someone suggests that games like Sonic Advance or Rush are slower than Sonic 1.
The handheld Sonic games weren't even developed by Sonic Team. It seems like everyone else is doing their best to save Sonic. Except Sega.
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Red speed shoes - 10 rings - speed +1
Red speedier shoes - 20 rings - speed +2
Red speediest shoes - 40 rings - speed +3
White Gloves - 10 rings - Doesn't do shit.
Yes, that's exactly what this will be. Clearly Bioware has no idea what they're doing after making consistently good RPGs for a decade. KOTOR? Baldur's Gate? All flukes. They agreed to this solely because they need the money, because their last few games certainly didn't sell a billion copies.
My God the amount of retarded in this thread is staggering.
Apparently retarded = has a different opinion than Furu.
And Jade Empire (which I liked) didn't sell well. Check your facts.
No, retarded is apparently deciding what this game will be like despite having a good developer and knowing nothing about it other than it's being worked on and will probably be out in 2008.
And I think the fact that I used the word "a billion" shows I'm not exactly being literal and factual in my statements.
At the point I'm really only interested in this game because of how fucking weird the situation is. Totally took me by surprise, and that alone is enough to have me keeping an eye on the progress.
By that logic, automatically assuming it will be a fun game is equally retarded. Good game companies can release bad games especially when reaching out to unfamiliar game types, and a lot of people hated Jade Empire.
Back on topic, I wonder what kind of mutation of RPG this game will be.
Name one Bioware RPG that wasn't good.
And no, Jade Empire doesn't count, even though in the media it is regarded as excellent anyways.
Assuming this will be a fun game is like assuming the next Spielberg film will be good. It's not an opinion, its a goddam given.
On-topic: Why doesn't Jade Empire count? It's a BioWare RPG. You can't take an example of a shit game out, and then throw good ones in everyone's face and say "find something bad!"
Especially if it's sprite based.
JAde Empire was classed as an Action RPG.
Both by Bioware and by the media. There is a difference. About the same difference as Oblivion and Counter Strike. 'Both are first person lolz'
And AI was kinda meh, but War of the World was great.
And Spielberg has more than enough credibility from Indy -> present day to basically mean he cant fail. Shit, even the Terminal or Catch me if You Can were fun and enjoyable. But thats offtopic. Check film review sites to see how you're wrong on the reviews.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war_of_the_worlds/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminal/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ai_artificial_intelligence/
Hardly what I would call glowing reviews. Though I did enjoy Catch Me If You Can.
And how is comparing Oblivion to Counter-Strike proving anything? I was comparing an RPG to an action RPG, made by the same company. I don't think that's unfair. And who's to say that this Sonic game won't actually be an action RPG? It would be more befitting of the speed of the character.
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Neverwinter Nights.
The multiplayer, user-created persistent worlds were solid gold, but yes, singleplayer? Rather crappy. Even with the expansions. Though I trust Bioware to at least produce something quality with a Sonic RPG even if the entire premise is weird.
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Jade Empire was mediocre.