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Sony is almost assuredly phasing out 60GB PS3 in U.S. (OP update)

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  • Breyker4711Breyker4711 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Wow. And here I thought Sony made a smart marketing decision. Well, at least they're being consistent. >_>

    I don't think any one can sum it up any better.

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  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    PS3 no longer grills salmon.

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  • Spectral SwallowSpectral Swallow Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I remember telling everyone the PS3 20 gig was discontinued long before it was announced. I'll check tonight about the 60 gig and see if we have any updates on that.
    I propose a new game, for every good piece of news Sony sends out, we see if we can guess how they'll totally mess it up. It'll be fun!

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I remember telling everyone the PS3 20 gig was discontinued long before it was announced. I'll check tonight about the 60 gig and see if we have any updates on that.
    I propose a new game, for every good piece of news Sony sends out, we see if we can guess how they'll totally mess it up. It'll be fun!

    Folding@Home-The PS3 causes cancer.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    I remember telling everyone the PS3 20 gig was discontinued long before it was announced. I'll check tonight about the 60 gig and see if we have any updates on that.
    I propose a new game, for every good piece of news Sony sends out, we see if we can guess how they'll totally mess it up. It'll be fun!

    Folding@Home-The PS3 causes cancer.

    That reminds me of that Mad TV sketch where some guy went out, got drunk and won the presidency twice. Secret service agent was telling him that he cured cancer by giving it to the top 10 executives in the US and they came up with 6 different cures.

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  • devolvedevolve Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I love it how they try saying it's an incorrect interpretation when it was a direct quote.


    So, it appears they were hoping to pull a '20gb' on the 60gb, where once it runs out of stock they can say they're discontinuing it because the sales have slide on that model?

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    devolve wrote: »
    I love it how they try saying it's an incorrect interpretation when it was a direct quote.


    So, it appears they were hoping to pull a '20gb' on the 60gb, where once it runs out of stock they can say they're discontinuing it because the sales have slide on that model?

    From what I heard about the PSP 1.5, they are doing the same thing with the PSP.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    devolve wrote: »
    I love it how they try saying it's an incorrect interpretation when it was a direct quote.


    So, it appears they were hoping to pull a '20gb' on the 60gb, where once it runs out of stock they can say they're discontinuing it because the sales have slide on that model?

    Sales take a dip on a model that isn't being restocked? Really?

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Joystiq had an interview with Kaz Hirai and Jack Tretton that had a very telling statement that could explain this mix-up..
    Joystiq: So why no word about rumble?

    Jack: Well, I guess at this point the SIXAXIS controller is something that we're comfortable with and we've certainly settled our differences with Immersion. Is it something that can happen down the road? Absolutely. But the bottom line is we haven't made that decision and we didn't have anything to announce or introduce. Will we down the road? Possibly, but it's unbeknownst to me if we have a rumble controller coming out.

    Oh I think you'd know before anyone!

    [laughter] Well, you'd be surprised! It's a big company...
    The other thing that we have going for us is the perspective that we're looking at a 10 year product life-cycle.
    When will they stop saying that bullshit?

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    devolve wrote: »
    I love it how they try saying it's an incorrect interpretation when it was a direct quote.


    So, it appears they were hoping to pull a '20gb' on the 60gb, where once it runs out of stock they can say they're discontinuing it because the sales have slide on that model?

    This needs to go in the OP ... re-read the limed section again carefully. The statement from Reeves is that in the US there will be no more 60GB models produced period and that after the 60GB models are sold out there will only be the 80GB model and lastly the stock will probably sell out by the end of July.

    SCEA's response only refutes the last point, that the consoles will sell out by the end of July. The SCEA statement is that if you go by the Europe stock levels and rates of consumption, then they'd be out of stock by July, but in North America they expect the stock to last longer.

    The phase-out is not contradicted by SCEA, only the timing.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    The other thing that we have going for us is the perspective that we're looking at a 10 year product life-cycle.
    When will they stop saying that bullshit?
    When they're four years into this console generation and have about 12% marketshare?

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    It is unfeasible for a console that isn't doing that great. Traditionally, the console manufacturer who is doing the worst is one of the quickest to move onto the next generation.
    The Sega Master, Saturn, and the Xbox were all dropped relatively quickly in favor of the next generation.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I vote for DarkWarrior as most unintentionally amusing poster on these forums. Everything he types is comedy GOLD!

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?
    Isn't it obvious that the PS3 is going to do better than one of the best selling consoles of all time? The PS3 is going to dominate the world, cause Sony says so.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    spectra wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    spectra wrote: »
    I'm not sure what the big deal is, it seems like everyone is forgetting that they are actually selling, RIGHT NOW at $499. If you want to get a PS3 for a reduced price, you can and its not some gimpy version either, its the same version everyone wanted to have its price cut. I remember everyone going lol sony, there are mountains of PS3s just sitting around going unsold so its not like this is some kind of 2 week sale or anything as I expect there to be tons of PS3s available.

    I know its not the greatest news, but people are like "I was going to get a PS3 because of the price drop, but now I'm not." Since you can go out and buy a PS3 for $499 right now and will be for the forseeable future, I don't understand this thinking.

    Oh well... It's early and maybe I'm just not in the lol sony mood...

    But why buy one now, if they're going to drop the price of a BETTER one in the near future? That's the point, we don't like the idea of being screwed this many times in one year. (Two in a year is okay, but three? Fuck that!)

    I feel really sorry for those who bought the 20GB PS3 for $499. If they would have waited through all the sub-par games on the PS3, they would have a 60GB right now for the exact same cost.

    Sony's learned how to "fuck it up" this generation. That's for damn sure. I had a busted 360, and I returned it to a gift card for $400. I was pretty close to picking up a PS3, but I read this...

    So now I have my 360 back.

    But the 60GB version with the EE still in it is the better version...so I guess your loss :P

    I still have a PS2. So it's not my loss. ;)

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Evangir wrote: »
    I vote for DarkWarrior as most unintentionally amusing poster on these forums. Everything he types is comedy GOLD!
    I'm lucky people still quote him, as I put him on ignore a while ago after one of his many 'praise Sony/fuck M$' rants.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    10 years is unfeasable for the PS3.

    Fuck 10 weeks was unfeasable for the 20gb model.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    When will they stop saying that bullshit?

    The day before they announce the PS4 (now with Innovative Waggle controller).

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The PS2 wasn't out for even 7 years anywhere before the PS3 came out. Its U.S. lifespan was 6 years.

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  • DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Obviously they'll be fine if they stick with the PS3 for another 3 years after the next XBox, because next gen doesn't really start until they say so.

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  • devolvedevolve Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    devolve wrote: »
    I love it how they try saying it's an incorrect interpretation when it was a direct quote.


    So, it appears they were hoping to pull a '20gb' on the 60gb, where once it runs out of stock they can say they're discontinuing it because the sales have slide on that model?

    This needs to go in the OP ... re-read the limed section again carefully. The statement from Reeves is that in the US there will be no more 60GB models produced period and that after the 60GB models are sold out there will only be the 80GB model and lastly the stock will probably sell out by the end of July.

    SCEA's response only refutes the last point, that the consoles will sell out by the end of July. The SCEA statement is that if you go by the Europe stock levels and rates of consumption, then they'd be out of stock by July, but in North America they expect the stock to last longer.

    The phase-out is not contradicted by SCEA, only the timing.


    Maybe you need to read the part after the limed section again, carefully?
    SCEA subsequently denied the story entirely.

    you're right, the limed section is worded *very* carefully, I'll give you that. But then it appears that fine wording wasn't enough and they decided to deny the whole fucking thing.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    DesertBox wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

    How? They could have probably rode it out for 10 years but doing so when the 360 is out? Doesn't make it unfeasible. Makes it fiscally irresponsible.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Big Dookie wrote: »
    Wow, you know, even I was getting angry at the people ablooblooing at the price cut in the PS3 Price Cut Thread, saying that it wasn't really a price cut because of the new SKU.

    I can't believe they were right. Bravo Sony, you've managed to make me hate you again.

    "Certain people" better start garnishing their shoes.
    It'll taste a lot better when it meets up with their tongue, that way.

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  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    Now I'm confused... I can understand if the Sony Europe guy was talking out of his ass and screwed up... but Kaz supported the statement and even echoed the exact same information.

    Now the OP has me scratching my head...

    What the fuck?

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The Gameboy wasn't even out for more than 10 years before the GBC was released. Even if you included the GB games that were made after the GBC was released, it barely had a life of more than 10 years. This is the Gameboy, one of the most successful systems in the history of consoles. If the GB couldn't do it, I don't see why the PS3 would be able to do it when it looks like it will be less successful. Another example is the NES. It was released in 1983 and the SNES was released in 1990 in Japan with a few NES games being released in the next few years. Both of these consoles had a much larger market share than the PS3 will probably have.

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    DesertBox wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

    How? They could have probably rode it out for 10 years but doing so when the 360 is out? Doesn't make it unfeasible. Makes it fiscally irresponsible.

    Have you seen how much it costs Sony to make a PS3 compared to what they sell for?

    For Sony:
    PS2 = profit
    PS3 = self-imposed anal rape

    Very fiscally responsible to lose a fucking bundle on a console that isn't selling for shit.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Oh, okay. I get it. Ten years IS feasible, as long as you don't pay any attention to your competition, your sales, or the real world.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    DesertBox wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

    How? They could have probably rode it out for 10 years but doing so when the 360 is out? Doesn't make it unfeasible. Makes it fiscally irresponsible.

    And the shit they're pulling now isn't?

    See, Sony had a couple of options here; ride out the first three years of the 360 and introduce a blu-ray PS3 when the technology was cheaper, for less than the 360 and possibly even at a profit; launch the PS3 without the blu-ray player then come out with an add-on like MS did; combine the immature and expensive blu-ray technology with their most powerful brand and financially fuck themselves up the ass for the sake of market share in the vanishingly small HD home theatre market.

    Guess which one they picked?

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  • DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    DesertBox wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

    How? They could have probably rode it out for 10 years but doing so when the 360 is out? Doesn't make it unfeasible. Makes it fiscally irresponsible.

    By 'feasible' I did not mean they could do it but it would be suicide. You have yet to prove that expecting a 10 year life (or time until a follow-up console is made) is anything but retarded, even for the PS2.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Oh, okay. I get it. Ten years IS feasible, as long as you don't pay any attention to your competition, your sales, or the real world.


    I <3 you.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    DesertBox wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    Titmouse the PS2 is near its 8th year in Japan and 7th here. So ...yeah shut up.

    The PS3 is the PS2 now?

    Then what the hell was the point of your post? You were saying it as if 10 years is just unfeasible. I see now you were just being a dick.

    The PS2 is the most successful and widely adopted console in all of history and it couldn't make the 10 year mark without requiring replacement to keep up. So, yeah, the idea that the PS3 is going to make 10 years without having such a strong user base is laughable.

    So...they should have stuck with the PS2 for another 3 years after the 360 had launched before releasing their next console?

    Doesn't this totally contradict your '10 year life for a console is feasible' stance?

    How? They could have probably rode it out for 10 years but doing so when the 360 is out? Doesn't make it unfeasible. Makes it fiscally irresponsible.

    Are you being intentionally dense or has it really not occurred to you that the situation will be the same for the PS3 10 years from now?

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  • DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I really want DarkWarrior to respond to see how he tries to get out of this corner he's worked himself into. I'm sure it'll be great, if only for comedy value.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Anybody who has believed the 10 year thing ever is a fucking moron. Look at 10 years ago today, 1997. What were you playing in 1997? GoldenEye on N64 or something. Technology advances on a daily basis and makes leaps and bounds in much less time than 10 years. Just because one stupid company says their console lasts 10 years doesn't mean anyone is actually going to keep playing it that long.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    LCDXX wrote: »
    Now I'm confused... I can understand if the Sony Europe guy was talking out of his ass and screwed up... but Kaz supported the statement and even echoed the exact same information.

    Now the OP has me scratching my head...

    What the fuck?

    Hm, having watched Sony for a while, I would say that the best guess, going on Sony's recent history, is that they screwed up, they didn't intend for us to know this until they had already done it, and are trying to backpedal as fast as they can.

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