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Does anyone know of any good LCD monitors that work great for gaming? I want something about 20" with a response time fast enough to handle quick twitch FPS games with out ghosting, I also want something with a good viewing angle since I also watch anime and stuff while laying in bed, I won't be at a straight on angle at all times and I know some of the cheaper panels look terrible if you are not directly in front of them.
I don't want to spend $1,000, half that would be good for my budget.
What should I do? I have only used CRTs up until this point, even my HDTV is a massive 36" Sony CRT weighing about 300lbs.
I have a 19" Samsung with 8ms response time that I can't see any ghosting on while I play my nightly rounds of CS:S. Stick to the name brands like Viewsonic, NEC, Samsung, etc. and you really can't lose.
Edit: Forgot that you can get a 20" Widescreen LCD for far less than $1000 anywhere, but I recommend Newegg if you want a good deal and excellent service to boot.
I just got done shopping for an LCD monitor, at first I was worried about getting one that would work for gaming, but then I realized the majority of the LCDs out there now are all at about 5 ms of response time which is just fine for gaming. I know I saw a couple that were specific gaming LCD monitors that had response times of around 3ms or so, but they cost a lot more and I really can't see that 2 ms making a difference.
Should I be concerned about the type of panel used for the display? Some of the hardcore sites get into discussions about what companies make the LCD panels and what technology they use.
What I ended up doing was going to stores around here like Best Buy and what not and checking the monitors out for myself. I read a bit at anandtech.com about LCD reviews and kind of got an idea of what I wanted in a monitor. But mainly what helped me decide was just going to a store looking at the monitors and seeing what kind of picture they actually had, what kind of features they had. Main things I looked for was about a 5ms response time and a nice contrast ratio, I think I ended up with a monitor that has 5ms response time and a 1000:1 contrast ratio. The monitor I got was almost chosen for me cause I wanted some specific things. I wanted a 22 inch widescreen, that could display an HD signal and had component inputs. There were only about 2 monitors around with all that so I ended up getting one by Gateway.
I guess what I would say is decide on basic things like screen size, widescreen or no and then once you got those the field is a lot more narrow and you can start reading about specific monitors you might like.
I also have the Gateway FPD2275W, the 22" widescreen described in Core's post. Yeah, its definitely not bad at all, the problems people have mentioned about it I've noticed but they don't really detract from the things value at all, it is a pretty good monitor, I must say.
Honestly pretty much any recent monitor would work, what you should do is shop around a bit, compare numbers and such as it really just depends on any extra features you might want.
Should I be concerned about the type of panel used for the display? Some of the hardcore sites get into discussions about what companies make the LCD panels and what technology they use.
No, no, no. Unless you care about perfect colour reproduction for photo manipulation, it really doesn't matter what brand your panel is.
LCD technology is good enough now that pretty much any LCD currently in the retail channel will have a decent viewing angle, quick response time, good contrast and reasonably accurate colours. Enough to satisfy even the most demanding PC gamer. At this point, the only factors you need to be worrying about are size, features, warranty and price. If you still can't decide, just get a Dell. You definitely can't go wrong with those.
No, no, no. Unless you care about perfect colour reproduction for photo manipulation, it really doesn't matter what brand your panel is.
LCD technology is good enough now that pretty much any LCD currently in the retail channel will have a decent viewing angle, quick response time, good contrast and reasonably accurate colours. Enough to satisfy even the most demanding PC gamer. At this point, the only factors you need to be worrying about are size, features, warranty and price. If you still can't decide, just get a Dell. You definitely can't go wrong with those.
So for the most part all the people who sit around and debate getting an IPS panel vs. a TPS panel are a bit more hardcore than I need to be? All I really care about is not having a monitor lag behind my graphics card and allow me to sit at an angle.
As for the Gateway: I will go check that one out and Circuit City, it is a lot cheaper than the NEC $500 one that I was looking at. The Dell models also seem to be pretty cheap.
Should I care about the contrast ratio?
I am going out today to look at some in person, maybe all I will need is a 19", I will have to see the difference between a 22" and 19" in person. This is not going to be used as a TV, I see lots of them now have NTSC tuners built in, and speakers too. All I want is a monitor for my desk so I can play games and watch shows.
I'm fairly certain you are overthinking this big time. Just find one with the right size, with anything at or less than 8ms response time, a good price, and good user reviews. $500 is certainly way beyond what you should be paying for your needs.
I'm going to say this once more and then I'm out of the thread for good. I've used 8ms response Samsung monitors in the 17 and 20" varieties for playing all manner of games, including UT04, at 100+ fps.
You will not see any ghosting unless you have bionic vision. The claim that a CRT is "smoother" for any game is all in your head, unless the last LCD you played on was 5-6 years ago.
I'm writing this on a SyncMaster 225BW on which I do all my gaming. Next to it is a SyncMaster 930B on which I did all my gaming before I bought the 225BW. Both are by Samsung and both are fine.
I'm writing this on a SyncMaster 225BW on which I do all my gaming. Next to it is a SyncMaster 930B on which I did all my gaming before I bought the 225BW. Both are by Samsung and both are fine.
I have been looking at those but now I find out that there are completely different versions of the monitor being sold under the same name. Some are "A panels" and others are "S panels". From what I am reading the As are garbage while the S is wonderful, different manufacturers of the LCD. Seems to be a big gamble when buying them about which one will show up in the mail.
My Dell 24" (2407) works very well. I am extremely happy with it. The only problem is I need to upgrade my box to make the new games run even remotely well. UT2k4 runs great. Well over 60fps and no noticeable lag. Half Life 2 runs well and still looks pretty damn good. Episode 1 starts to bog down, and I haven't even tried to run anything more recent. 1920x1200 or nothing.
My Dell 24" (2407) works very well. I am extremely happy with it. The only problem is I need to upgrade my box to make the new games run even remotely well. UT2k4 runs great. Well over 60fps and no noticeable lag. Half Life 2 runs well and still looks pretty damn good. Episode 1 starts to bog down, and I haven't even tried to run anything more recent. 1920x1200 or nothing.
I've got the 2407 and even with an 8800GTS/E6700 I still end up playing 1680x1050 on a lot of games to get a decent framerate.
My Dell 24" (2407) works very well. I am extremely happy with it. The only problem is I need to upgrade my box to make the new games run even remotely well. UT2k4 runs great. Well over 60fps and no noticeable lag. Half Life 2 runs well and still looks pretty damn good. Episode 1 starts to bog down, and I haven't even tried to run anything more recent. 1920x1200 or nothing.
I've got the 2407 and even with an 8800GTS/E6700 I still end up playing 1680x1050 on a lot of games to get a decent framerate.
Yeah. I will be going a bit mad with the new box. Something I haven't done for a while.
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I have an LG 19" Widescreen. 2000:1 contrast, 8ms. It looks just as good as the CRT I had before (17" Samsung) and is way, way gentler on the eyes. I've never noticed ghosting of any kind, but I don't play a lot of FPSes.
I have a Dell 24", and while it's an excellent monitor, I seriously can't play UT2004 on it. Playing FPSs on a CRT is sooo much smoother.
What problems do you have?
What is the monitor response time?
I've just played it again for confirmation. The problem is doing *very* quick 180 turns. On my Dell it's choppy, and I can't keep track of things. Especially with hitscan weapons this sucks, that's why I use a CRT when we're having a LAN. I've shown it to my UT-playing friends and they had the same reaction. For a quick singleplayer game it's fine. (Framerate isn't the problem, thats around 200.)
For the record, I've played and completed Half Life 2 on it without any problems. Other 60fps games on the PS3 (Ridge Racer, Tekken) work fine. It's just the extremely fast nature of UT2004 that's giving me problems.
Response time: 16ms (black to white) or 6ms (grey to grey). I have the 2407.
So for the most part all the people who sit around and debate getting an IPS panel vs. a TPS panel are a bit more hardcore than I need to be? All I really care about is not having a monitor lag behind my graphics card and allow me to sit at an angle.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
All I want is a monitor for my desk so I can play games and watch shows.
Virtually any display that is currently on the market will suit your needs. You are drastically overthinking this purchase.
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Edit: Forgot that you can get a 20" Widescreen LCD for far less than $1000 anywhere, but I recommend Newegg if you want a good deal and excellent service to boot.
What did you end up getting?
What viewing angles should I be looking for?
Should I be concerned about the type of panel used for the display? Some of the hardcore sites get into discussions about what companies make the LCD panels and what technology they use.
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I guess what I would say is decide on basic things like screen size, widescreen or no and then once you got those the field is a lot more narrow and you can start reading about specific monitors you might like.
Honestly pretty much any recent monitor would work, what you should do is shop around a bit, compare numbers and such as it really just depends on any extra features you might want.
BenQ for 24
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LCD technology is good enough now that pretty much any LCD currently in the retail channel will have a decent viewing angle, quick response time, good contrast and reasonably accurate colours. Enough to satisfy even the most demanding PC gamer. At this point, the only factors you need to be worrying about are size, features, warranty and price. If you still can't decide, just get a Dell. You definitely can't go wrong with those.
So for the most part all the people who sit around and debate getting an IPS panel vs. a TPS panel are a bit more hardcore than I need to be? All I really care about is not having a monitor lag behind my graphics card and allow me to sit at an angle.
As for the Gateway: I will go check that one out and Circuit City, it is a lot cheaper than the NEC $500 one that I was looking at. The Dell models also seem to be pretty cheap.
Should I care about the contrast ratio?
I am going out today to look at some in person, maybe all I will need is a 19", I will have to see the difference between a 22" and 19" in person. This is not going to be used as a TV, I see lots of them now have NTSC tuners built in, and speakers too. All I want is a monitor for my desk so I can play games and watch shows.
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Console games (PS3/360) are fine though, never had problems with those.
What problems do you have?
What is the monitor response time?
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You will not see any ghosting unless you have bionic vision. The claim that a CRT is "smoother" for any game is all in your head, unless the last LCD you played on was 5-6 years ago.
I have been looking at those but now I find out that there are completely different versions of the monitor being sold under the same name. Some are "A panels" and others are "S panels". From what I am reading the As are garbage while the S is wonderful, different manufacturers of the LCD. Seems to be a big gamble when buying them about which one will show up in the mail.
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I've got the 2407 and even with an 8800GTS/E6700 I still end up playing 1680x1050 on a lot of games to get a decent framerate.
Yeah. I will be going a bit mad with the new box. Something I haven't done for a while.
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For the record, I've played and completed Half Life 2 on it without any problems. Other 60fps games on the PS3 (Ridge Racer, Tekken) work fine. It's just the extremely fast nature of UT2004 that's giving me problems.
Response time: 16ms (black to white) or 6ms (grey to grey). I have the 2407.
Samsung 206bw review.