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I'm not debating him, I'm calling him an ass.
Yes, he has some valid points. That doesn't stop him from being a cock about it all.
Egg him on? On the first page he says that he wants to call it shit.
I reiterated some of what you said nearly word for word about them not putting out 100 games a year and talking about future games making you a fanboy.
Point is, you get to do this because people expect it of you. If someone who hasn't been being an argumentative dick for years goes into the Lost thread and goes on for pages about how they use the Ar-17 camera which is outdated crap, and they only put out 20 episodes a year which is bullshit, and it's only popular because people buy into the hype and on and on people would shoot him down for it. Yeah, you have some valid points. You're also being a fucking dick.
I know that not matter what I say, you'll have some diatribe to go into though. People seem to be pretty onboard with letting you though so party the fuck on.
You take that back!
Everyone who thinks they want to buy Sonic should read IGN's review because it's actually pretty spot on.
It also totally pans the game and gives it a low score.
Do you like reading the same thing over and over?
Screw talking about upcoming Wii games, I want to read about how shitty a couple guys think it is. I come to SE++ for the serious and frank discussion of the direction the Wii is headed and overall trends in the video game industry.
yeah, serious video game discussion is always worth reading
Yes, why do you ask?
thwarted
you son of a bitch!
Do you like reading the same thing over and over?
100 games a year was a gross exaggeration. The point of that statement was that Nintendo's in-house/first-party development cannot keep pace with the combined development efforts of the entire third-party community. It's not that Nintendo is shit because they can't do it, it's that it's a Herculean task, and Nintendo needs third-party support to have a respectable-sized game library.
Also, if you're talking about how great something is when it's not out (not that I'm accusing any particular person of this), then you are a fanboy. You're saying something is good when you haven't played it, your friends haven't played it, and there are no reviews of it. Therefore, you're saying it's good without actually knowing if it's good. That's basically being a fanboy; saying something is good without being able to back it up. Note that "I expect X to be good" is different.
So in conclusion, inappropriate comparisons aside, I have some valid points and I'm being a dick. Man, you are insightful! I'm sure nobody noticed that before!
"Letting me," like there should be a rule against having an opinion that something is not good.
And yeah, "no matter what you say," as if my responses are in no way based on what I'm responding to.
There are no rules against having an opinion as long as it's the same as everybody else!!
BTW, do you do any game development, Defender? You seem to know a bit about the back end of how games work.
Woops.
Yes, actually, that is my job. However, I tend to be on the "serious games" side of things, which basically means that you probably haven't heard of anything I've done, since those types of things are sold directly to businesses or the military, not to the general public. And so, of course, they don't advertise where most people can see them. That said, I do get to work with technology that's based in stuff like, for example, the Gamebryo engine, which is the engine behind games like Civilization and Oblivion, and which is not something whose source code is available to the general public in any form.
I keep thinking you're Riotcow and waiting to see what screwball thing you're gonna say next. I didn't check your join date, so you might not have heard of him (he hasn't been around much lately), but he used a Hobbes avatar.
Ahh, that sheds more light on the angle that your coming from then. I've heard of Gamebryo (similar to Renderware if I remember correctly), but I don't expect to ever use those types of tools. I just dink around a bit here and there for fun.
I know of Riotcow as I've been lurkin for a while. I mostly stayed in Linksville when it was still around. Finally thought that it was time to come out of the closet and join everyone in SE, though!
i mean, the ds was a total piece of garbage for the first year of its life
but then the software support came and it is awesome now
The DS's awesome library of games finally beat me into submission and I had to admit its awesomeness
I wish game companies would treat my PSP the same
as soon as people figure out what to do with the damn system, then theoretically we'll start seeing loads of ridiculously awesome games
right now it's just kind of a novelty (just like the ds was early on)
all of the good first party stuff will be out by then, and the library won't be so anemic
which is what i guessed was gonna happen
all of the cool big name games that missed the system launch window got pushed back to the '07 holidays
three consoles
I still need a DS of my own too (i've just been using my brother's)
i don't own any current-gen systems yet but I mean
fuck
are you still in Saskatoon?
I'm pretty sure we have some around now
The second you're even remotely addressing anything Defender says, you've gone and started a debate with him. And by 'debate' I mean watching him go on endlessly for the umpteenth time about whatever your topic of choice was.
An ass he may be, what you do not want to do though is give him even more stuff to talk about.
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-HA!
I went into Gamestop(which was EBGames until like... two days ago) yesterday and they had one left and I promptly bought it and played WiiSports for like, 3 hours.
It's beautiful. So beautiful.
holy fucking hell, that's nuts.
good news: they sent us six yesterday! for the second week in a row! that's three more than usual!
funny thing was, nobody called asking for them until like 7:00 PM. they'd been sitting there for five hours
every time we don't have them, it's nonstop calls with "do you have wiis? when will you get them?"
I got mine at 5:30 just casually walking into the store, but it was pure luck that I checked the store, because I was looking online for a week and unable to get any.
I just watched the E3 play trailer and I must say that I'm pretty...underwhelmed. They're really going to have to step up the citizen AI for this whole social stealth thing to work. Right now it seems that the town rabble is only there for two reasons.
Atmosphere, and to block your escape.
It seems that when you're running around town, it's impossible to do something conspicuous short of killing someone.
The labels make sense, but sometimes people misuse them, or confuse "mainstream" with "casual."
Don't bother. Unless the $400 or so to get started is nothing to you, it's not worth it yet. Wait a while.
I had some high hopes for AC, especially since it's Ubisoft's POP Team. However, as I said right from the start, I have my suspicions about "social stealth" just being a bullshit term designed to make a very simple system sound complicated.
The demo was disappointing.
First, when you push someone off a rooftop and they splat on the street below, what do the people below do? They LOOK UP. They don't just crowd around the body and not look at where it came from.
Second, the combat looks like Enter The Dragon. Everyone waits their turn to get counterattacked by Altair.
Third, Talal has a "special personality" and that "personality" affects how he runs away from you. Haha, BULLSHIT. No he doesn't. It's not because he's a cocky, arrogant person that he stops and taunts you when he gets more than 50 feet away. No, the reason he does that is because the design document says "he should pretend like he's running away, but he shouldn't actually ever escape," so what they did was simple; they made him stop running and start shouting "hey, player, I am over here, please come and kill me" as soon as he gets more than a certain distance away.
Fourth, those women carrying big clay pots full of water? Well, number one, they look exactly identical. If you want a convincing population, look at GTA. There generally aren't 3 people onscreen at any one time that look identical. That looks weird and cheezy. Also, when you bump them and they drop their water pot, it just turns into smoke! No water spills out, no pottery fragments bounce around, and the women themselves don't even seem all that upset.
Oh, oh. And fifth, they say that climbing around the city is similar to rock climbing, where you need to look for little hand-holds and foot-holds and shit. And they say that the climbing is all dynamic, and based on the actual geometry. I call big-time bullshit on that. One, because you don't look for hand-holds. You hold down the "climb wall" button and press a direction and your guy moves. Two, maybe the ANIMATIONS piece different arm and leg anims together (which makes sense because it's the Unreal 3 engine and Unreal is good for partial-body animations), but the actual system that determines where you can climb? No, that would be the most retarded way to code that. It would be harder to program and it would run slower and be more error-prone than just putting up big 3D shapes and saying "Altair can climb up this shape."
So while I still hold some hope for AC, it's got a fucking long way to go.
That's true.
EDIT: Javen, one thing I don't get is your apparent criticism of crowds being there just for "atmosphere and to block your escape." I mean, why is that bad? Atmosphere covers the "style" of being in a populated area, and "block your escape" adds substance to the gameplay.
I cannot count the number of times I have heard "Casual" used to mean "I don't like this game" and "Hardcore" used to mean "I like this game"