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Do bad Wii component cables exist or is my Wii busted?

Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
So I ordered some Wii component cables online from Hong Kong, $7 total price after shipping. I plugged them in today, changed the Wii to run in 480p mode, and then noticed that there was a static running through the screens. On the Wii menu screen where it's a lot of white I could see flicks of black, almost like there was a static showing up on the screen. I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

I always thought that with cables it was not worth it to get big fancy expensive Monster things for $60, in this case I might have gone a bit too cheap. Do you think my Wii is broken or are these cables so cheap that they can't even keep the signal?

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Well it might not be necessary to spend 60 dollars on monster cables, I think you will want to spend a little more than 7 dollar cables from Hong Kong. Nintendo's brand name cables are only 30 bucks, pick up some of those.

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  • HAKdragonHAKdragon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    These work damn well for what I paid for them. Hooray for monoprice.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    HAKdragon wrote: »
    These work damn well for what I paid for them. Hooray for monoprice.

    I think those are the ones I got... no static problems or anything for you?

    Maybe I will try them out on a different TV later this week to see if it's my TV that is having issues.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The mention of flicks of black reminds me of this. :(

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    HAKdragon wrote: »
    These work damn well for what I paid for them. Hooray for monoprice.

    I think those are the ones I got... no static problems or anything for you?

    Maybe I will try them out on a different TV later this week to see if it's my TV that is having issues.
    If those are the ones you got, then it's probably not the cables (or you just happened to get a defective set), since pretty much every set of third party component cables is just those, rebranded and repackaged.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I got some $20 ones from Fry's and they work great.

    I've never heard of the problem that the OP is having.

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  • HAKdragonHAKdragon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    HAKdragon wrote: »
    These work damn well for what I paid for them. Hooray for monoprice.

    I think those are the ones I got... no static problems or anything for you?

    Maybe I will try them out on a different TV later this week to see if it's my TV that is having issues.

    Nope, I haven't had any problems with my set.

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    The mention of flicks of black reminds me of this. :(

    That's happening to me now with Twilight Princess D:

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  • SushisourceSushisource Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    Sorry to break it to ya man, but this makes me almost 100% sure it's your Wii. Defective cables usually produce a consistent problem, no matter what you're looking at. If only one part of a certain game is buggy, there's pretty much no way it's the cables.

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  • supermauerbrossupermauerbros Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    Sorry to break it to ya man, but this makes me almost 100% sure it's your Wii. Defective cables usually produce a consistent problem, no matter what you're looking at. If only one part of a certain game is buggy, there's pretty much no way it's the cables.

    Don't get hasty. It's important to troubleshoot. First things first, buy or borrow some component cables that you know will work without problems. Second it's important to realize that component connections are just that, a video signal broken down into components. Since the signal is an analog transmission, interference caused by other devices or just poor shielding on the cables themselves can lead to problems during transmission. Since your cables are the cheap variety most likely the problem lies with them.

    Get some decent cables, if that fixes your problem great! If not, return the cables and get Nintendo support on the phone. I would also take some time and try another device with component output on your television. There are many links in the chain of video and the Wii itself is only one of them.

    Good luck!

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I got component cables for the Wii, and I have to say, I prefer how the games look on my SDTV. No jaggies, at least.

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  • SushisourceSushisource Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    Sorry to break it to ya man, but this makes me almost 100% sure it's your Wii. Defective cables usually produce a consistent problem, no matter what you're looking at. If only one part of a certain game is buggy, there's pretty much no way it's the cables.



    //reason


    By all means, you should definitely troubleshoot. Supermauerbros is right.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    AggroChan wrote: »
    The mention of flicks of black reminds me of this. :(

    That's happening to me now with Twilight Princess D:

    I lost my old Wii to that problem...

    The repair process went pretty well, though.

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  • kj01kj01 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That's happening with my Wii as well... I hope it can be fixed without getting a whole new Wii... :( I can deal with it, since it's somewhat subtle... but...

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    Sorry to break it to ya man, but this makes me almost 100% sure it's your Wii. Defective cables usually produce a consistent problem, no matter what you're looking at. If only one part of a certain game is buggy, there's pretty much no way it's the cables.



    //reason


    By all means, you should definitely troubleshoot. Supermauerbros is right.

    I will do the whole try everything out on a different set of cables / TV later this week when I am around someone else with a Wii.

    But about all of this, why would everything look fine when I use plain old fashioned composite cables but once I switch over to component lots of black specs show up.

    And with the pictures of the over heating thing, that looks just like what i am talking about.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    So I ordered some Wii component cables online from Hong Kong, $7 total price after shipping. I plugged them in today, changed the Wii to run in 480p mode, and then noticed that there was a static running through the screens. On the Wii menu screen where it's a lot of white I could see flicks of black, almost like there was a static showing up on the screen. I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    I always thought that with cables it was not worth it to get big fancy expensive Monster things for $60, in this case I might have gone a bit too cheap. Do you think my Wii is broken or are these cables so cheap that they can't even keep the signal?

    By all means, for the love of God, never buy Monster cables.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I had the Sony component cables for my PS2 and they got destroyed when moving, so I found the Monster ones on clearance ($5). There was a noticeable difference in clarity, but not $60 worth of difference.

    So yeah, Monster cables MAY actually have some merit to them, but they aren't the ridiculous crazy awesome super cable that their marketing department would have you believe.

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  • Sharp10rSharp10r Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Question: I have a non-HD tv, that has component inputs. Will they improve my resolution? color? Or should I just get an S-video cable? (Right now I'm using composite)

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  • IchinisanIchinisan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    I went into a game and on one screen where there is a bright blue thing on the ground the blue was breaking up and not really holding it's shape.

    Sorry to break it to ya man, but this makes me almost 100% sure it's your Wii. Defective cables usually produce a consistent problem, no matter what you're looking at. If only one part of a certain game is buggy, there's pretty much no way it's the cables.

    Don't get hasty. It's important to troubleshoot. First things first, buy or borrow some component cables that you know will work without problems. Second it's important to realize that component connections are just that, a video signal broken down into components. Since the signal is an analog transmission, interference caused by other devices or just poor shielding on the cables themselves can lead to problems during transmission. Since your cables are the cheap variety most likely the problem lies with them.

    Get some decent cables, if that fixes your problem great! If not, return the cables and get Nintendo support on the phone. I would also take some time and try another device with component output on your television. There are many links in the chain of video and the Wii itself is only one of them.

    Good luck!

    Proper troubleshooting technique says "do not test for something that has already been shown/proven." If there's corruption in game and not just "on" the game's output, there's no way it's coming from the cables. You can't "move your camera around" interferance. Next troubleshooting step? Suggest moving the in-game camera. ;)

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  • beta.lyraebeta.lyrae Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I have this same problem with my wii. Is your TV a DLP by any chance? It's sort of a flickering of black spots on the full white wii menu correct? It is subtle, but still bothers me. I don't actually notice in any games. I have the official nintendo component cables.

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  • KuratosuKuratosu Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Sharp10r wrote: »
    Question: I have a non-HD tv, that has component inputs. Will they improve my resolution? color? Or should I just get an S-video cable? (Right now I'm using composite)
    I have a 26" non-HD widescreen with component inputs. I've got components for my Wii, PS2 and DVD player and I noticed a fairly significant difference in quality from the composites and the S-Video I had . Things look sharper and clearer all around. I'd say it's worth it.

    To the OP: Do you have Wiiconnect24/standby on? If so those appear to be the culprits for the overheating. I've had Wiiconnect24 and standby turned off for a few months now just in case.

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Not Angry... Just VERY Disappointed...Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Kuratosu wrote: »
    To the OP: Do you have Wiiconnect24/standby on? If so those appear to be the culprits for the overheating. I've had Wiiconnect24 and standby turned off for a few months now just in case.

    I second this advice. I can confirm that Wiiconnect24 and standby have given me nothing but trouble in relation to my component connection. When I had them on, periodically the Wii would start up, but no signal would be sent at all to output. This wasn't the case if I switched to the standard composite connection.

    The way I got around the problem was to hold the power button on the Wii when turning it off. Instead of going into yellow standby mode, it actually shuts the Wii completely off - The advantage here is that the online features that require WiiConnect24 (News / Weather) still work when you power back up, but your machine won't be in standby and overheat when you're not using it.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Let's see:

    1) No, I don't have a DLP TV. I have a monster 36" Sony Wega CRT. The 210lbs edition. The problem is what you are talking about, white background with the black spots.

    2) WiiConnect24 is on and when I turn the Wii 'off' it's usually just the standby orange light off. Is there a way to shut it down completely besides holding in the power button until the light turns red?

    What I don't get is why when I use the composite cables I get a fine picture but once I switch to component things look screwy.

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  • KuratosuKuratosu Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    2) WiiConnect24 is on and when I turn the Wii 'off' it's usually just the standby orange light off. Is there a way to shut it down completely besides holding in the power button until the light turns red.
    Go into the Wii settings and and turn Wiiconnect24 off, and you can also turn Standby mode off in the Wii settings as well. So when you turn off the system it will go straight to red instead of having to hold the button down.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    kj01 wrote: »
    That's happening with my Wii as well... I hope it can be fixed without getting a whole new Wii... :( I can deal with it, since it's somewhat subtle... but...

    Don't "deal with it." Your graphics chip has overheated and will probably damage itself more over time. On the good side, Nintendo will probably replace it for free.

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  • beta.lyraebeta.lyrae Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=wii_tech&message.id=24096&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

    Extensive thread on Wii component/480p issues. There are a few different things going on in that thread, so read through most of it.

    Someone mentions the same problem I have, mainly the "snow" on the wii menu.

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  • beta.lyraebeta.lyrae Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I just called NOA, and as soon as I said "black dots on wii menu" they didn't even ask me to do anything, they just started the repair process. They know about this issue for sure. I have to send my in...

    Glad I read this thread, I, like others was just going to live with it.

    Edit: I should also say...holy crap is that awesome customer service. I wasn't even on hold very long.

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    AggroChan wrote: »
    The mention of flicks of black reminds me of this. :(

    That's happening to me now with Twilight Princess D:

    I lost my old Wii to that problem...

    The repair process went pretty well, though.

    Crap, It's happening with my new RE4:Wii.
    Do I need to replace my whole wii? ;;

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    beta.lyrae wrote: »
    I just called NOA, and as soon as I said "black dots on wii menu" they didn't even ask me to do anything, they just started the repair process. They know about this issue for sure. I have to send my in...

    Glad I read this thread, I, like others was just going to live with it.

    Edit: I should also say...holy crap is that awesome customer service. I wasn't even on hold very long.

    Did they say anything about having to back up all your data or will they do that for you when they get it?

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  • beta.lyraebeta.lyrae Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Did they say anything about having to back up all your data or will they do that for you when they get it?

    They said they would do their best, and most likely everything would remain. She then said that in extreme cases there is a possibility that I would lose my save games. I have a feeling all they have to do is swap the video card, but I'm just pulling that out my ass. She also said that no matter what, they have a process to ensure I get to keep my VC games no matter what.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The Hollywood graphics chip is integrated onto the mainboard, sitting next to the Broadway CPU. It's likely that they'll replace the entire board - I don't think it's possible for them to simply replace the chip.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Rohan wrote: »
    The Hollywood graphics chip is integrated onto the mainboard, sitting next to the Broadway CPU. It's likely that they'll replace the entire board - I don't think it's possible for them to simply replace the chip.

    They will give you a new Wii, but they'll (for lack of a better term) ghost all your user data to the new machine so it should be set up just like your old.

    Remember, you can put your saved games and VC files on SD cards for backup ... and if you link your Wii Shop Channel with your Nintendo.com username there will at least be a record of all your transactions in case the backup is a complete failure.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I know this isn't practical for most people, but I just always unplug the Wii when I'm not playing. Even the little red light is power consumed that doesn't need to be, and I can be certain that it won't overheat when I'm not looking.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    They will copy your data over to a new Wii. You will have to re-download any purchases VC games, but that's about it. (just download, not buy again)

    You won't be able to edit your Miis anymore without recreating them however.

    The whole process is very fast.

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've got this damn line that sometimes runs through the the screen at a certain spot when I'm playing my Wii through component cables. The more I play the more often it shows up. What's going on? This line never shows up when I'm not playing my Wii.

    edit: Son of a bitch. I bought the cheapest HDMI cable at Best Buy for $50 the other day, thinking it was about as cheap as they got. Now I see Monoprice has them for like $10. God damn it!

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  • SePh1r0tHSePh1r0tH Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I have an HDTV and a CRT tv. They both have component slots but when I hook it on the crt I get the same problem with the static unviewable screen. Its not the Wii because the component cables work perfectly on my hdtv.

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  • RainOPainRainOPain Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    So is the general consensus that the "black dot" issue is caused by leaving the Wii connected to WiFi 24/7? If I turn off WiConnect24 should I pretty much be safe?

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Most likely, because WiiConnect24 leaves the console very hot, despite the low level of power it uses. I bought my Wii on launch day back on December 8th, and ever since then it's been powered off in the WiiConnect24 state, with absolutely no trouble. But after reading this thread and others like it, I've decided to turn the Wii off without using WiiConnect24... as someone else said in this thread, it runs anyway when you turn it on, so it's not like you're missing anything.

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  • PhoneBonePhoneBone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I had heard about this overheating business before, but only on the internet though, hadn't seen it in 'real' life yet.
    So yesterday evening, I was over at a friend's house playing some Wii Sports. I noticed some black spots in the background, but didn't think much of it (thought it was his connection to his TV).

    When we started playing Rayman, however, it became extremely noticable. We checked once more with Zelda and I told him his graphics chipset was probably fried... He was a very sad panda.

    Now, he had Wiiconnect24/standby enabled and even worse, he had his Wii on its side, without using the stand below it, basically blocking up one fan exhaust completely.
    That leaves me wondering. What position did you people with the same problem put your Wii's in? :winky:

    I immediately disabled Wiiconnect24/standby on my own Wii after arriving home, as I don't want to chance it happening to me as well.
    Anyone think it wise to invest in a cooler of sorts for my Wii? I really don't want to deal with customer service...ever

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    This generation of consoles appears to be breaking much faster than previous generations gone by.

    Fortunately my 360 and Wii are still running fine but I do wonder how long (I also tend to void the warranties of my consoles by being a curious panda).

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