The fact that I did not die to a Zio attack last night is related to an ability that my clan possesses. Considering that my weakness was analyzed last night, we figured that it was an opportune time to use the aforementioned ability. No, I will not tell you what clan I am in, and no, I will not elaborate on said ability. It really isn't in my clan's best interests to spill our secrets to the public and the anomalies.
Anyway, I think it's interesting that Green has some kind of shield ability. An explanation would be nice.
Also, right now I think Shamus is probably the most suspicious. Chances are he's an anomaly, and once he saw that he was analyzed he decided to try to take down as many other people as possible. Exposing that many people's weaknesses is bound to cause some kind of chaos, which is always beneficial for the bad guys.
query: Shamus
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GreenStick around.I'm full of bad ideas.Registered Userregular
edited July 2007
As far as I know, I don't have a shield ability
My best guess is that someone guarded me, and I'd appreciate a PM by whoever did it
I'm going to be away from the boards till at least 8PM today.
A Request
I'd love to have someone who received the day one JohnHam private analysis step up and confirm that clan analysis revealed an anomalous status (or at least what one might look like), or if the attack on him was simply chance.
PMs
I have received independent PMs stating that both FemBot and Quetzi each have a singular weakness, and that the Clan Analysis of them did not indicate an anomalous status.
CLAN ANALYSIS
Obviously Green and SpeedySwaf are good targets for tonight as they are the last to be SEERED, but a clan might have a seer-block capability. Since there are at least four clans, it would be a good idea for an even distribution. It would be nice if I knew whether there were four or five clans, but whatever. My group will be SEERing Green tonight.
I am dismayed at Shamus revealing a lot of weaknesses.
He has sealed his own fate as that pretty much guarantees that all those players and their pals will mega target him, no matter what I say.
Therefore I am going to query: Gnasty.
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
What's the point of querying him? If you're right, and everyone who had their information revealed, along with whatever clan mates they might have, attacks him, then he'll be dead anyways, and the query could be used better elsewhere.
Clarification request: What are the order of operations? You said everything happens "at the same time"
But what if the group analyzes someone who is innocent but is being converted to an anomaly?
Would they be innocent -> seer innocent -> become evil
OR
innocent -> become evil -> seer evil?
Clarification request denied.
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
Where did this converted into an anomaly thing come from? Like, I must have missed something big. I was figuring that one of the clans was all anomalies, and that this just wasn't discovered until the second day.
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I don't see why it is so hard to believe that my clan has a defensive ability. We've already seen berzerk, charm, Green's shield thing, and devour.
Shamus is the one who is trying to cause chaos and screw over as many people as possible before he goes out.
It's the way you were gaurded - not like everyone else. Instead of something protecting you, the attack was a simple "miss". An ability? Maybe, but I find it hard to believe.
A query will solve this problem - why worry about it? If you're innocent, you'll still be in the clear. I'll be out of here tonight, I'm sure someone in your clan can toss a Bufu my way.
Edit: Remember, folks. Gnasty is your enemy, as am I. This isn't a normal Phalla. Anomaly, or not, he should be checked out.
What's the point of querying him? If you're right, and everyone who had their information revealed, along with whatever clan mates they might have, attacks him, then he'll be dead anyways, and the query could be used better elsewhere.
I'm querying Gnasty, not Shamus. Shamus did the reveals; people are probably angry at Shamus.
Where did this converted into an anomaly thing come from?
Since there was only one anomaly on day one and THREE on day two, I assumed it was a conversion technique. I have been known to be wrong. We'll know tonight if we witness additional new anomalies.
I don't see why it is so hard to believe that my clan has a defensive ability. We've already seen berzerk, charm, Green's shield thing, and devour.
That's why we're not killing you, only scanning you.
The block for me read as a BLOCK.
The block for Shamus read as a BLOCK.
The "block" for Green read as a KAZAP.
The "block" for you was just a run-of-the-mill denied attack.
Then-again, Shamus could be lying about attacking you with your weakness.
You could have been attacked with Bufu or Agi, which would have been deflected. No one would know. Only Shamus is the one telling us what you were attacked with.
edit Gaddamit, Shamus, stop beating me to the punch on these.
It read as a denied attack because my weakness changed.
Querying me is a waste of time. Normally I wouldn't care if we used it on me, but at this point we haven't successfully queried anyone and we're running out of time. With the current rate of death everyone will be dead at the end of round 5. Queries don't actually kill their target, they just reveal to us that the queried person is an anomaly and then we have to spend another turn actually killing the target (that is, if we find an anomaly). So if we waste the query on me this round, we basically have to query the right person tomorrow.
People keep saying that Shamus is guaranteed to die tonight anyway so we shouldn't worry about him, but I don't think that is the case. There have been two public cases of an attack not working for one reason or another (Green and myself). I wouldn't be surprised if the anomalies have some kind of defensive ability. Shamus could have used the analysis of himself as an excuse to cause chaos, and then by stating "well I'm going to die tonight anyway" he would actually avoid being queried.
It read as a denied attack because my weakness changed.
Strange enough, I can actually believe that as a clan mechanic.
!retract Gnasty!analyze Green
REQUEST If you have ZIO as an attack, please PM me and I will coordinate a triple-threat.
I have checked with a few people and discovered that having a particular attack DOES NOT indicate your weakness.
While I would like to query Shamus, I am also rather suspicious of Green and his strange shielding ability. Either way, I know that if we query me it will be a waste, while querying Green could definitely produce results. And Squashua was just queried so he's trustworthy, and he seems like he knows more about what's currently going on than I do, so I'm okay with following his lead.
!retract Shamus !query Green
EDIT: But if Shamus lives through tonight I think we should definitely query him tomorrow.
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GreenStick around.I'm full of bad ideas.Registered Userregular
edited July 2007
I am in contact with one of the remaining Anomalies.
I'm not allowed to divulge a name, or if they are the original Anomaly or a converted player. They were in contact with JohnHam, who guarded me last night.
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nevilleThe Worst Gay(Seriously. The Worst!)Registered Userregular
So this anomaly lost its partner last night and now can't win? And who was it that right after the last round ended basically said "fuck it" and threw out everyone else's weaknesses? Hey Shamus, what's up?
Of course, this could be some kind of crazy plan by Green to try to avoid tonight's query. Actually I think there is a good chance that's the case. If JohnHam had an anomaly partner and was capable of guarding someone, wouldn't he guard his partner? Why would he guard a random person (as Green is claiming to be)? I think we should go ahead with querying Green.
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GreenStick around.I'm full of bad ideas.Registered Userregular
edited July 2007
He has an ability to kill the remaining Anomaly in one shot, but it will only work on the other Anomaly. Both of them targeted Munkus last night with that ability: my contact's failed, and the other's succeeded. The other Anomaly is capable of using this attack against innocents, and is far more dangerous.
Looking for a weakness to Almighty isn't foolproof. My contact has the ability to change his own weakness every day.
Once the other Anomaly has been destroyed, my contact will reveal himself.
"Hi. I'm Green and made a silly mistake and admitted I'm working with the anomalies"
Am I doing it right?
It would be one Anomaly, and I'm acting as a mouthpiece
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edited July 2007
I find it hard to believe one anomoly would want to kill another.
It seems like if they can spread/multiply, they would want to kill and/or take over.
Thus you pretending to be a mouthpiece seems ... well.
So if your story is true about there being two anomalies versus a third, why would your contact risk contacting you? How could it know that you aren't its enemy, and that by revealing itself to you you wouldn't turn around and kill it?
I'm having a really hard time believing your story, Green.
Also, I think we should target the Angel anomaly, whoever s/he is.
That's the thing.
My three suspects for Anomalies are:
1) Shamus
2) Green
3) YOU (SpeedySwaf)
Can someone who seered JohnHam PLEASE tell me if the seering explicitly stated he was an anomaly?
PS If everyone PMs me their attack vectors, we can end this right now. Attacks do not equate to weaknesses. Heck, just pick a clan representative to say which ones you have available so I don't know WHO has WHICH attack. I'll be back at 8, and will send out vectors by 8:20PM.
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Tossrocktoo weird to livetoo rare to dieRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
I seered JohnHam on the night of his death, and it didn't say anything about whether or not he was an anomaly. All it said was that he was dead.
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
Hm. So Green is either an anomaly or somehow linked to the anomalies, neither of which is a particularly good thing for everyone else in the game. The question is, will he be protected again tonight? Because if not, he can simply be killed, like anyone else could. Which means we need several people targetting him, so we can get every type of attack on him and hopefully have him eliminated. I'll target him certainly, anybody else?
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edited July 2007
Oh, right, and if we go with that, querying him isn't going to serve any point. Dead men tell no tales and all that. So in support of my own plan, I'm going to query: SpeedySwaf
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Anyway, I think it's interesting that Green has some kind of shield ability. An explanation would be nice.
Also, right now I think Shamus is probably the most suspicious. Chances are he's an anomaly, and once he saw that he was analyzed he decided to try to take down as many other people as possible. Exposing that many people's weaknesses is bound to cause some kind of chaos, which is always beneficial for the bad guys.
query: Shamus
My best guess is that someone guarded me, and I'd appreciate a PM by whoever did it
A Request
I'd love to have someone who received the day one JohnHam private analysis step up and confirm that clan analysis revealed an anomalous status (or at least what one might look like), or if the attack on him was simply chance.
PMs
I have received independent PMs stating that both FemBot and Quetzi each have a singular weakness, and that the Clan Analysis of them did not indicate an anomalous status.
CLAN ANALYSIS
Obviously Green and SpeedySwaf are good targets for tonight as they are the last to be SEERED, but a clan might have a seer-block capability. Since there are at least four clans, it would be a good idea for an even distribution. It would be nice if I knew whether there were four or five clans, but whatever. My group will be SEERing Green tonight.
He has sealed his own fate as that pretty much guarantees that all those players and their pals will mega target him, no matter what I say.
Therefore I am going to query: Gnasty.
Clarification request denied.
All this saying no.
Moar liek FEMputer.
Am I right guys?
Eh? EH?
>_>
Also why target Gnasty?
Shamus is the one revealing weaknesses.
That is pretty anomalous behavior, even if he's not one.
Because my Zio-lovin' pal, I am definitely goin' to die tonight. Someone will be sure to take me out.
Gnasty avoided the attack. "lawl it was an ability!"
Better to be safe, then sorry.
Get erased, punk!
Phew, glad we're in agreement.
i see what you did there
lanfear
Shamus is the one who is trying to cause chaos and screw over as many people as possible before he goes out.
It's the way you were gaurded - not like everyone else. Instead of something protecting you, the attack was a simple "miss". An ability? Maybe, but I find it hard to believe.
A query will solve this problem - why worry about it? If you're innocent, you'll still be in the clear. I'll be out of here tonight, I'm sure someone in your clan can toss a Bufu my way.
Edit: Remember, folks. Gnasty is your enemy, as am I. This isn't a normal Phalla. Anomaly, or not, he should be checked out.
I'm querying Gnasty, not Shamus. Shamus did the reveals; people are probably angry at Shamus.
Since there was only one anomaly on day one and THREE on day two, I assumed it was a conversion technique. I have been known to be wrong. We'll know tonight if we witness additional new anomalies.
Because if Shamus is getting targeted for kills tonight (the likely scenario), then it is a waste of a scan that could be used on someone living.
That's why we're not killing you, only scanning you.
The block for me read as a BLOCK.
The block for Shamus read as a BLOCK.
The "block" for Green read as a KAZAP.
The "block" for you was just a run-of-the-mill denied attack.
Then-again, Shamus could be lying about attacking you with your weakness.
You could have been attacked with Bufu or Agi, which would have been deflected. No one would know.
Only Shamus is the one telling us what you were attacked with.
edit Gaddamit, Shamus, stop beating me to the punch on these.
You can have the show from 4-9.
Querying me is a waste of time. Normally I wouldn't care if we used it on me, but at this point we haven't successfully queried anyone and we're running out of time. With the current rate of death everyone will be dead at the end of round 5. Queries don't actually kill their target, they just reveal to us that the queried person is an anomaly and then we have to spend another turn actually killing the target (that is, if we find an anomaly). So if we waste the query on me this round, we basically have to query the right person tomorrow.
People keep saying that Shamus is guaranteed to die tonight anyway so we shouldn't worry about him, but I don't think that is the case. There have been two public cases of an attack not working for one reason or another (Green and myself). I wouldn't be surprised if the anomalies have some kind of defensive ability. Shamus could have used the analysis of himself as an excuse to cause chaos, and then by stating "well I'm going to die tonight anyway" he would actually avoid being queried.
Strange enough, I can actually believe that as a clan mechanic.
!retract Gnasty !analyze Green
REQUEST If you have ZIO as an attack, please PM me and I will coordinate a triple-threat.
I have checked with a few people and discovered that having a particular attack DOES NOT indicate your weakness.
!retract Shamus !query Green
EDIT: But if Shamus lives through tonight I think we should definitely query him tomorrow.
I'm not allowed to divulge a name, or if they are the original Anomaly or a converted player. They were in contact with JohnHam, who guarded me last night.
Yeah, that makes no sense. Especially since:
I'm not allowed to say.
His win condition was tied to JohnHam, and since he's been killed this Anomaly can no longer win the game.
Of course, this could be some kind of crazy plan by Green to try to avoid tonight's query. Actually I think there is a good chance that's the case. If JohnHam had an anomaly partner and was capable of guarding someone, wouldn't he guard his partner? Why would he guard a random person (as Green is claiming to be)? I think we should go ahead with querying Green.
Looking for a weakness to Almighty isn't foolproof. My contact has the ability to change his own weakness every day.
Once the other Anomaly has been destroyed, my contact will reveal himself.
Plus, I'd like a Zio to talk to me, please. Soon. I have a job for you.
And to the one who did PM me stating he was a Zio, no it's not to target you; I just don't trust you enough to be lying.
Am I doing it right?
It would be one Anomaly, and I'm acting as a mouthpiece
It seems like if they can spread/multiply, they would want to kill and/or take over.
Thus you pretending to be a mouthpiece seems ... well.
Not smart. The other thing.
I'm having a really hard time believing your story, Green.
Learning from experience, that is always a mistake.
Also I want to make sure that Green and SpeedySwaf have Clan Analysis on them tonight, regardless.
!target Green
Shamus, you're still on my LIST
but Green, you're just... yeah.
I have been contacted by someone claiming to be an Anomaly.
So has Tossrock.
Here's the deal:
- The Anomaly was given a role at game start.
- There is also a role known as Angel. I am not sure if this is also an Anomaly.
The Anomaly states that his win condition was:
1 - Remove the Angel and
2 - Survive 5 rounds with JohnHam alive.
The Anomaly suspects Angel's win condition is:
1 - Remove other Anomalies and
2 - Survive 5 rounds.
Also, I think we should target the Angel anomaly, whoever s/he is.
That's the thing.
My three suspects for Anomalies are:
1) Shamus
2) Green
3) YOU (SpeedySwaf)
Can someone who seered JohnHam PLEASE tell me if the seering explicitly stated he was an anomaly?
PS If everyone PMs me their attack vectors, we can end this right now. Attacks do not equate to weaknesses. Heck, just pick a clan representative to say which ones you have available so I don't know WHO has WHICH attack. I'll be back at 8, and will send out vectors by 8:20PM.
Thanks. I meant the NIGHT ONE seer of JohnHam. The one that probably got a coordinated 3-way attack to target him.
query: SpeedySwaf