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[PHALLA] SMTensei: Digital Devil Phalla [Karma Temple victory!]

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  • SpeedySwafSpeedySwaf Registered User
    edited July 2007
    At this rate, everyone will be dead by the end of the week. Maybe sooner.

    Clarification request: What if the remaining warriors are not weak to each other?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SpeedySwaf wrote: »
    At this rate, everyone will be dead by the end of the week. Maybe sooner.

    Clarification request: What if the remaining warriors are not weak to each other?

    Clarification request denied, for now.

    Drez on
  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SpeedySwaf wrote: »
    At this rate, everyone will be dead by the end of the week. Maybe sooner.

    Clarification request: What if the remaining warriors are not weak to each other?

    its supposed to be a short/experimental phalla.
    short means uh. short.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    JohnHam wrote: »
    Sucks for whoever "charmed"Critical.

    I love this crazy shit

    OK, so... here's what I got:

    Almighty
    Probably means that you need to be hit by all three types of attacks at once in order to be killed. That's what "Bufo + Zio + Agi" means.

    Green
    Green took two attacks, probably from two different "types", possibly on the same team.
    That means he is either vulnerable to the third "type" or he's "Almighty".

    Squashua
    What goes for Green goes for me as well. Of course, I know I'm not an anomaly, so I'm vulnerable to whatever type did not hit me.

    Shamus
    Shamus took one hit of a type that he's not vulnerable to. So he's vulnerable to one of the other two attacks or "Almighty".

    Critical
    Based on the color, it looks like Wiggin's group "charmed" Critical, whatever the hell that means.
    They can't use it now since he's dead, so they can go fuck themselves.
    edit Clarified by Drez - was a good assumption, guess it was wrong.
    Possibly was attacked by anomaly or a special clan attack.

    Additional Analysis
    Based on the way that SpeedySwaf voted then switched six minutes later (probably voting before he checked his PMs), it is possible that he and Tossrock are on the same team.

    Weaknesses
    Gnasty's weakness is known to me. He is not "Almighty".

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Side note: Colors used in narrations do not indicate anything significant.

    Drez on
  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Holy shit, guys

    Apparently I've got some enemies out there

    Green on
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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Green wrote: »
    Holy shit, guys

    Apparently I've got some enemies out there

    I hear you, brother.

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  • PbPb Registered User
    edited July 2007
    Well, 3 anomalies out of 12 people. At this point it'll be hard not to kill one.

    Pb on
  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Since I'm stepping up tonight, one of my clan members is admitting to having targeted Green tonight. If you are the other one who attacked Green, PM me and we'll compare notes and do our homework.

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  • PbPb Registered User
    edited July 2007
    I have a feeling that anyone who is weak to Almighty is probably an anomaly. I doubt they'd just give some random schmoe the hardest resist to crack.

    Pb on
  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    It looks more like an anomaly spreads it's influence. Notice that there were two converts. We either need to get the queen anomaly (hopefully killing the children - I've seen this tactic in the Phalla FAQs before), or it will spread further tomorrow.

    Either that or it's stopped for now. Hope it's not two converts a night or this will be one quick freaking Phalla.

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  • PbPb Registered User
    edited July 2007
    If it is we'll have to be pretty quick with sharing analyze data.

    Pb on
  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That's a good point of both, pb and squashua
    hm

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Sharing analyze data in public is pretty bad idea

    Squashua, you should probably get someone to guard you

    Green on
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  • PbPb Registered User
    edited July 2007
    I'm only talking if it keeps expanding like this. We'll probably hit some tonight, though.

    Pb on
  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm wondering how the conversion works - do the converted lose their Clan affliation?

    I agree with Squashua - we need to hunt down the anomoly before we worry about deciding who rules the Junkyard.

    (I fucking love this setting.)

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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Are the anomalies totally separate entities, or are they just special clan members?

    How do we know if others in our clan are anomalies or not?

    We don't really know yet what "anomaly" refers to, could one be a member of a given clan, yet also an anomaly with its own motives?

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  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    What if the goal of the anomoly is to convert as many people as possible?

    With three confirmed unknowns, the possibility that the goal of the anomaly is to convert everyone it can, to form it's own Clan, and survive. The converted members retain their attacks, providing muscle to the Clan as they convert or kill whomever is in their way.

    This is the Junkyard, baby. It all goes down here.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    DEAD MARIBEL
    Wiggin

    DEAD BRUTES
    Critical

    DEAD WOLVES
    PotU

    SCANNED
    Gnasty - Squashua says not "Almighty"
    JohnHam
    Neville
    Shamus - Survived 1 attack.

    UNKNOWN
    Pb
    Squashua - Survived 2 attacks
    SpeedySwaf
    Green - Survived 2 attacks (one by a Squashua clan member)
    Fembot
    Quetzi
    Munkus Beaver
    Gnasty

    NON-ANOMALY
    Tossrock


    Based on the four scans, I'm going to guess that there are four clans of 3-4 members and one non-clan Anomaly who cannot scan. Anomaly seems to be an EVIL conversion technique. Therefore Anomalies do not benefit the group as a whole.

    You cannot trust your fellow clan members, as they may have been converted.

    It's possible if we kill the queen Anomaly, all other anomalies die (otherwise this will be an impossible Phalla if there are 2 anomaly conversions daily).

    Since killing the anomalies is a group effort and since Tossrock is NOT an anomaly (for now), I would recommend Tossrock as a form of network head for today, but I don't know how that would work.

    Of course, having no scans or attacks against him, we have no idea if Tossrock is the "Almighty".

    I do not think the "Almighty" is CURRENTLY an anomaly, but may be converted to anomaly status if found. So it's not in our interest to reveal too many "non-almighty" members to the public.

    Anyone who is scanned or unknown may be the Almighty.

    As I have independently stated that Gnasty is not "Almighty" (and obviously I am not a member of his clan), it is likely that he will not be targeted for future anomalous conversion. Now that I've stated that sentence, it's equally likely that he WILL be targeted for future conversion (if he has not been converted to an anomaly already).

    I don't know who to analyze for anomaly today.

    What we need is an anti-anomaly-guardian.

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  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I believe the Almighty is an attack.

    Notice the equation of elements?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    I've played too many games with Squasha to trust him when he spouts big plans and numbers.

    !query Squasha.

    You won't die, but if you're the anomaly then hoo-ha!

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    I've played too many games with Squasha to trust him when he spouts big plans and numbers.

    !query Squasha.

    You won't die, but if you're the anomaly then hoo-ha!

    Don't you know by now that when I spot jargon, that I'm a good guy?

    Actually, I'm quite cool with the query, as it would prove 100% that I am not an anomaly.
    Of course, from my perspective, that's a waste of a good query that could be applied to an unknown.
    And considering I survived two attacks, I might actually be the "Almighty" (I'm not).

    Surviving two attacks does make myself (and Green) good "conversion targets" though.

    EDIT SHAMUS! An attack. Nice. I thought it might be a defense. That would mean that I'm thinking about it all wrong.
    It's possible that the Queen Anomaly requires all three attacks be used against her in order to die.
    And that means there is a true vigilante "Allmighty" out there who can do a kill on you no matter your weakness.

    Good call.

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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    query: squashua

    I think i we can prove you're not an anomaly it'll allow you to be a trusted go-between to weed the anomalies out.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    JohnHam wrote: »
    query: squashua

    I think i we can prove you're not an anomaly it'll allow you to be a trusted go-between to weed the anomalies out.

    1) Ever since Phallanoia, no one ever likes me as a network head.
    2) I'm going to be a network head in Drez's Phalla. That's like... KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
    3) QUESTION If I'm not converted yet, but am targeted for conversion tonight, will I query as an anomaly?
    4) One clan should volunteer to analyze me to prove I have a singular weakness so that you know I'm not the "queen" Anomaly. I will suggest that Gnasty's clan analyze me, since we have his analysis. Don't waste multiple analysis on me; find the others.

    :(

    !query Squashua

    Tossrock is the only one who can be trusted right now, and if he's converted tomorrow, he can't be trusted any longer. Plus, we won't know if he's converted.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That's actually a good idea

    query: Squashua

    Green on
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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    damn good question squa

    JohnHam on
  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Squashua: I don't think one specific person has the Almighty skill. I'm thinking that it's a joint effort - three different elements from three different people target one specific person. One whole Clan could do this, but I also think this could happen if one target was chosen and various people, either accidently or on purpose, targeted that person.

    query: Squashua

    I'm willing to put aside the war, for now.

    Shamus on
  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Green wrote: »
    That's actually a good idea

    I am assuming
    1) that there is a "queen" anomaly that can be killed to stop the anomalies (that's how I'd work the mechanic in a Phalla this small)
    and
    2) that the "queen" requires targeting by a triple-combo or the Almighty.

    Almighty should know not to reveal himself to anyone.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Shamus wrote: »
    Squashua: I don't think one specific person has the Almighty skill. I'm thinking that it's a joint effort - three different elements from three different people target one specific person. One whole Clan could do this, but I also think this could happen if one target was chosen and various people, either accidently or on purpose, targeted that person.

    Well, I figured that if three clan-members with different abilities targeted the same guy, that guy would die no matter what, even on day one, which is the same as you propose.

    If there is a clan of three still out there, you could all pick someone at random (not me!) and target them tonight to wipe them out. We could have a public vote/debate about it. You know, use yellow tags to call the targets.

    Who volunteers to do the killing? Remember, do not name your clan or any members in your clan.

    Of course, it is NOT NECESSARY to kill anyone tonight. I just get bloodthirsty in Phallas.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    t Squashua

    You can't actually vote for yourself

    Green on
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  • SpeedySwafSpeedySwaf Registered User
    edited July 2007
    Clarification request: Since I'm probably the only person in this phalla who has any idea what it's based on, can I go ahead and share my info, or should it be kept secret?

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    Deguello wrote:
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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    !retract Squashua !query Green

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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    man he showed you

    think twice 'fo correctin' him.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Multiple clarifications:

    1) Clarification request involving conversions/anomalies denied.
    2) Clarification not requested but offered: while no one necessarily has to die, every individual must target someone with their private actions.
    3) Clarification not requested but offered: you may not vote for yourself, and you may not target yourself with an offensive action.
    4) Clarification request involving Digital Devil Saga source material: you may discuss the source material but please understand that the source material should not be considered a guide to figuring this game out; major portions have been rewritten to suit Phalla/balancing needs.

    Drez on
  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    JohnHam wrote: »
    man he showed you

    think twice 'fo correctin' him.

    I don't mind

    I would rather have a query vote than our possible figurehead taking himself out of the game due to rule violation

    Green on
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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SpeedySwaf wrote: »
    Clarification request: Since I'm probably the only person in this phalla who has any idea what it's based on, can I go ahead and share my info, or should it be kept secret?

    You heard Drez, let's hear this.

    JohnHam on
  • SpeedySwafSpeedySwaf Registered User
    edited July 2007
    So, given Drez's reply, I'll share some info, but also keep the warning in mind that not everything will be faithfully recreated.

    In the source material, every ability and attack done by the protagonists and antagonist carry with it certain types: Physical, Fire, Ice, Bolt, Force, Curse, Death, etc. The most powerful of these, as you've figured out, is "Almighty." While their are few enemies that are actually weak to it, none exist that can actually block it (they can reduce damage, but they're never immune). For the sake of simplicty, I believe we all have affinities to the most basic types, but I can't be certain. What happened to Critial was one of the more special attacks, "Charm," and may have been a clan attack. Within the confines of this game, I theorize it nulls and voids any attempted attack by the target. Again, though, it's only a theory.

    The way you use the Almight skill also has its roots in the original. Strong characters and enemies can use it normally (which may or may not be these anamolies) but when you have your party use different attacks, they can combine to make a more powerful one.

    So their seems to be a good chance that the anamoly will be immune to everything except Almighty. Which makes this difficult, because if the game goes on and we lose one element completely, we could be screwed. If true we're going to have to expose our powers if things become desperate.

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    Deguello wrote:
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  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SpeedySwaf wrote: »
    So, given Drez's reply, I'll share some info, but also keep the warning in mind that not everything will be faithfully recreated.

    In the source material, every ability and attack done by the protagonists and antagonist carry with it certain types: Physical, Fire, Ice, Bolt, Force, Curse, Death, etc. The most powerful of these, as you've figured out, is "Almighty." While their are few enemies that are actually weak to it, none exist that can actually block it (they can reduce damage, but they're never immune). For the sake of simplicty, I believe we all have affinities to the most basic types, but I can't be certain. What happened to Critial was one of the more special attacks, "Charm," and may have been a clan attack. Within the confines of this game, I theorize it nulls and voids any attempted attack by the target. Again, though, it's only a theory.

    The way you use the Almight skill also has its roots in the original. Strong characters and enemies can use it normally (which may or may not be these anamolies) but when you have your party use different attacks, they can combine to make a more powerful one.

    So their seems to be a good chance that the anamoly will be immune to everything except Almighty. Which makes this difficult, because if the game goes on and we lose one element completely, we could be screwed. If true we're going to have to expose our powers if things become desperate.

    Pretty much what I theorized before.

    Three different elements on one character should unleash Almighty.

    Shamus on
  • GnastyGnasty Registered User
    edited July 2007
    It is possible that the anomalies, or at least one of the anomalies, is only weak to Almighty. The possible conversion aspect of this game definitely changes things up, and I have to agree with everyone saying that you shouldn't completely trust your fellow clansmen.

    In regards to Squashua requesting my clan to analyze him: My clan would rather not be told who we should analyze. We'll decide that for ourselves.

    However, we can easily figure out whether or not to trust Squashua by simply !query Squashua

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  • SpeedySwafSpeedySwaf Registered User
    edited July 2007
    There's another way, though it's riskier.

    Assuming the anomalies are only weak to Almighty attacks, that means anything else shouldn't work on them. What I'm getting at is that if you were to attack a someone you knew was weak to something, whether through the analyzer or through process of elimination, and it still didn't work, there's a strong possibility the character is an anomaly.

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    Deguello wrote:
    Nintendo set up a DS buffet and all the third parties went to the PSP Diner. The Diner came down with a case of botulism and everybody wonders why Nintendo is fat when they return.
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