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A shift of perspective
SimBen
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Before yesterday, my plan was to go the Wii60 route, as so many have. After all, lolsony, right?
But I must say, the E3 conferences make me doubt. It seems that the majority of exclusive 360 games I really wanna play will be ported to PC eventually, and I was gonna upgrade my PC for Starcraft 2 anyway (AND I get Vista for free through my college anyway). And there's some really cool stuff coming out for the PS3 down the road. MGS4, meanwhile, is still exclusive, and I don't expect either it or FFXIII to move to multiplatform. Plus, they're gonna announce God of War 3 sooner or later, and guess what system it'll be exclusive to?
I guess what I'm saying is... I want a PS3? Saying this feels strangely dirty. I'm even toying with the idea of getting one tomorrow. Resistance and Ninja Gaiden do look quite appealing from where I'm standing.
Is anyone else feeling uncomfortable with new feelings similar to mine? Anyone wanna come out of the Sony-closet?
(note that I've had a Wii since launch and I continue to love it, and I'm looking forward to Brawl more than any other game right now).
But I must say, the E3 conferences make me doubt. It seems that the majority of exclusive 360 games I really wanna play will be ported to PC eventually, and I was gonna upgrade my PC for Starcraft 2 anyway (AND I get Vista for free through my college anyway). And there's some really cool stuff coming out for the PS3 down the road. MGS4, meanwhile, is still exclusive, and I don't expect either it or FFXIII to move to multiplatform. Plus, they're gonna announce God of War 3 sooner or later, and guess what system it'll be exclusive to?
I guess what I'm saying is... I want a PS3? Saying this feels strangely dirty. I'm even toying with the idea of getting one tomorrow. Resistance and Ninja Gaiden do look quite appealing from where I'm standing.
Is anyone else feeling uncomfortable with new feelings similar to mine? Anyone wanna come out of the Sony-closet?
(note that I've had a Wii since launch and I continue to love it, and I'm looking forward to Brawl more than any other game right now).
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Price drops are probably on the horizon, and you will know for certain about MGS4 exclusivity.
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That's just a personal opinion, of course, though I will have to admit to hating on Sony a lot more earlier this year. I'm now at least willing to buy one, but they still haven't released a game that I 'need' to play. I'm actually quite worried about them going another Christmas without a AAA, must have, exclusive title. It is not a good thing when your biggest game(s) for this holiday season are also on your cheaper, more popular competitor's system.
Also, price drops.
Part of me really wants one. Another part is really worried that the PS3 will become this generation's Dreamcast.
it' just unfortunate 'cause I'm not that big a fan of giving M$ money
but I haven't bought one yet, waiting until I need to
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I'm no Halo fan, but I was waiting on a few more 'must play' titles, and a price drop for the 360. One of which is definately happening, and the other seems very likely, with the new chipset. Long story short, I'll definitely be buying a 360 by the end of the year.
This Gaming-Partisanism thing is ridiculous. I like whatever systems that have the best games. PC, DS, PSP, GCN, PS2, I love'm all.
The only reason I didn't buy any current gen machines so far is price and a huge, huge backlog. Thank god I have a decent pc and so I can play stuff like Oblivion, Lost Planet, GoW, Bioshock...
I hate when people treat Sony, Nintendo and MS as sports teams or religions. They are companies that make products, and the only thing that matters is the quality of those products. Even though Sony made some stupid moves, they have done some great things, too.
Just go buy your PS3 and be happy. I mean, FFXIII, mgs4? Yeas please.
PS: Oh, yeah, wait until the cool games are closer, of course.
PS3 is a great purchase, though. I haven't played the full versions, but judging by the demos and friends that have them, Resistance and Ninja Gaiden are great games. (I'd own them now, but I just bought SMT: Nocturne, and I have Persona 3 on preorder for this month, so I'm booked up). Also, don't forget to drop by the PSN store when you first get your PS3 and pick up Super Stardust HD, and Calling All Cars to a lesser extent.
As far as games to play this year? There's always Lair, which I'll be getting for my girlfriend. LittleBigPlanet looks insanely great. Folklore has me drooling after playing the demo. It's got pretty graphics, an interesting story, and seems like it'll just be a fun as hell adventure game to play. Then, there's Heavenly Sword. DEAR GOD, HEAVENLY SWORD. Since you spoke of GoW3, I can guess you'll want to play this game. It's kind of like a GoW with a girl main character HUGE production values. Watch this. Uncharted looks pretty darned sweet, too. It seems like a sort of modern tomb raider meets pitfall thing. Warhawk: Online multiplayer game by the dudes that did Twisted Metal? Yes please. And if you want some multiplayer FPS action this year, PS3 will have Unreal Tournament 3 and Haze. And then the multiplatform titles like Assassin's Creed and Grand Theft Auto 4 will be playable on PS3, too. All these games are coming out this year.
Yyyyyeah, that's the thing, I don't. I really don't. My computer needs upgrading, that's not in question. :P
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Now:
Resistance
Ninja Gaiden
Later:
MGS4
Little Big Planet
Uncharted (oh man this is lookin fun. Tomb Raider with Gears of War style gunplay)
Stranglehold (multi but the PS3 version gets Hard Boiled in HD)
etc..
Its still not the huge line up that the 360 has but its hardware failure rates are not near as bad plus microsoft has a year on sony.
BURN HERETIC! The dreamcast was awesomesauce!
Ah well, I upgraded from that recently. I'm definitely in agreement that a decent PC can easily double for a 360 (especially if you pick up a 360 wireless controller). I'm kinda eyeing the PS3 because of soul calibur IV, although there really needs to be some other big games, rather than it'll double as a blu-ray player too.
Killzone 2 isn't going to compete with Halo. It just isn't at all. Their strategy seems to be to get Haze and Unreal Tournament 3 released only for PS3 this holiday, so that the PS3 people have some kickass FPS action to play while the Xbox people go crazy over Halo. Then, when the Halo hype dies down a bit, and when Killzone is finished and polished to hell, it will be released. This means it'll get the PS3 people, who are probably bored of UT3 or Haze by this time to get it, and it may peak the interest of some Xbox people who had been playing Halo, and will want the next big FPS game. Releasing it when Halo gets released would just get it buried in the Halo hype. It would be compared to Halo at every turn, and no matter what it just won't win that sort of thing. They're doing the game a favor by waiting and releasing it next year.
GTA4 is almost certainly going to come to the PC, although it may take a year like it did with VC and SA.
I did the same for the 360, but with the added incentive of Live usage, and I don't regret getting the 360.
And I did the same for the Wii, and while I only have about four Wii games, it's low price and the VC has more than compensated. I don't regret it.
Did the same for the DS. I think I have more DS games than PS2 games, even.
Same for the 'Cube. (Another point for the Wii, actually.)
Basically, only get a console when you think you'll be able to play it consistently. Once you finish a game, you should have another you would be willing to play relatively soon afterwards. If you don't, you'll regret the purchase.
As a side note, I didn't buy my PSP, so I'm not too upset that there aren't as many games I want on it. :P
I know. What I meant is that I'm worried it'll fail and dwindle despite some awesome games coming out for it.
I have to say you're right about that; Sony isn't going anywhere and they can afford to bide their time. While they may be slowly loosing the confidence of 3rd parties to create exclusives they're still getting the 3rd party games so it's not a severe detriment and once the higher system quality starts to show through the 360 is going to appear less enticing. The question is how far into the system life will that be? As it stands if price wasn't a factor I would probably still go with the 360 right now and hold off on the PS3 until Final Fantasy XIII commands me to buy it.
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When I read this my immediate thought was I need a PS3 now. I loved me some Dreamcast.
All the 360 hating is silly though. The lineup this fall is absolutely insane. I am not sure I have ever seen so many AAA titles coming out for one system in such a short amount of time. I am going to be broke.
You can't play everything on PC. Yes a few of the big titles Gears and Halo get ported a long time after but who wants to wait 2 years more to play Halo 3?
The PS3 is finally starting to look like a worthy purchase and I will more than likely grab one sometime in 2008. Some of these posts though are silly.
I bought my Dreamcast from (the equivalent of) a bargain bin and honestly my PS2 and XBox gathered dust while I worked through its library. I took back every horrible thing I’d ever said about Sega and lamented the fact that this system died before it had a chance to flourish.
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I can understand the sentiment; I mean I love games and the people who make them regardless, that said the reason I come to these boards is to discuss said people/companies as if they were sports teams (not so much religions).
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I just see more respect for the customer from Sony, despite some of their PR actions. Free online play, any USB device or blue-tooth headset is compatible, PS1 and PS2 compatibility, pricing games at what they're worth (Warhawk and SOCOM at $30 for the downloaded versions), the UT3 mod and KB+M support, the open HDD support; it all just feels like Sony doesn't want as much of a stranglehold on the consumer as MS does.
Actions speak louder than words, and this is what Sony's actually doing. Yeah, the price is prohibitive, and the inclusion of the BD drive may have been too early. But, if you're looking for an HD movie player, you really can't go wrong with the PS3. Even if it's trying to standardize BD as a format, it's not proprietary, and they still don't tie your hands with hardware, requiring those authentication chips in everything you can possible plug into the system.
Me, I'm doing the exact opposite. The 360 has more exclusives that I want than the PC does (the Mistwalker RPGs being the most noticeable) so I picked up a 360 and am using that for the PC/360 multiplatform games. When my PC breaks, I'll replace it, but until then, it's good enough to run Half-Life 2: Episode 2, and that's really all I need.
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Sorry to derail the discussion, but does anyone know what the hell they were thinking by this?
As far as I know, the Xbox 360 is the only "next-gen" (now current gen) system without an integrated wireless network adapter. Including the fucking handheld systems. The PS3, the Wii, the PSP, even the gorram DS. I mean, I'm glad I have a 360, but this puzzles me. Cost cannot have been an issue with this, I can't imagine how.
Neither MGS4 nor FFXIII will be out until 2008 at the earliest, so it's worth it to wait to see if there's a price drop in store.
And to continue the derail, does anyone have any experience with the LINKSYS WGA11B Wireless Network Adapter? I did a search for the 360 wireless adapter on eBay and came up with a bunch of those which according to their description do the same thing as the official adapter but for a third of the price.
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I was under the impression that it was a basic USB wireless adapter. I was also under the impression that even those needed to have the authentication chip in them to be compatible with the system.
To be fair, and to not derail too badly, the 20gig PS3 didn't have one.
I *think* I had one of those before (I'm only uncertain about the model number). I did own a Linksys gaming adaptor - it was platform neutral, but I bought it for my original Xbox. It worked great. You program it on your PC, then stick it into your Xbox (orig or 360, both worked), and whammo, wireless for like $20 - $30.
The only things I didn't like about it was that it requires its own power supply (so one more cord behind the shelf) and that it got fairly hot. But hey, these are minor things. It's a really great, and really cheap, solution.
EDIT: the linksys unit worked by plugging into the ethernet jack of the 360, not the USB port.
The last time I was in Edmonton I brought up our supposed rivalry and got nothing but blank stares; Calgary seems to hate Edmonton cause it's trendy, Edmonton apparently doesn't care...
Anyways sorry to derail the thread. One of the reasons I've held off on buying a 360 is the garbage with DLC; sure Live is great and I wouldn't mind paying for that but this garbage with a lot of games having an extra $10-$20 tacked on after purchase annoys me. Things like extra levels I see as like an expansion pack but leaving stuff out on purpose is bad form. Of course MS isn't so much to blame as the developers in this case (I'm aware of the GOW issue and kina agree with MS's stance on this one). EA is taking game consumers for everything they're worth right now and calling it "market analysis".
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I haven't run into any major problems, problems that I would get up in arms about. Most of the games I own have extra MP map packs available, but those certainly aren't necessary (and most come out for free later).
Sure there are some people abusing the DLC system, but they're not the majority, so I don't see why it would sour the entire 360 experience.
Don't misunderstand me; holding off doesn't mean boycotting, I'm just not happy about it. I do intend to pick up a 360 in the next few months and I honestly do like the idea of frequent content updates. My problem is I guess more of a personal one; I tend to spend money on games like it's water and I know that DLC will suck my bank account dry; I'm holding off because I can't afford to get caught in that trap just now. I know; I know, will power...
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