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Guitar anyone (other instruments too)? (Discussion thread)

GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Social Entropy++
So a couple of weeks ago I started picking up the way of the guitar, and although i'm nowhere near decent I must say that it's been a pretty enjoyable experience to learn. I actually got an electric guitar during the middle of my freshman year in high school, but didn't even bother to take lessons or much less actually care about playing guitar in the first place (I know, I was a horrible kid back then by doing this).

Anyways, for what has seemed like the longest time (bout a little over a year) i'd always wanted to learn how to play more of a casual style of guitar. Nothing like the rock groups that hammer out the chords at thousands of decibels at your typical (decent) rock concert, just something easy to play and relax at the same time. I figured an acoustic would be the way for me to go, much less start off on, but I kept making weak-ass excuses to not just go for it (i.e. "not enough money/time/etc").

Something just clicked inside my subconsious one day, and I decided to just go through with it no matter the cost. I'm not gonna lie to you folks; I was fighting against the idea inside my head almost every step of the way. I knew that I wanted to do it, but all of these mental walls just started springing up, presenting all sorts of reasons why I shouldn't do it, each excuse more convincing than the last. Fortunately, by the time I had taken my first lesson it clicked that I had finally done something about this idea that had been a concept of mine for so long, and i'm so glad that I went through with it.

Anyways, enough backstory.

The guitar that I own right now is a beautiful La Patrie (Etude model) acoustic that was made in quebec, canada. If there's anything that I learned about canadians, it's that they can make a damn fine guitar. Although the price for this thing was pretty steep (with a case, it clocks in at a little over $400), but it's easily the quality of a guitar worth over a grand. If you're gonna be playing a guitar for a while, you might as well invest in quality I say. It's definitely an excellent beginner/intermediate model that will be lasting a long time for me, so that was the top priority when it came to purchasing one.

I still have my beginner Fender in my room, but i've come to love the acoustic so much that playing the other just doesn't feel the same. It's like the body without the soul, ya know? While I do appreciate a whole mess of rock and roll, i'm a bit more biased towards the spanish/argentinian style of playing guitar. Hopefully when I get a little better i'll be able to grasp a much better appreciation for rock, but right now i'm pretty content with a more casual style of playing at this point.

The only other instrument that I play would be the saxophone, and to be honest it's been kind of a hit and miss regarding that. To really get the most out of that you have to play with a group of other like-minded musicians. I used to do this with a few of my friends on a regular basis, and I gotta say, when executed right it really is one of those experiences that can't be beat. This theory is especially important when it comes to playing jazz (none of that bullshit watered-down crap that plays on the radio during a sunday morning, i'm talking real jazz here). Personally I think everyone should experience what it's like to sit around a jazz session, if only to hear the different musician's take on embellishing their solos. If you really know the piece inside-out, you can do whatever the hell you want with it regarding solos. A solo should be like telling a story to the rest of the group via music and rythim. If done right, it can absolutely nail the type of mood your in, your thoughts and opinions on a certain matter, you name it. In short, it's a way of taking a conversation to a whole new level, where words simply won't cut it.

However (for me at least), unless you have that group to work with or a really strong love of playing that instrument, that's usually where the pros end. The saxophone can be a really boring as fuck instrument if you don't play to it's strengths, and ever since the group I played with broke off and went our separate ways I haven't really been inclined to play the damn thing for a good while now (that and the last couple of years in band really screwed up my appreciation for the thing). So long story short, I don't really get much use out of my sax unless i've got a group to play with.

This is just a thread to discuss any and all kinds of interests in playing music in general, regardless of the instrument. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any stories/experiences to share regarding playing gigs, with friends, or just because.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Just learn Banana Pancakes. That's really the only panty-dropper you need to know.

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  • Buddy LeeBuddy Lee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Playing the guitar doesn't really interest me, but piano does. So does the bass, the cello, and the violin.

    Yeah, fuck guitars.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Buddy Lee wrote: »
    Playing the guitar doesn't really interest me, but piano does. So does the bass, the cello, and the violin.

    Yeah, fuck guitars.


    It's a really good idea to learn how to play piano, simply on the soul basis that everything else is based around the set-up of the thing.

    I'd learn how to play that but I don't have the money to buy one, much less a decent keyboard. There's been many instances in which I knew how to play it though. Maybe if I can scrape up some money for a decent keyboard, I can start. I hear it's not that difficult to learn.

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  • B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Just learn Banana Pancakes. That's really the only panty-dropper you need to know.

    I will say it right here and right now.
    Fuck Jack Johnson.

    If people didn't buy into the ideal of "Hey, guitars get me chicks", people like Johnson wouldn't be getting as much airplay as they do.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    B.C. wrote: »
    Just learn Banana Pancakes. That's really the only panty-dropper you need to know.

    I will say it right here and right now.
    Fuck Jack Johnson.

    If people didn't buy into the ideal of "Hey, guitars get me chicks", people like Johnson wouldn't be getting as much airplay as they do.

    It works though, shit.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Bugs the shit out of me when people play guitar solely to get chicks. Most time they buy the shittiest model they can find, learn "campfire chords", and try to get as many asspats as they possibly can.

    Just disgusts me, because that's such a goddamn waste.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've amassed such a large collection of music that I was kind of ashamed of myself for not knowing any theory or having any real skill. So last semester, I took the guitar course at the community college.

    I like the instrument, but in my current situation, and being a slow learner, I want to switch to something that's more compact and has fewer strings.

    After my upcoming vacation, I'd like to buy a Ukulele. I have a keyboard as well, but I literally have no space to set it up.

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  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I have a guitar. I can't play it. I may learn to one day though, because I like to make up riffs that make no sense.

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  • TxdoHawkTxdoHawk Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I have been steadily plucking away on the beat-up Squier Strat a NJ friend tossed me. The thing is a mess though, even after being set up at a shop, it's just been abused far too much. Had planned on picking up an acoustic...but I was doing it in part because I thought it'd be significantly cheaper than getting a new electric and a decent amp. Then I learned that I'd want a solid-top acoustic, and all of a sudden the prices became high enough that I started looking at electrics again. I tend towards rock anyway, so it's all good.

    Now I'm thinking the Ibanez ARC300 with the dark violin sunburst finish, and either a Roland Micro Cube or the similar model of amp VOX makes in that price range. I also really want to switch my computer chair to one without arms...I think that plus having the guitar close by on a stand would do wonders for encouraging me to practice more.

    Mainly though, I am just enjoying the ride. Even if I just do some basic exercises like the chromatic scale for 10 or 20 minutes, I put the guitar away and feel good, relaxed, mellow. It's amazingly soothing.

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  • B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    As to instruments.

    I play guitar and bass. Both on a casual level with very minimal instruction in either instrument.
    I own two guitars and one bass.

    One guitar is a cheap Fender strat that I keep in dropped tunings
    The other is a Brawley custom edition that I picked up second hand, it plays VERY well.

    My bass is a Schecter 4 string Diamond series. I recieved it as a gift and I like it alot


    Lately I've been itching to pick up the drums.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Anyone remember that song in Zelda: Ocarina of Time called "Gerudo Valley"? Now that is a kick-ass guitar song.

    I know that may make me sound shallow when it comes to my guitar preference in music, but that's one of the few exceptions I found in video game music that warranted me learning how to play it. It's not that difficult of a song to learn, and it really is a relaxing melody with a spanish vibe to it (again, i'm a sucker for these types of tunes), so I attempted to play it for a few days via tabs I got off on the net.

    I just finished my second guitar lesson today and it turns out that my instructor (whose been playing for 30+ years) not only knows the song, but has actually played it quite a few times at many of the gigs he's done. He's a phenomenal guitar player, but that's always been one of his favorite tunes to play. Just goes to show you that some of the best songs out there are the simplest.


    EDIT: Man, I almost picked playing drums over the sax a long-ass time ago. I kinda wish I did, because i've been told that i'm one of the few white boys out there with a sense of rythim and shit. I've always been good with keeping time, thinking outside the box, you name it.

    This one has me perplexed though; a drum set is not cheap by any means, and I honestly can't think of anywhere in my house that I could go without pissing off a shitton of people, whether it'd be family or neighbors.

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  • BorommakotBorommakot Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I play bass....badly. I've had this bass for about 3 years now and all I can play is Big Bottoms. Every time I look at it sitting in the corner I can't help but think I really should learn how to actually play it.

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  • OmegaTofuNinjaOmegaTofuNinja Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've played guitar for about five years, not too seriously though. I like to think I'm decent/good at playing tabs and the like. As for writing my own stuff, that's my biggest weak point. I want to know more scales and such, since I only know like, one.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    "Can't you see that it's just raining,

    Ain't no need to go outside,"

    Just playing this and the part before is enough to get a girl wet.

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  • bowtiedsealbowtiedseal Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I played the piano for eight/nine years. Thanks to all of that education, I can play Fur Elise and a sonatina by Clementi and that's about it.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm going to get lessons, my old teacher is now homeless and missing.

    But hey, he doesn't know anything about guitar theory anyway, he can't even read music, just tabs.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Guitar sucks.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I just realized that playing by ear for guitar is much tougher than with any other instrument, mainly because of all of the string knowledge you have to maintain. It's just a bit overwhelming right now, but i'm sure i'll get the hang of it real quick.

    A guitar group that i've really come to respect is Rodrigo y Gabriella. I heard them play one night on the Tonight Show and it really floored me. I went out and bought their CD and they've got a lot of really awesome stuff on there. Something interesting to note is that they did their own version of Stairway to Heaven in the style of spanish guitar. I honestly thought it would sound pretty mundane but it was actually quite good (really good in fact). My favorite parts are when he embellishes on a few of the section, creating these really kickass jingles in between the main melody.

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  • B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    One of the first songs I learned how to play was Gerudo Valley.
    hi5 dude.

    Hell, a lot of the early stuff I learned (aside from the obligatory Green Day/Nirvana/Ramones stuff to get Power chords out of the way) was video game music.

    At one point, I could pretty much do a medley of all the Ocarina songs.

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    I've been playing guitar for years, though I hardly mention it, because simply mentioning it seems to carry a certain stigma...trying to "impress" girls or something.

    Anyway, I'm pretty good, I suppose. I fingerpicked for a few years, but now I've gotten into rock, moreso. Nailing the Iron Man solo, or playing a crunchy Led Zeppelin riff is a hell of a lot more fun that playing Classical Gas.

    I'm more or less at the point now where I can play any song if you let me look at the sheet music of it for a while, so now I just look for random difficult songs to learn to play.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    B.C. wrote: »
    One of the first songs I learned how to play was Gerudo Valley.
    hi5 dude.

    Hell, a lot of the early stuff I learned (aside from the obligatory Green Day/Nirvana/Ramones stuff to get Power chords out of the way) was video game music.

    At one point, I could pretty much do a medley of all the Ocarina songs.


    Anyone remember that neat little song in FFX called "The Sight of Spira"? That's one amazing video game guitar song I tell you what, but from my standpoint it's pretty difficult.

    Oh, and the Song of Healing from Majora's Mask is a really easy song that's great for beginners. It's the first song that i've successfully been able to play.

    EDIT: Flamenco style is the most difficult guitar style from my standpoint. Listen to artists like Govi and you'll get what I mean. Listen to the song "Andalusian Nights" and you'll get what I mean. While the song doesn't sound like it's played via Flamenco I can assure you that he prefers to play like that, and the song itself displays the spanish vibe without sounding stereotypical. It's actually some great driving music to boot.

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    i need to get a gibson


    because they are so cherry

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Gweetar's a pretty fun instrument. I've always wished I could just sidle up to a piano and improvise something jazzy, though. The snoopy theme is about all I can play.

    I used to fiddle; there's an instrument the chicks dig, I tell you what.

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    No you don't, man.

    I have a Gibson LP-style guitar, and you can't tell the difference. It sounds amazing.

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  • MenaceMenace regular
    edited July 2007
    I've been playing guitar for a little while now, but I am terrible with theory and such

    if I were to want to just make stuff up on my guitar while dicking around or even actually write something, what would I go about learning first to make that happen?

    links we be nice

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    No you don't, man.

    I have a Gibson LP-style guitar, and you can't tell the difference. It sounds amazing.

    what the fuck are you talking about
    you just told me that i don't need a gibson because you can't tell the difference and then you say that it sounds amazing.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    No you don't, man.

    I have a Gibson LP-style guitar, and you can't tell the difference. It sounds amazing.

    what brand?

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Kusuguttai wrote: »
    No you don't, man.

    I have a Gibson LP-style guitar, and you can't tell the difference. It sounds amazing.

    what the fuck are you talking about
    you just told me that i don't need a gibson because you can't tell the difference and then you say that it sounds amazing.

    What are you talking about? I was referring to my LP-copy.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Well they could sound the same if they have similar pickups, wood, construction and so forth.

    Depends on what you get.

    Imo, Gibson is way over priced. It seems like the finishes are what costs so much. You can get something that plays just as good but at half the price of a Gibson.

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    okay so you have like an epiphone

    dude i have played a gibson
    i have played an epiphone
    if you can't tell the difference, you are playing on a shitty amp

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I might as well learn to play.

    My guitar wont sell but for like 80 bucks now since they are making a new model.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I used to know a guy a couple of years back who played guitar in a jazz style. He really was something else; didn't follow the stereotypical mold of power ballads for guys his age, his music and talent was top notch (had the skills of a musician years past his age).

    Some people get all the talent.


    EDIT: It's usually the jazz guitarists who are the best at embellishing and thinking on the fly with a solo. All it is is toying around with the scales and limiting yourself to a few notes (I really wish I could remember which notes are okay to play and which ones you generally stay away from). There's supposed to be a certain pattern that you steer away from from sounding too repetitive/stagnant, but that's knowledge I pulling from years back, so I have no idea.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've gotten myself an electric-acoustic guitar recently. I think it's this one.

    I just started around a month ago, I guess. All I've learned so far is Everlong and a couple of chords. I'm not very good at keeping a practicing schedule so I'm still fairly new at it. Fun experience though.

    I'm maybe planning to get an amp and an electric guitar sometime in the future.

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Kusuguttai wrote: »
    okay so you have like an epiphone

    dude i have played a gibson
    i have played an epiphone
    if you can't tell the difference, you are playing on a shitty amp

    Damnit, Kusu...I like you, but you are making this really hard.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Kusuguttai wrote: »
    okay so you have like an epiphone

    dude i have played a gibson
    i have played an epiphone
    if you can't tell the difference, you are playing on a shitty amp
    Put the pickups that Gibson has into the Epi and you probably won't be able to tell the difference sound-wise.

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    my best friend can play any instrument incredibly
    he has a cd that is just him playing every instrument

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Kusuguttai wrote: »
    okay so you have like an epiphone

    dude i have played a gibson
    i have played an epiphone
    if you can't tell the difference, you are playing on a shitty amp

    Damnit, Kusu...I like you, but you are making this really hard.

    i'm used to playing on like 5000 dollar sound systems :O

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Kusuguttai wrote: »
    my best friend can play any instrument incredibly
    he has a cd that is just him playing every instrument
    Hammered dulcimer?

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    yes

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ovations sound hella cool too.

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