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Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited August 2007 in Social Entropy++
Oh God I love this show.

It's hands down my favorite television show.


Constantly funny, genuine twists, and great drama. I hear it's also one of the few animes with good dubs.

It is a cruel as hell show, though.

Major spoilers, don't read ahead if you plan on watching the series:
The biggest shockers for me in the series are (last chance to turn back):
"Big bwutha?" The dude killed his daughter just because he could!
Hughes dying. "Why are they burying daddy? He's got a lot of work to do! Why are they burying daddy?!" Seriously, this came out of nowhere.
The Philosopher Stone is people!
The Furor is a Humonculous.
Envy is a son of Hoenheim.
The story takes place in parrallel Germany.
The Furor snapping the neck of his son.

I really do love this show.

I have not seen the movie, but I plan on doing so eventually.

Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    Oh yeah, and pretty much everything major that Scar did ended up surprising me.

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    AN-NEE-MAY

    I haven't seen much of the show, to be honest.

    The episode I watched was...well, fucking creepy.
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  • TM2 RampageTM2 Rampage Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I disliked the ending of the anime, and I disliked the movie as well. Oh well, at least there's a making off featurette on the DVD which is kinda interesting, and the animation was... pretty to look at, I guess.
    However, somewhere early on in the anime,
    That episode where blows up Edward's automail arm and Al is screaming... that was pretty good. The Japanese version, that is. I didn't think the English version was that moving...


    Hopefully the manga does not turn out like the ending of the anime. I am incredibly behind on the manga, though. One of these days I'll get on purchasing the English version from where I left off. But really, I tried reading through the ones I read already, and they seemed pretty new/fresh... I've forgotten a lot already...

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I never finished it out...I just ran out of time to watch them. Now i'm at the point where if I picked it up, I would just be confused, but if I tried to start over I'd be bored, because I probably watched 40-50 of them.

    Something I'll always remember and try to bring into film with me (warning: spoilers of the coolest thing I've ever seen):
    The dude that was making his daughter into a chimera becoming a chimera himself, and one of the saddest misshapen things I've ever seen.

    I love it when shows do dark shit like that.

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    if you had watched 50 episodes you'd only need to watch 2 more

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ok then I definitely did not watch that many.

    The last thing I remember, I think...
    Gluttony and Envy fighting Scar in a library, maybe? Armstrong involved?

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  • ZepplinZepplin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    im quite a big FMA fan and have all the shows on DVD and the movie. its really the only anime ive gotten interested in because of the awsome scary story. the movie btw is great. it finishes well and makes you want more but deep down be glad its done.

    really exspencive dvd's though... cost me a very large amount of money to get them legally. 40 bucks for the whole thing illegally.

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  • LurkerLurker Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The movie was so bad that it pretty much ruined the show for me.

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  • ZepplinZepplin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Shankill Butcher wrote: »
    Ok then I definitely did not watch that many.

    The last thing I remember, I think...
    Gluttony and Envy fighting Scar in a library, maybe? Armstrong involved?

    thats way back, maybe half way? if even that. it gets sooooooo good later in the story.

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  • FizFiz Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I could never get into the anime. A lot of people cosplay as the main character or the state people, but I think the best costumes are always the ones who go for robot armor brother guy.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    That's about 15, 20 episodes in.

    That's right before shit starts to hit the fan.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Actually, I know the last episode I saw. It involved
    the lovable dude with the daughter getting gutted by...Envy?

    Anyway, yeah, if it's only 52 and not Bleach's "150 and still going strong!" or whatever that's at, maybe I should pick it back up again.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    fma sucks

    is there any swanky new animu

    something for adults maybe

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Shankill Butcher wrote: »
    Actually, I know the last episode I saw. It involved
    the lovable dude with the daughter getting gutted by...Envy?

    Anyway, yeah, if it's only 52 and not Bleach's "150 and still going strong!" or whatever that's at, maybe I should pick it back up again.

    You think Bleach is bad? Naruto: 240. DBZ: 292. Detective Conan: 485. Bleach is simply one of the few series that stays good with that many episodes (fillers excluded of course).

    Another great series with 51 episodes? Eureka seveN.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I liked Eureka Seven and felt really dirty for it.



    Kid-friendly Eva, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hey Fari, try out Darker than BLACK. You might like it, I dunno

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  • FizFiz Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Bleach is bad as a whole. Naruto too. Both series started off pretty strong but then just sort of got high and wandered off. On the other hand, I think One Piece started off pretty bad but is currently the best thing since sex with Redeemer.

    And everybody loves that!

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fizban wrote: »
    Bleach is bad as a whole. Naruto too. Both series started off pretty strong but then just sort of got high and wandered off. On the other hand, I think One Piece started off pretty bad but is currently the best thing since sex with Redeemer.

    And everybody loves that!

    I still enjoy Bleach's main storyline. I think the Arrancar and the Vizards are some pretty nifty shit. Naruto, though: No. Just no. Stop. You're killing what once was a fantastic series.

    Oh, and One Piece is just getting better and better.

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  • bowtiedsealbowtiedseal Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I used to watch this with my roommate. It's the only anime I've ever seen. I didn't see the whole thing, but I was so shocked when
    Hughes died. His poor daughter!

    My roommate watched the movie and gave me a synopsis.

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  • TSRTSR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That show is so good I almost cried from pure emotion as I watched a couple of scenes, like when

    (middle of show spoilers)
    Ed discovers that Wrath was born from his arm and leg when they were taken at the gate, and he goes apeshit and tries to kill him as they fight on the island. It was just so powerful as you see him in absolute despair and (Al? Or maybe their teacher?) is pleading for him to stop

    The other one I can distinctly recall is right at the end of the series
    where Ed gets stabbed by Envy as he's trying to save Al, it's just heart-rending as you see him then standing before the gate himself with that soft piano theme playing.

    Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize that I may like that series even more than Bebop or Samurai Champloo (to be fair, the endings to each of those were a little ruined for me before-hand, so that affected how I watched them to some extent.) The movie was not very good, though.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    you know what'd be rad?

    if shinichiro watanabe made more stuff

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I thought it was a good show, for sure. The brothers were very sympathetic characters, and even though Ed had a tendency to emote a little to much and go off on a little speech in his own head, it somehow wasn't as annoying as in other animes.

    The series as a whole was a pretty good tragedy...and I liked how the movie sort of ended the series.

    But yeah, all your spoilers....crazy stuff.

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

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  • TSRTSR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    you know what'd be rad?

    if shinichiro watanabe made more stuff

    The only thing I know of is that he has a short film coming out as a piece of the larger movie "Genius Project," a collaboration by various anime directors.

    But seriously, someone should lock that man in a cage until he decides to make another series :|

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    any homonculi fight

    any

    was absolutely incredible.

    I missed Al's involvement in the later episode, but it was kind of cool when he was the
    philosopher's stone

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Anime is balls these days.

    Back in the 90s, titles were few and far between, and anything that anyone bothered to translate into english with only minor exceptions was fantastic. Now, it's just a gigantic tidal wave of shit titles. The only new things I watch are remakes of shows I already like (GitS, new Evangelion movies, new Fist of the North Star Movies, certain Gundams) or by small studios or directors I like (Paprika, Eureka 7, that really terrible Highlander anime).

    I really didn't like FMA much when it began because it went on week after week with nothing new happening. As time went on, I started to watch it less and less, even though I got more interested towards the half way mark. Some day I'll have to go back and watch it all.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Anime is balls these days.

    Back in the 90s, titles were few and far between, and anything that anyone bothered to translate into english with only minor exceptions was fantastic. Now, it's just a gigantic tidal wave of shit titles. The only new things I watch are remakes of shows I already like (GitS, new Evangelion movies, new Fist of the North Star Movies, certain Gundams) or by small studios or directors I like (Paprika, Eureka 7, that really terrible Highlander anime).

    I really didn't like FMA much when it began because it went on week after week with nothing new happening. As time went on, I started to watch it less and less, even though I got more interested towards the half way mark. Some day I'll have to go back and watch it all.

    52 episodes is many episode, but things do develop to a distinct conclusion

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  • tuxkamentuxkamen really took this picture. Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Okay, FMA.

    The anime is good. I liked the movie quite a bit, considering that it really was set completely after the events of the series, so I don't exactly get the hate...

    The manga is significantly different at this point, and extremely awesome. If you think things were messed up at the end of the TV episodes, well. Yeah. Pretty awesome.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    TSR wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    you know what'd be rad?

    if shinichiro watanabe made more stuff

    The only thing I know of is that he has a short film coming out as a piece of the larger movie "Genius Project," a collaboration by various anime directors.

    But seriously, someone should lock that man in a cage until he decides to make another series :|
    I know. It was supposed to be out July 5th. I can't find it.


    Half the fucking anime shows now start off at an all-girls school or something. Same shit everywhere. What happened to new imaginative worlds? Anime that tackled adult topics? Stylized anime? Shit.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Also, Afro Samurai was surprisingly good in absolutely every way.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.
    I'd like Champloo more if it wasn't for Ed and Ein.

    I love both animes to death.

    Hey, maybe Watanabe can do something about pirates next? :P

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.

    The plot was pretty nonexistent though.

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    TSR wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    you know what'd be rad?

    if shinichiro watanabe made more stuff

    The only thing I know of is that he has a short film coming out as a piece of the larger movie "Genius Project," a collaboration by various anime directors.

    But seriously, someone should lock that man in a cage until he decides to make another series :|
    I know. It was supposed to be out July 5th. I can't find it.


    Half the fucking anime shows now start off at an all-girls school or something. Same shit everywhere. What happened to new imaginative worlds? Anime that tackled adult topics? Stylized anime? Shit.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darker_than_BLACK

    I've been enjoying that a shitload. It's got a few quirky episodes that are retarded, but it's the only anime I wait for every week now.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    Okay, FMA.

    The anime is good. I liked the movie quite a bit, considering that it really was set completely after the events of the series, so I don't exactly get the hate...

    The manga is significantly different at this point, and extremely awesome. If you think things were messed up at the end of the TV episodes, well. Yeah. Pretty awesome.

    Mind spoilering some of the manga stuff?

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    All I'm waiting for right now anime-wise are the GitS SAC compilations and the Zeta Gundam movies. The SAC compilations were just announced today, so now it's just those Z Gundam movies...

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Cosmic Sombrero wrote: »
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.

    The plot was pretty nonexistent though.

    True...basically every episode was just filler with some added bonus plot material tossed in, except the beginning and end.

    But really, Bebop wasn't much different in this regard.

    In both series the story didn't matter to me so much as the how the characters were developed.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    TSR wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    you know what'd be rad?

    if shinichiro watanabe made more stuff

    The only thing I know of is that he has a short film coming out as a piece of the larger movie "Genius Project," a collaboration by various anime directors.

    But seriously, someone should lock that man in a cage until he decides to make another series :|
    I know. It was supposed to be out July 5th. I can't find it.


    Half the fucking anime shows now start off at an all-girls school or something. Same shit everywhere. What happened to new imaginative worlds? Anime that tackled adult topics? Stylized anime? Shit.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darker_than_BLACK

    I've been enjoying that a shitload. It's got a few quirky episodes that are retarded, but it's the only anime I wait for every week now.
    Yeah I'm on it, thanks.

    Hadji: Elaborate on the SAC stuff. New content?

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    Cosmic Sombrero wrote: »
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.

    The plot was pretty nonexistent though.

    True...basically every episode was just filler with some added bonus plot material tossed in, except the beginning and end.

    But really, Bebop wasn't much different in this regard.

    In both series the story didn't matter to me so much as the how the characters were developed.
    BASEBALL.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    Cosmic Sombrero wrote: »
    Arsenic7 wrote: »
    GunOfTheMartyr wrote: »
    Cowboy Bebop did kick some serious ass, but I could never get into Samurai Champloo.

    I actually wound up enjoying champloo more...in some ways. Mostly in the animation and setting. I also think the smaller number of characters, and the more artsy themes, gave it a little special something.

    That and the music was more foreign and new to me.

    The plot was pretty nonexistent though.

    True...basically every episode was just filler with some added bonus plot material tossed in, except the beginning and end.

    But really, Bebop wasn't much different in this regard.

    In both series the story didn't matter to me so much as the how the characters were developed.
    BASEBALL.

    Mushrooms.

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