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Spoilers and the ablooblooing thereof

MKRMKR Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Social Entropy++
I never can understand why spoilers have such an adverse affect on a person's state of mind. It just seems like the journey to the end should mean more than the end.

Do you have a heart attack when you read a spoiler for something you're reading/watching/playing?

Inquiring minds want to know.

P.S.: This thread dies in the end.

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don;t care that much


    Actually, I lie. I look for spoilers when I can

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  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    This thread has been dead all along

    If I care enough about a story to want to know what happened, I usually actively look for spoilers. Knowing the end doesn't ruin stuff for me at all.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    your mom's dead

    i killed her and her death inspired me to make the spoiler tag

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Spoilers ruin the experience.

    Climactic points, plot twists, whatever happens in a plot of something, unless it is a piece of pointless drivel, is almost always put into the work for a reason, and the build-up to it is also in there for a reason. The timing, what comes before it, what comes after it, they're all very carefully placed to have maximum effect, or to have the most ingenuity, or for whatever reason, but they're timed for a very specific effect.

    A spoiler is taking you to the end, giving you the climax, without giving you the exposition or conclusion afterwards. Not only is the climax ruined because the surrounding material is lacking, which causes the effect of the climactic material to be lessened, but it also ruins the surrounding material, because you know what it's leading to already, there's no placement or timing.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Spoilers ruin the experience.

    Climactic points, plot twists, whatever happens in a plot of something, unless it is a piece of pointless drivel, is almost always put into the work for a reason, and the build-up to it is also in there for a reason. The timing, what comes before it, what comes after it, they're all very carefully placed to have maximum effect, or to have the most ingenuity, or for whatever reason, but they're timed for a very specific effect.

    A spoiler is taking you to the end, giving you the climax, without giving you the exposition or conclusion afterwards. Not only is the climax ruined because the surrounding material is lacking, which causes the effect of the climactic material to be lessened, but it also ruins the surrounding material, because you know what it's leading to already, there's no placement or timing.

    It has never had that effect on me. D:

    I read all the spoilers for the season 3 finale for BSG and it was still 100% awesome.

    Edit: 1984 is the only situation where it might have mattered to me, but that's only because
    the end is so damn depressing.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    I never can understand why spoilers have such an adverse affect

    Snipped irrelevant stuff.

    It doesn't really matter if you can't understand it. It's annoying for many people and human beings expect a certain level of empathy or at least respect (if you are retarded about these things) from other human beings. And the people that spoil films and books and whatnot usually do it maliciously, not accidentally, so fuck everyone that spoils stuff.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Stuff

    It has never had that effect on me. D:

    I read all the spoilers for the season 3 finale for BSG and it was still 100% awesome.

    You can honestly say that someone can tell you all of the awesome parts of a movie and the end and you won't get annoyed?

    You really don't think there's a difference in experiencing a plot and it's twists for yourself?

    Have you ever watched seen a movie or anything where you didn't already know what was coming?

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
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    The only ones I don't know are
    Kristin shooting Jr. and the villagers sacrificing the policeman

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
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    The only ones I don't know are
    Kristin shooting Jr. and the villagers sacrificing the policeman
    the policeman thing is from Hot Fuzz, i'm fairly sure.

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    policeman is the wickerman i believe. Hot fuzz is in part of based off of the wicker man

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  • Asamof the HorribleAsamof the Horrible Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Spoilers wont ruin a story for me, but it's so much better experiencing a twist for yourself than knowing it before hand

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    NYAH

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    policeman is the wickerman i believe. Hot fuzz is in part of based off of the wicker man

    the other one is from twin peaks

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Butters wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Stuff

    It has never had that effect on me. D:

    I read all the spoilers for the season 3 finale for BSG and it was still 100% awesome.

    You can honestly say that someone can tell you all of the awesome parts of a movie and the end and you won't get annoyed?

    You really don't think there's a difference in experiencing a plot and it's twists for yourself?

    Have you ever watched seen a movie or anything where you didn't already know what was coming?

    I watch such movies all the time. Do you not rewatch movies?

    Edit: Mis-read. I watch unspoilered ones too.

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  • Captain HeavysteinCaptain Heavystein Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    zoom.gif

    Delicious.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    When War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise remake) came out in the theater, I was talking about it with some guy at work who'd already seen it. He said "man, it sucked, I don't recommend it, the ending was so stupid, let me tell you w-" and I said "wait, wait, I plan on seeing it, don't tell me."

    He says, "but it sucked, look..."

    I said "I know, but still, I'd rather see it for myself."

    So the fucker looks right at me and blurts out the ending and says "there, I just saved you money."

    I didn't really care about the movie that much but I very nearly clocked him.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    When War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise remake) came out in the theater, I was talking about it with some guy at work who'd already seen it. He said "man, it sucked, I don't recommend it, the ending was so stupid, let me tell you w-" and I said "wait, wait, I plan on seeing it, don't tell me."

    He says, "but it sucked, look..."

    I said "I know, but still, I'd rather see it for myself."

    So the fucker looks right at me and blurts out the ending and says "there, I just saved you money."

    I didn't really care about the movie that much but I very nearly clocked him.
    your fault for not reading the second volume of the league of extraordinary gentlemen

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Spoilers ruin the experience.

    Climactic points, plot twists, whatever happens in a plot of something, unless it is a piece of pointless drivel, is almost always put into the work for a reason, and the build-up to it is also in there for a reason. The timing, what comes before it, what comes after it, they're all very carefully placed to have maximum effect, or to have the most ingenuity, or for whatever reason, but they're timed for a very specific effect.

    A spoiler is taking you to the end, giving you the climax, without giving you the exposition or conclusion afterwards. Not only is the climax ruined because the surrounding material is lacking, which causes the effect of the climactic material to be lessened, but it also ruins the surrounding material, because you know what it's leading to already, there's no placement or timing.

    It has never had that effect on me. D:

    I read all the spoilers for the season 3 finale for BSG and it was still 100% awesome.

    Edit: 1984 is the only situation where it might have mattered to me, but that's only because
    the end is so damn depressing.

    Look at... oh, say KoToR. If you've played it, good. If not, get off the forums now and buy it and play it.

    Anyways...
    Look at the way the game is constructed. For the first part of the adventure, you are your character, wandering around, learning to be a Jedi. Sure, there are what appear to be cliche'd remarks(You've learned so much in so little time!) and what appear to be plot holes(Why don't you have any memory of before? What's with the force bond? Why do you keep seeing Revan? Why doesn't he have a face?). And you can totally believe that you're in a universe as some big hero that's trying to destroy Malak, who took over for Revan. You may figure out the plot twist by the time they give it to you, but only if you really try. Now, when they drop the bombshell on you and say "YOU'RE REVAN", it's a "HOLY FUCK" moment, because now these things make sense. And now the crazy cliche hero shit isn't crazy cliche hero shit, it's for a reason. And then you care about what happens afterwards more, because you're no longer an artificial character in an artificial world, you're REVAN...in an artificial world. You have backstory, you have motivation... it's an incredible story element. If you knew from the beginning of the game that you're Revan, if the game said "Hey, choose what Revan with his mind erased by the Jedi counsel would do".... the game would be much less intriguing. Sure, people play it over again to see what the other ending is, and because it's a fun game, but the first time you read that plot twist.... it's a huge experience, and the entire game revolves around that moment. If you know the results of that moment already... why do the rest? You know what's going to happen exactly before it does. The game is still fun... but the story is lost almost entirely.

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    how do you not know the ending to war of the worlds

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  • D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    policeman is the wickerman i believe. Hot fuzz is in part of based off of the wicker man

    the other one is from twin peaks

    No, it's from Dallas.

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    it's only like a century old

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  • Captain HeavysteinCaptain Heavystein Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I am, in fact, very sensative about spoilers. I also have the memmoury of a goldfish, which comes in handy if I wait until the next day to watch/read/experience whatever was "spoiled".

    Also, not being a huge fan of a lot of popular stuff makes avoiding spoilers really easy.

    Me: "Dude, Snails dies! He botched his save!"
    Ordinary person: "...what?"

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    D.T. wrote: »
    policeman is the wickerman i believe. Hot fuzz is in part of based off of the wicker man

    the other one is from twin peaks

    No, it's from Dallas.

    shit, that's what i meant

    sorry

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    letting me down ori

    i thought you were always right

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    how do you not know the ending to war of the worlds

    Uh. The specifics about the ending. They were somewhat different from the old version, y'know? And it doesn't matter, like I said. If someone says "don't tell me" and you tell them, you deserve to be impaled.

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    i don't really remember the movie but wasnt it just
    microbes

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    letting me down ori

    i thought you were always right

    i am always right

    i just made a typo

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    letting me down ori

    i thought you were always right

    i am always right

    i just made a typo

    oh

    okay

    but isnt a typo

    by definition

    wrong

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Wiggin wrote: »
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"
    WHAT KING KONG DIES?!?!

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Wiggin wrote: »
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"

    relevant_PA_comic.jpg

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Wiggin wrote: »
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"
    WHAT KING KONG DIES?!?!

    He's resurrected as a zombie.

    Also:
    20051205l.jpg

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Wiggin wrote: »
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"
    WHAT KING KONG DIES?!?!

    No joke, that's what he said. It went like this.
    Me: "Eh, at least it'll look cool when the ape dies."
    Friend: "Dude, what he dies? Why did you ruin it for me?!?!?"
    Me: O_o

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The best way I can explain spoiler rage, is the fact that you only get to expeience it for the first time once, and most people prefer to have that experience as intended (watching, reading, whatever) in the context of the story rather than see it on some messageboard or have thier dumb friend tell it to them.

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Wiggin wrote: »
    My friend got pissed off when I told him how King Kong ended.
    I was like, "How the fuck do you not know this? I mean, it's not like it's famous or anything"
    WHAT KING KONG DIES?!?!

    He's resurrected as a zombie.

    20051205l.jpg[MG]

    You joke but that actually happened in one of the sequels I think.

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  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I got a spoiler for ya
    if you are over the age of 11 and still read the Harry Potters you are probably retarded.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The King Kong remake sucked. I love Jack Black but that was possibly the worst casting decision ever.

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  • StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You die in the end

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