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I beat Dragon Quest yesterday

PataPata Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Games and Technology
So, as you all know the first two Dragon Quest games were ported in a collection on the GBC a while back. Well, I managed to get my hands on Dragon Quest/Warrior and played it for two reasons. One was that I love Dragon Quest VIII and I wanted to see how the series started, and second just because, historically this is a very important game. It's the ancestor of JRPGs, after all.

So I played it. It's a very basic game. You only have yourself, there's very little equipment (and it's rather pricey) and all new skills are magic spells you learn at set levels. Also, random encounters, lots and lots of random encounters. And only one save point, I was so happy when I learned the spell that lets you return to the castle instantly.

My habit of always talking to every NPC served me well in this game, as a lot of them had useful information, some of it vital to actually figuring out what to do!

I only really grinded once, hunting down those Gold Golem monsters to get money to buy the best sheild in the game (it was the last time I actually needed money). Of course, getting lost due to the game pretty much telling you "there is evil afoot, figure out how to smite it" as the sole bit of direction probably helped me a lot. I was overleveled by the end thanks to said getting lost. (after beating it I checked an FAQ and the suggested levels were about 3-4 lower then what mine were at the time). I raped the final boss. :p

I'd say it took me about 20 hours to beat the game over three days. It was strangely addicting. However, I doubt I'll play it again any time soon, it's just too basic, and since I now know where everything is it won't be nearly as interesting, seeing as half the fun was figuring out where to go.

I must admit it had one of the more amusing endings of any video game I've played.
Walking around the world, free of monsters, with everyone in the game telling you how awesome you are? I like.

TL;DR: I played Dragon Quest, I liked it for what it is. Also, this can be a general Dragon Quest talk thread.

Now to play Dragon Quest II!

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Earliest one I've played is Dragon Quest III, which also had a GBC port, which is how I played it. I had a similar experience, except you could create your own companions to adventure with you out of lots of character classes, and stuff like that.

    Overall I thought it was an excellent game.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You only grinded once? The entire game is essentially a grind. You can always know where to go by going where the monsters are tough but do not completely rape you.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    You only grinded once? The entire game is essentially a grind. You can always know where to go by going where the monsters are tough but do not completely rape you.
    Heh, that's pretty much how I figured out where I was supposed to go in III as well :lol:

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You need to collect various items to progress

    Loto's Armor and Amulet, the Sun stones, Silver Harp and Rain staff, and I completely missed an entire town for a few hours somehow.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Earthbound had the same type of ending, but everyone had new dialog.

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  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It took me forever to beat this game on the NES when I was a kid. I should go back and play it again to see how long it takes, because I don't really remember much about it. Also, I think DQ II was a lot harder, but again, I was just a kid.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    You only grinded once? The entire game is essentially a grind. You can always know where to go by going where the monsters are tough but do not completely rape you.

    What I mean by "grinding" is "stop, wander around in circles and fight monsters" If I'm trying to do something, like say explore this new area of the overworld, then I don't concider it grinding.

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I've got to sit down and beat II one of these days: it's all right up until you round out the party, but after that I just can't stand keeping up with it.

    But god damn, IV I just can't stop going back to. Best of the series, bar none.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I remember playing a friend's copy of Dragon Warrior way back in the day. I remember he loaned it to some kid who got him like the best sword in the game or something.

    Pointless story. Srsly though the kid got him the sword and then we beat the game.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Wait, was it 3 or 4 where you play as the son/daughter of a previous protagonist, or something like that?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    In II you play as a descendant of the first games hero, heck, I think all the party members are descendants of DQI's hero, at least that's what I'm guessing from what I've played.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm pretty sure I didn't play 2. I guess it was probably 3.

    I remember the world map was shaped like earth, with the same continents and stuff.

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Wait, was it 3 or 4 where you play as the son/daughter of a previous protagonist, or something like that?
    None have you as actual direct kin. Maybe you're thinking of 3 with you being the kid of Ortega.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sorenson wrote: »
    Wait, was it 3 or 4 where you play as the son/daughter of a previous protagonist, or something like that?
    None have you as actual direct kin. Maybe you're thinking of 3 with you being the kid of Ortega.
    That was the one.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ortega makes salsa.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The hydra no likey his salsa

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It saddens me that this series isn't particularly popular here in the states.

    It's fun. :(

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't you have to be max level just to enter the final castle in DQ?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Considering I gained several levels in the final castle I'd assume not.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think you can't beat DQ 1 below a certain level though. Like, people have tried but they absolutely cannot do it and then they gain 1 more level and they win. I can't remember what the minimum level was though.

    Also, I've beaten 1, 2, 7, and 8 and am currently playing 5 but I kind of got side-tracked. And I really tried to play 3 but it actually hit a point of too much grinding. And this is coming from a guy who beat 7, which could require 2-3 hours of grinding a job class. I don't even remember where I was in 3 but it was some dumb dungeon where I had to gain like 5 more levels to survive but the enemies outside were too weak to be worth it and the ones inside were too strong for me to kill. That's when I just said forget it.

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  • hamburger helperhamburger helper Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Pata wrote: »
    Walking around the world, free of monsters, with everyone in the game telling you how awesome you are? I like.

    Then you'll LOVE
    earthbound

    ;-)

    EDIT: Damn you agoaj

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I remember the Knight blocking I think a sword, and him casting Sleep, then proceeding to rape the shit out of me.

    That game made me sad.

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  • Spectral SwallowSpectral Swallow Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I liked the first half of Dragon Warrior 2, but never finished it(I got SOOO raped) part three was too open ended for my taste. But I LOVED 4, you get a freaking heal slime on your team. That rocks.

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  • Tails CorraTails Corra Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I remember me and my brother playing DW1 (although more him than myself), and the tense final battle with the Dragon Lord. Come to think of it though, Gilder is right that it pretty much rounds to a minimal level to complete the game. Having Edrick's Sword helps substantially though.

    Did anyone else die a little on the inside when the translation of Dragon Warroir 4 for PS1 was scrapped? :(
    (Bloody teaser in the back of the DW7 manual)

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I remember the Knight blocking I think a sword, and him casting Sleep, then proceeding to rape the shit out of me.

    That game made me sad.

    Heh, that guardian of Loto's Armor.

    It's best to cast the silencing spell on it. ;)

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    In Dragon Warrior 1, your only two attack spells are HURT and HURTMORE.

    That, alone, is classic.

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  • VargVarg Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Dragon quest 4 was my favorite - I loved the chapter format and once you finish them, you round up all the people and go on the big quest. Even though it was fairly basic....I spent hours with taloon's chapter both in the beginning with running the junky shop and then when you buy your own shop. Loved that chapter to death. I was also a fan of Nara and Mara's chapter - the music was good. Paid a very large amount of money for this game at ebgames way back when I was little......

    Dragon quest 3 was also a great game - seeing your town grow, choosing your own characters and job classes was a blast... and then when you enter the last fourth of the game - loved how it ended.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Dragon Warrior I and II were the only games in the series I completed. I bought VII when it came out a few years ago, but just lost interest about 30 hours into it. I got DQVIII a few weeks ago, but have yet to play it.

    As simple as it was, I really liked the "overworld" music in the original Dragon Warrior.

    Oh man, didn't you actually have to bring up a menu to go up or down stairs?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Not in the remake I played. :P

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SteevL wrote: »
    Oh man, didn't you actually have to bring up a menu to go up or down stairs?


    For NES, yeah.

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  • Tails CorraTails Corra Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Vegan wrote: »
    SteevL wrote: »
    Oh man, didn't you actually have to bring up a menu to go up or down stairs?


    For NES, yeah.

    But at least it had the 'Door' command. The greatest crime of DWII was needing you to enter the item menu, pick the right party member, then pick the right key to open a door.

    Thank goodness that'd been shortened to just pressing 'A' in the remakes.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sorenson wrote: »
    I've got to sit down and beat II one of these days: it's all right up until you round out the party, but after that I just can't stand keeping up with it.

    But god damn, IV I just can't stop going back to. Best of the series, bar none.

    IV and VI are tied for me, but I tend to play VI more often because it's less offensive on the eyes.

    I'd kill to get a copy of the PSX remake of IV though.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Good news everyone!

    I managed to get my hands on Dragon Quest VII! Now I can play every one that's available in english! :D

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  • fdiskcdrivefdiskcdrive Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    FightTest wrote: »
    I remember playing a friend's copy of Dragon Warrior way back in the day. I remember he loaned it to some kid who got him like the best sword in the game or something.

    Pointless story. Srsly though the kid got him the sword and then we beat the game.

    It's not pointless. I remember when I got stuck when I was a kid and I lent the game out to someone I hardly knew so he could get me the sword. I played lots of NES with friends. Do I know you? :P

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Pata wrote: »
    Good news everyone!

    I managed to get my hands on Dragon Quest VII! Now I can play every one that's available in english! :D

    Five months from now make sure you tell us how you liked the first battle.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If IX sells well enough I can pretty much guarantee DS ports for IV-VI.

    I've played through all of them, and that just recently.

    1 is so much fun.
    2 is the hardest
    3 has the best port and a really neat story
    4 is a god damn classic
    5 and 6 are really good, even though the guide I used was pretty light on the story
    7 is long but has interesting classes and a fun mechanic
    8 is legendary

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If IX sells well enough I can pretty much guarantee DS ports for IV-VI.
    I could have sworn I read something about Square-Enix remaking the Dragon Quest games on the DS or something.

    I could also be completely wrong.

    Either way... *crosses fingers*

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  • Kain_HighwindKain_Highwind Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Anybody seen the speed run of DQ1? Absolutely sick.

    I'll try to grab a link when I get off of work.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sorenson wrote: »
    But god damn, IV I just can't stop going back to. Best of the series, bar none.
    To this day it remains my standard of JRPGs. The way the five chapters are set up, the battle AI, the fun and memorable character types ... it's so beautiful. It's dated and ancient and I love those blocky-ass pixels so very much. <3

    Pata, I didn't see you mention it but you absolutely have to try DQ4. There is no GBA remake, sadly, but grab an NES and find a copy (although I think it's still rather pricey on eBay). It's got the classic Dragon Quest trappings, but the way you experience the world through five different chapters — four shorter chapters that focus on the various party members and then the long, final chapter with the Hero you named as he/she goes around the world, rounding up all of the other party members and then suiting up for adventure. It was a very different method of storytelling, at least compared to other NES-era RPGs, which I think is why I love it so much. You don't get as much of that mid-game slowdown and boredom because you're always starting up with new characters every few hours.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, 4 is the best. I absolutely love the story; though it's full of cliches, they don't feel so bad because at least it isn't melodramatic BS, and you know it's probably the start of some video game cliches.

    2 is pretty cool at first, but before endgame it gets really stupid hard. You have to find five or six symbol items by searching in arbitrary locations. Sure, there are hints, but you basically can't do it without a guide. One of them is in a secret area of this tiny building in the middle of nowhere, for example. Ugh.

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