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Buying a MacBook from Apple vs Fry's

NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
So, this upcoming semester I'm investing my hard earned college loan into a MacBook. But I have a few questions.

First off, is it better to order off of Apple or just go down to Fry's and get one?

What is the average delivery date from Apple?
What kind of peripherals/software should I get with it? Is the Mighty Mouse worth it?
What about laptop case?
Also, reguarding RAM, I've heard that if I want to upgrade to 2gb that I should just order it from Newegg, is this recoomended?

Also, anything else particular I should know about Macs? This will be my first.

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  • Doc HollidayDoc Holliday Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Apple offers a student discount on all computers. Fry's does not.

    Average ship date is on the Apple website once you add an item to your cart. Delivery date after that varies by region, I think. I usually get things 2-3 days after shipping.

    The mighty mouse is not worth it, in my opinion. My favorite is the Kensington Pocketmouse Ultra if you don't mind a little dongle sticking off of your laptop.

    As far as other peripherals, try and get a cloth that fits between the keyboard and the screen. It prevents small scratches and smudges should any amount of pressure be put on the lid when closed.

    I like Timbuk2's laptop cases, mainly because they don't look like laptop cases.

    Re: RAM, yes, it's cheaper, but I honestly wouldn't skimp on the brand. Their Corsair Value Select line is a good price / quality balance.

    Macs are quite different from PCs because of the OS. The two primary differences are the dock and window behavior. If you open an application, the app stays open, even when you close the window. This way, it just pops right up when you click the icon in the dock (and you don't have to wait for it to load again). OS X's UI is built for multi-tasking, so before you know it, you'll have your favorite 10-12 apps open at all times, and there's no UI clutter.

    This guide is quite nice for Windows users diving into OS X for the first time.

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    edit for my favorite mac apps:
    Quicksilver - really slick application launcher / productivity booster
    Adium - the best universal IM application, bar none
    Handbrake - Your DVD -> iTunes
    Transmit - the best FTP application, bar none
    Yojimbo - awesome for quick notes, storing passwords, pdf receipts, lists, etc. Spotlight searchable
    Delicious Library - Fun DVD / Video Game organizer application. Famous for its UI
    Cha-Ching - a nice lightweight (albeit expensive) personal finance manager.
    Coda - the best web development application, bar none
    iSale - built in templates and iPhoto integration makes creating an eBay listing a 60 second experience.
    BonEcho - Firefox optimized for OS X with built in OS X form widgets.
    OS X Theme for Firefox - very slick and robust theme for Firefox

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  • NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    What would be a reason to upgrade the ram if I chose to?

    What kind of cloth do you recommend?

    What about software? Office 2003 is pretty much required for all writing courses in a way. Will I need to use Boot-Camp and use my copy or is it worth it to pay for the OSX version or are there alternatives?

    Regarding bags, I'm looking for a bag that will hold my laptop and also my books.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You'll get $100 off from Apple on your student discount, plus get a $200 rebate on an iPod if you order it along with the laptop. That's a free Nano, or a $50 30 gig video iPod.

    Wait for Office 2008 for the Mac. 2007 PC is a huge upgrade over 2003. I imagine the Apple upgrade will be nearly as good.

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  • Doc HollidayDoc Holliday Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nikolis wrote: »
    What would be a reason to upgrade the ram if I chose to?

    What kind of cloth do you recommend?

    What about software? Office 2003 is pretty much required for all writing courses in a way. Will I need to use Boot-Camp and use my copy or is it worth it to pay for the OSX version or are there alternatives?

    Regarding bags, I'm looking for a bag that will hold my laptop and also my books.

    This is the cloth I use but hey, a cloth is a cloth.

    Microsoft Office v.X is the version that is available for Macs. Your school should offer it for a deep discount (I paid $15 at my University). Microsoft is supposed to be launching a new version of Office for the Mac by year's end, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Word v.X has an exclusive "notepad" feature in OS X that is simply amazing. You press "record" and it uses your laptop's built in mic to record your lecture. Every time you enter a new line in your notes, it creates a bookmark so you can hear what the prof was saying when you typed what you typed. Its usefulness can't be stressed enough.

    Boot Camp will work, but it's a pretty big pain to boot into a different OS for certain things. I found it more cumbersome than useful.

    The basic text-editor that comes with OS X (textpad) will open .doc/x files decently enough (as long as there's no fanciness in the file).
    Bean is also quite nice, but I never actually tried importing complex .docs so I can't really speak to its effectiveness. It's free, though, which is nice. But in school, Microsoft Office is a must.

    As for a bag that holds your laptop and your books, the Underground by Timbuk2 is pretty freaking great. I have a friend who owns one and it's quite nice. It won't hold a zillion books, but about 3 (which is all you'll want to carry + a laptop anyway :P)

    edit because I didn't address the RAM question:
    Multitasking with large applications. If you're not planning on running Photoshop or any other enterprise video/image editing software, then 1 GB (matched pair of 512s) is just fine. I think the top of the line MacBooks (the black ones) come with 1GB standard. 512MB is too little for OS X to be honest, and you'll notice the lag once you open 5 or so applications.

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    My only problems with the RAM upgrade were
    1. Price (for pretty cheap sticks)
    2. It was not seated properly when I ordered it and caused me much pain and misery when I first bought the machine. Had to re-seat it myself (not a huge deal) but when your machine turns off for no apparent reason and is brand new, one can be easily flustered.

    Word is a bit sticky. I use 2004 (and we use it at my job) but I know people in other districts that use X based on the varied features and bugs.

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  • NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nikolis wrote: »
    What would be a reason to upgrade the ram if I chose to?


    Microsoft Office v.X is the version that is available for Macs. Your school should offer it for a deep discount (I paid $15 at my University). Microsoft is supposed to be launching a new version of Office for the Mac by year's end, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Word v.X has an exclusive "notepad" feature in OS X that is simply amazing. You press "record" and it uses your laptop's built in mic to record your lecture. Every time you enter a new line in your notes, it creates a bookmark so you can hear what the prof was saying when you typed what you typed. Its usefulness can't be stressed enough.

    My school only offers Windows software. And the Teacher/Student version of Office 2003 is $150, but I already have that. So, would my best bet be to order Office v.X or is there anything similar?
    Edit: Also, what software comes installed and are any of these:
    iWork '06 preinstalled [Add $49]
    Logic Express preinstalled [Add $149]
    Final Cut Express preinstalled [Add $149]
    Aperture 1.5 preinstalled [Add $149]
    worth it?

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  • Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Actually, the latest version of Office for OS X is Office 2004. However, it's PPC, which means it will have to run under rosetta on your new Macbook (read: A little slower than native programs, but not intolerable).

    Honestly? Don't by Office yet. Try NeoOffice or OpenOffice first, or even Apple's Pages (Though that is not really a word processor). The Intel version of Office is supposed to be arriving in the latter part of this year, so IMO it would be foolish to get it now.

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  • bluemaggitbluemaggit Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    dont go for final cut express, try to find the real version on the net, or if you have the money buy he full version (if your into video editing and that jazz) because if you're a student they give it to you for like half price, when i got mine the retail was 1400 or something around that and i got it for like 750 !

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  • Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    If you do lots of presentations, you might enjoy Keynote (part of iWork). But I would NOT have them pre-install it, as there should be a 30 day trial on the machine that you can use to find out if you like the program or not.

    Pages is less of a word processor and more of a design/layout program (like a simplified Adobe InDesign). I love it for brochures and things of that nature, but not writing papers...

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You'll get $100 off from Apple on your student discount, plus get a $200 rebate on an iPod if you order it along with the laptop. That's a free Nano, or a $50 30 gig video iPod.

    You can also get a free printer after mail in rebate, though that offer expires soon. Ordering from Apple with a student discount is a much better option than ordering from Fry's.


    I just ordered A MacBook, does anyone have a corded mouse recommendation? I'd like it to have as many buttons as Apple's Mighty Mouse, but I don't want a Mighty Mouse.

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  • Doc HollidayDoc Holliday Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Treeloot wrote: »
    You'll get $100 off from Apple on your student discount, plus get a $200 rebate on an iPod if you order it along with the laptop. That's a free Nano, or a $50 30 gig video iPod.

    You can also get a free printer after mail in rebate, though that offer expires soon. Ordering from Apple with a student discount is a much better option than ordering from Fry's.


    I just ordered A MacBook, does anyone have a corded mouse recommendation? I'd like it to have as many buttons as Apple's Mighty Mouse, but I don't want a Mighty Mouse.

    The Kensington Optical Elite is my favorite corded mouse ever.

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Treeloot wrote: »
    You'll get $100 off from Apple on your student discount, plus get a $200 rebate on an iPod if you order it along with the laptop. That's a free Nano, or a $50 30 gig video iPod.

    You can also get a free printer after mail in rebate, though that offer expires soon. Ordering from Apple with a student discount is a much better option than ordering from Fry's.


    I just ordered A MacBook, does anyone have a corded mouse recommendation? I'd like it to have as many buttons as Apple's Mighty Mouse, but I don't want a Mighty Mouse.

    The Kensington Optical Elite is my favorite corded mouse ever.

    Thanks! That looks like it has all the features I want, and it's nice and cheap.

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