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LAIR: Dragons kick ass (NSF56k)
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Nono, people don't get called out on Damage Control when they defend something Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft does. You can easily defend it. You can easily point out how the reviewer was wrong before so maybe they are wrong now. That's fine and dandy. That's jus' debatin'.
However, when you combine U-O's current Damage Control by discrediting one of the most respected games journals out there (and not offering his own contrasting opinion, just "Ziff Davis sucks") with his history of just popping into any thread possible to discredit Nintendo/MS and at the same time protect Sony, well then he should be called out.
Note: I was gonna give specifics here but just look at his fucking post history, please. It's entirely Sony Defence/Hype Force with about 5 posts about comics over the last 350 posts. Every thread he's started has been about one thing: Sony news/PR stuff!!! Woooooh unbiased.
Seriously, I thought we banned shills on this forum.
Would you really say EGM is respected? I think the general consensus among people who know what they're talking about is that the reviews in it are kind of a joke and don't mean much.
Regardless of that opinion, only 2 days ago U-O told everyone to check out the 1UP show because they were discussing how "awesome" Heavenly Sword was. Today, Lair gets a bad review from the same company (the same people) and suddenly their opinion doesn't mean a thing.
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I don't even know what to say here.
Every thread we've had on it in the past 6 months or so has been half people saying "fuck awesome!" and half people saying "meh".
I do.
As was explained to shane in that exact podcast if you had listened on they explained WHY they had the three person review method because of that exact thing. They said how Shoe thought Gears was a 10 and how others didnt, which is why they implemented their review method in the first place, to eliminate subjective and biased reviews. The other editors also gave Gears 9+ reviews, I cant remember but probably 9 and 9.5. The reason they gave Gears good scores isnt fanboyism, its cause it is a fucking good game. See metacritic and a billion other review outlets for 90%+ scores. Gears is good.
They gave Lair low scores. Did it ever enter your fucking mind, Unco-ordinated, that it actually ISNT a good game and actually does suck, or is that going to be fobbed off as fanboyism too?
I read reviews, but more than one, rent games, and check these forums. I trust the latter two options more than the former.
That said, this game looks meh.
A real dragon based game would be about burninating peasants and their cottages.
That'll teach em for having thatched roofs
And stomping children.
Because dragons are big, and children are little smelly things.
Stomp.
My moneys on GH2.
He was a dragooooon-man.
Or maybe just a dragon...
but he was still
TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOR
This is just the refresher course. The 8.8 for Twighlight Princess was a better example, and infinitely more funny.
Rebel Strike is far from bad. It's just not Factor 5's finest work.
I would go along with 8.8 for TP.
Then again, I vastly preferred Wind Waker to TP. both are great though.
Except there really isn't any ground crap, and the reviews said they were disappointed not with ground sections that don't exist, but by the SIXAXIS controls. You can land your dragon, but it's not like you get off or have missions entirely on the ground. You can land and swat at humans with your claws, flame broil them, or even eat them. Eating them gains you health. I guess you could consider them health packs.
As I said before, I'm still a bit interested in the game. It seems the most problem the reviews have is with the SIXAXIS controls, but otherwise it's a solid and impressive game. I'll probably rent it and see if I can deal with the motion controls well enough.
My only concern is if you have to fly your dragon with motion controls. That would put me off a great deal. I know you can fly with them, and some attacks on other dragons or beasts require you to use the motion controls, but does the player still have the option to fly, at least, with the dual sticks?
No.
So you have to fly with the motion controls?
...
That's a terrible decision. Why the hell would they do that? It's very difficult and a pain in the ass to fly with those controls. I've played Ubisoft's WW2 flying game with those controls and it was far too difficult trying to maneuver and target enemies. Even stationary targets were hard to move in to hit. I guess I can see why they gave it such a low score, then. Now I'm feeling a little put off by the game. In my opinion, no developer should force the player to use motion controls, especially in a flying game. It makes it overly difficult and frustrating.
I'm kinda glad it can't.
To be fair to Lair, the visuals are pretty fucking incredible. The waver is cool and the scale is amazing. Its just the same drum Ive been beating since the beginning of time. Gameplay has to stand up then you put the visuals on top or it is just a tech demo. This is where Doom 3 failed hard, but where games like Twilight Princess succeed.
first, the op posts the egm scores.
cue 20 pages of 'this is bullshit' 'its a hoax'
so he posts a photo of the magazine he has a copy of.
then people are all 'thats not real' so then he writes on the cover an insult to one of the forumers, photographs it and posts that photo, then people STILL dont believe the review score is real.
then it infects onto 4chan. i didnt follow the links cause, well, i dont need to say why but I dont go there, and apparently on there people are arguing over how real this review score is. they cite PLAY (I have no idea what that is) as a reason why it cant be real cause they gave lair 90% then someone mentions that PLAY gave some shitty sonic game the same score.
man, this whole mess is crazy. maybe the game isnt actually good at all. why is that so hard to believe? and WHY is it plastered as flaming or flame bait or even trolling when you say that it could be crap. you know, lair looks pretty but plays bad, its fair game to call it out on that and I dont see why it should be immune to hate just because of the LOLsony crap has somehow filled their quota of hate already.
Then shoe posts on the 1up forums that the scores are real and STILL he gets 8 pages of replies with 'shoes just joking' or 'Im a subscriber i havent received my copy yet its total BS'
I find it weird that people are arguing more over the validity of the score than the score itself. Like, there is no way it could be reviewed as such rather than whether it deserves it.
Fucking god damnit.
I guess I have faith in the controls being decent if they didn't even want to add them until they played around with it.
1.) EGM, while not the best source in the world for reviews, is usually not wrong about the general range of a game. They are usually right in the average of a metacritic range. Some sited the giving a ten by one of the Hotel Dusk reviewers, and I can tell you that for some people (like myself and one or two of my friends) that that is a near perfect game for them and myself.
2.) I don't normally take any joy in the "failures" of the PS3 or its developers. I do, however, think it is funny that the Boomerang of much comfort looking was scrapped for a PS2 controller with half assed waggle. People said it was a shameless copy, and so far it has been so. The good waggle controller, however, seems to be able to handle flight just fine. There is a very shitty looking flight game for the Wii that my cousin rented that controlled like a fucking dream.