Oh man. They just keep pushing themselves faster and faster down this terrible path. I just had an image of what the PS3 is. They're a train heading towards a burning chemical factory. The engineer (Sony) keeps saying "Stoke the fires men! If we pick up enough speed we might derail and totally miss that factory!"
spent too much time watching Speed, not enough time studying physics. Also, i refer you to my sig.
Sounds like you guys are lucky to be able to buy one at all
I have two friends that own PS3s actually. Although they both have excessive spending money.
A friend's brother-in-law actually has two PS3s. He picked them both up at launch with the plan of having one hooked up to his main HDTV downstairs and one upstairs. He's obviously got more money than sense. Anyway, he's now in the market to sell one of the systems and was trying to get me to buy one form him when I was looking to buy a PS3. I refused, went to Best Buy, and took advantage of the price drop. I could have bought the thing from him but I refuse to reward stupidity...
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So what is the story behind the I have three PS3s guy anyways? Was it done during launch to make people jealous or is it supposed to be some sort of giant "lol sony" from some disgruntled EBAYer?
I think it was just some dude making a funny video close to Christmas, back when they were actually hard to find and people weren't taking the Wii very seriously.
Oh man. They just keep pushing themselves faster and faster down this terrible path. I just had an image of what the PS3 is. They're a train heading towards a burning chemical factory. The engineer (Sony) keeps saying "Stoke the fires men! If we pick up enough speed we might derail and totally miss that factory!"
spent too much time watching Speed, not enough time studying physics. Also, i refer you to my sig.
Part of the idea is that they're doing something totally stupid that clearly won't work and only moving themselves faster to a disastrous end.
Can I do a lol Sony? Never been in a thread early enough before, time to pop that cherry.
Lol Sony.
God that felt good. Alright, go about your business people, nothing to see.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
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The only people that would get annoyed by a price drop would be early adopters.
And considering the amount of early adopters out there isn't a whole hell of a lot... well... fuck em. Gotta have the games to win the race, and gotta have the console base to get the games.
Funny thing about this interview is that I pretty much agree with the idea that he is putting forth. It does make no sense for Sony Europe to slash the price so soon, it makes them look like they have no confidence at all in their system. He also admits that the system isn't selling well, which is a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, but... Christmas won't be crucial for the system? It'll be the PS3's first Christmas in Europe. How could it not be crucial for the system? I'm still not convinced Reeves knows what the hell is going on.
I did ignore that, didn't I? Of course it is important, but c'mon now, the PS3 is going to have eight more christmases so one bad one won't be that big of a deal.
I think that Sony knows they won't be able to combat Halo 3's release and are instead saying "well, we'll ride out this year and then next year, we'll launch our attack when MS don't have their Halo 3". And then we'll see MGS4, GT5, LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Story and Resistance 2 next year.
Funny thing about this interview is that I pretty much agree with the idea that he is putting forth. It does make no sense for Sony Europe to slash the price so soon, it makes them look like they have no confidence at all in their system. He also admits that the system isn't selling well, which is a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, but... Christmas won't be crucial for the system? It'll be the PS3's first Christmas in Europe. How could it not be crucial for the system? I'm still not convinced Reeves knows what the hell is going on.
I did ignore that, didn't I? Of course it is important, but c'mon now, the PS3 is going to have eight more christmases so one bad one won't be that big of a deal.
I think that Sony knows they won't be able to combat Halo 3's release and are instead saying "well, we'll ride out this year and then next year, we'll launch our attack when MS don't have their Halo 3". And then we'll see MGS4, GT5, LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Story and Resistance 2 next year.
While MS pumps out the Alan Wake, Fable 2, PGR4, and people discover other games besides H3 came out for the 360 during XMas.
I gotta wonder if people at game companies who are releasing in November are masochistic.
Funny thing about this interview is that I pretty much agree with the idea that he is putting forth. It does make no sense for Sony Europe to slash the price so soon, it makes them look like they have no confidence at all in their system. He also admits that the system isn't selling well, which is a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, but... Christmas won't be crucial for the system? It'll be the PS3's first Christmas in Europe. How could it not be crucial for the system? I'm still not convinced Reeves knows what the hell is going on.
I did ignore that, didn't I? Of course it is important, but c'mon now, the PS3 is going to have eight more christmases so one bad one won't be that big of a deal.
I think that Sony knows they won't be able to combat Halo 3's release and are instead saying "well, we'll ride out this year and then next year, we'll launch our attack when MS don't have their Halo 3". And then we'll see MGS4, GT5, LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Story and Resistance 2 next year.
While MS pumps out the Alan Wake, Fable 2, PGR4, and people discover other games besides H3 came out for the 360 during XMas.
I gotta wonder if people at game companies who are releasing in November are masochistic.
I think what you'll see for them, rather than a big rush at the start, then tailing off into lower numbers, is a more prolonged stream of sales. I won't be able to buy everything as it comes out, so i'll be picking up games over the following months, as i expect many others to do. This should keep sales of 360 games at a nice average, rather than lots of spikes and dips.
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They're going to have to. Summer is ripe for some big-name titles to come out, and the gaming droughts of the previous years (mid-spring till fall) are just bad business-wise. There's simply too much good stuff coming out all at once that studios are battling each other needlessly.
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I also have never lol'ed Sony, may I?
LOL Sony.
Man, that felt good.
At this point, I have to seriously wonder whether or not the various Sony execs actually COMMUNICATE with each other.
Note to Hirai, Tretton, Reeves, Harrison, et. al:
There is this wonderful invention called e-mail. You can write messages to each other and let each other know what to say in public. This will help safeguard against looking like a collective group of equine patoots, regardless of how infintely entertaining it is.
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At this point, I have to seriously wonder whether or not the various Sony execs actually COMMUNICATE with each other.
Note to Hirai, Tretton, Reeves, Harrison, et. al:
There is this wonderful invention called e-mail. You can write messages to each other and let each other know what to say in public. This will help safeguard against looking like a collective group of equine patoots, regardless of how infintely entertaining it is.
Addendum to e-mail notification:
Online communication can be fast. This is so fast, it's instant.
I'm going to go the opposite way and say that I trust Sony to have a plan, then in 3 years, when the Xbox 360 is crushed underfoot and the Wii is merely a doorstop I shall raise this thread from the ground and prove to everyone that I was right.
(For now I'll just go back to my 360 and Wii and hope they drop the price sometime soon for the PS3, because that definitely wouldn't annoy me)
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
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Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Right now, it's probably only because of the graphics.
Oh man. They just keep pushing themselves faster and faster down this terrible path. I just had an image of what the PS3 is. They're a train heading towards a burning chemical factory. The engineer (Sony) keeps saying "Stoke the fires men! If we pick up enough speed we might derail and totally miss that factory!"
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
I owned a PS2 and I don't get the Killzone hype either.
Killzone made a small splash back then because it was the only notorious PS2-exclusive shooter. It was basically Sony saying me-too. Now, to be fair, Resistance is a far, far superior game anyway, so I'd rather just keep playing that and waiting for the sequel than look forward to Killzone.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
I owned a PS2 and I don't get the Killzone hype either.
As far as I can tell, it's just the graphics. Same for Lair. Neither have an impressive gaming heratige to draw on, but they did at one point look prettier then what the xbox could do.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
i don't know about sales, but Liberation was actually meant to be a good game. As it stands, when i do eventually pick up a PS3, provided Killzone gets some good reviews (and isn't just a pretty face, and i do hear some good stuff from E3), it's a game i'll get. Do i like the dual-shock-style controller for FPS games? No. But hey, can't change that, so i'll take what it comes with. It won't 'kill' Halo for me, that's just my thing. MIght it be a good FPS on the PS3? Sure.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
I owned a PS2 and I don't get the Killzone hype either.
As far as I can tell, it's just the graphics. Same for Lair. Neither have an impressive gaming heratige to draw on, but they did at one point look prettier then what the xbox could do.
Cel proceling.
I think Lair actually looks really good. Rogue Squadron with dragons? Yes please.
Though I'm not convinced at all Factor 5 can get the on-foot stuff right.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
I owned a PS2 and I don't get the Killzone hype either.
As far as I can tell, it's just the graphics. Same for Lair. Neither have an impressive gaming heratige to draw on, but they did at one point look prettier then what the xbox could do.
Cel proceling.
I think Lair actually looks really good. Rogue Squadron with dragons? Yes please.
Though I'm not convinced at all Factor 5 can get the on-foot stuff right.
Rogue Squadron with Dragons sounds fine. Rebel Strike with Dragons sounds like puke on a bluray disc.
I was so burned by Rebel Srike. I just can't trust Factor 5 anymore.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Right now, it's probably only because of the graphics.
Even the baddies aren't as original as we might have been made to believe. image link ( taken from "Kerberos Saga" a series of Japanese films)
And has this been public knowledge or am I a bit behind on the facts?
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Honestly that's exactly like Halo with meaningless hype for a mediocre franchise but Killzone for the PSP was actually a pretty good game and I have hope for Killzone 2 that it will be pretty good.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Honestly that's exactly like Halo with meaningless hype for a mediocre franchise but Killzone for the PSP was actually a pretty good game and I have hope for Killzone 2 that it will be pretty good.
The difference is that Halo is one of the best selling franchises of all time and singlehandedly established the Xbox console as something to be taken seriously in the video game business. And Halo 2 sports arguably the greatest online matchmaking service ever.
Killzone hasnt really done anything besides get hyped.
The reason ignoring this Christmas is stupid is because the vidja game biz is very, VERY based on momentum. Once the sales patterns are set the first year, they rarely change. Once the PS2 cemented in people's minds as the "default" game system, the Xbox and Cube were never able to catch up, even with awesome games.
The same thing has also happened to the PSP. It's finally getting good games, but the mindset remains that it's the "disappointing" system. Unless Sony does something drastic, it'll be forever stuck with the mindset of "absurdly expensive," even after price drops and awesome games. Sony can't afford to blow off this Christmas, especially as strong as Nintendo and Microsoft's line-ups seem to be this year.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
I will completely admit that Killzone 1 was a mediocre game (though if the framerate were stable, I would've called it 'good'). The framerate was attrocious, the AI was stupid, the level design was mediocre and the story was poor (although I loved the setting and world they created).
But there are still reasons why I think Killzone 2 will be a very good game. First off, Killzone: Liberation was a fantastic game, one of my favourite games on the PSP. Secondly, the impressions have been really good. N'Gai (probably one of the best gaming journalists around) said it played really well and he really enjoyed the cover mechanics. And lastly, the setting is still really cool. Seriously, go search on youtube for the "Killzone intro" and watch it.
Joril: Yeah, it was argued in the Killzone 2 thread. I argued back that even the guys from the Kerberos Saga were pretty much ripoffs of Star Wars' stormtroopers (sans the orange eyes). I mean, yeah, I definitely think the Helghast were inspired by the Kerberos Saga but they can all be traced back to some point.
Balefuego: Uh, Killzone 1 sold over 2 million copies... Or is that nothing?
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Honestly that's exactly like Halo with meaningless hype for a mediocre franchise but Killzone for the PSP was actually a pretty good game and I have hope for Killzone 2 that it will be pretty good.
The difference is that Halo is one of the best selling franchises of all time and singlehandedly established the Xbox console as something to be taken seriously in the video game business. And Halo 2 sports arguably the greatest online matchmaking service ever.
Killzone hasnt really done anything besides get hyped.
So you're saying Halo isn't pretty much hype? ALl I heard during Halo 2s release was "Id blow the multiplayer but the singleplayer campaign can blow me"
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Joril: Yeah, it was argued in the Killzone 2 thread. I argued back that even the guys from the Kerberos Saga were pretty much ripoffs of Star Wars' stormtroopers (sans the orange eyes). I mean, yeah, I definitely think the Helghast were inspired by the Kerberos Saga but they can all be traced back to some point.
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looks like
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I mean, you can make a Darth Vader connection for sure, but stormtroopers?.
Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
Honestly that's exactly like Halo with meaningless hype for a mediocre franchise but Killzone for the PSP was actually a pretty good game and I have hope for Killzone 2 that it will be pretty good.
The difference is that Halo is one of the best selling franchises of all time and singlehandedly established the Xbox console as something to be taken seriously in the video game business. And Halo 2 sports arguably the greatest online matchmaking service ever.
Killzone hasnt really done anything besides get hyped.
So you're saying Halo isn't pretty much hype? ALl I heard during Halo 2s release was "Id blow the multiplayer but the singleplayer campaign can blow me"
Actually what I was saying is that Halo has proved itself to be a system selling franchise and Killzone has... not. But can we not turn this into one of those threads.
And Unco: I didn't know it had sold that well, I'm kinda shocked by that actually.
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spent too much time watching Speed, not enough time studying physics. Also, i refer you to my sig.
I think it was just some dude making a funny video close to Christmas, back when they were actually hard to find and people weren't taking the Wii very seriously.
Part of the idea is that they're doing something totally stupid that clearly won't work and only moving themselves faster to a disastrous end.
And Xbox 360 is obviously the bus. Duh.
no seriously? Does that somehow take away from our "lol sony" stance?
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Lol Sony.
God that felt good. Alright, go about your business people, nothing to see.
And considering the amount of early adopters out there isn't a whole hell of a lot... well... fuck em. Gotta have the games to win the race, and gotta have the console base to get the games.
I think that Sony knows they won't be able to combat Halo 3's release and are instead saying "well, we'll ride out this year and then next year, we'll launch our attack when MS don't have their Halo 3". And then we'll see MGS4, GT5, LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Killzone 2, White Knight Story and Resistance 2 next year.
While MS pumps out the Alan Wake, Fable 2, PGR4, and people discover other games besides H3 came out for the 360 during XMas.
I gotta wonder if people at game companies who are releasing in November are masochistic.
I think what you'll see for them, rather than a big rush at the start, then tailing off into lower numbers, is a more prolonged stream of sales. I won't be able to buy everything as it comes out, so i'll be picking up games over the following months, as i expect many others to do. This should keep sales of 360 games at a nice average, rather than lots of spikes and dips.
LOL Sony.
Man, that felt good.
At this point, I have to seriously wonder whether or not the various Sony execs actually COMMUNICATE with each other.
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(For now I'll just go back to my 360 and Wii and hope they drop the price sometime soon for the PS3, because that definitely wouldn't annoy me)
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Y'know, I have to be honest: this one still baffles the fuck out of me. Why is Killzone still listed as a hot, exclusive Playstation franchise? I remember the hype for the first one: "OMG teh_Halo [email protected]!!11!111" It turned out to be a rather mediocre title (I'm being generous here). If I remember correctly, the PSP Killzone title didn't fare too well either.
I confess: I've never owned a Playstation, and the last time I touched a PS control it was attached to a PS1 (I went from PC gaming to to the N64/Dreamcast, and then to Xbox and the 360). So I'm not familiar with most of the exlusive Sony franchises outside of what I read about them.
But I still wonder: why does Killzone still get touted as one of the top tier exlusive franchises for Sony? I know that the claim of it being a "Halo killer" makes for a good marketing tactic and keeps the word "Killzone" alive in the gaming press, but c'mon. This franchise has proven to be mediocre at best and Killzone 2 will have to prove itself as a top tier title at release.
Why do we keep seeing meaningless hype on this series?
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Right now, it's probably only because of the graphics.
That was the best boss in Starfox 64.
I owned a PS2 and I don't get the Killzone hype either.
As far as I can tell, it's just the graphics. Same for Lair. Neither have an impressive gaming heratige to draw on, but they did at one point look prettier then what the xbox could do.
i don't know about sales, but Liberation was actually meant to be a good game. As it stands, when i do eventually pick up a PS3, provided Killzone gets some good reviews (and isn't just a pretty face, and i do hear some good stuff from E3), it's a game i'll get. Do i like the dual-shock-style controller for FPS games? No. But hey, can't change that, so i'll take what it comes with. It won't 'kill' Halo for me, that's just my thing. MIght it be a good FPS on the PS3? Sure.
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I think Lair actually looks really good. Rogue Squadron with dragons? Yes please.
Though I'm not convinced at all Factor 5 can get the on-foot stuff right.
Rogue Squadron with Dragons sounds fine. Rebel Strike with Dragons sounds like puke on a bluray disc.
I was so burned by Rebel Srike. I just can't trust Factor 5 anymore.
Even the baddies aren't as original as we might have been made to believe.
image link ( taken from "Kerberos Saga" a series of Japanese films)
And has this been public knowledge or am I a bit behind on the facts?
Honestly that's exactly like Halo with meaningless hype for a mediocre franchise but Killzone for the PSP was actually a pretty good game and I have hope for Killzone 2 that it will be pretty good.
The difference is that Halo is one of the best selling franchises of all time and singlehandedly established the Xbox console as something to be taken seriously in the video game business. And Halo 2 sports arguably the greatest online matchmaking service ever.
Killzone hasnt really done anything besides get hyped.
The same thing has also happened to the PSP. It's finally getting good games, but the mindset remains that it's the "disappointing" system. Unless Sony does something drastic, it'll be forever stuck with the mindset of "absurdly expensive," even after price drops and awesome games. Sony can't afford to blow off this Christmas, especially as strong as Nintendo and Microsoft's line-ups seem to be this year.
I will completely admit that Killzone 1 was a mediocre game (though if the framerate were stable, I would've called it 'good'). The framerate was attrocious, the AI was stupid, the level design was mediocre and the story was poor (although I loved the setting and world they created).
But there are still reasons why I think Killzone 2 will be a very good game. First off, Killzone: Liberation was a fantastic game, one of my favourite games on the PSP. Secondly, the impressions have been really good. N'Gai (probably one of the best gaming journalists around) said it played really well and he really enjoyed the cover mechanics. And lastly, the setting is still really cool. Seriously, go search on youtube for the "Killzone intro" and watch it.
Joril: Yeah, it was argued in the Killzone 2 thread. I argued back that even the guys from the Kerberos Saga were pretty much ripoffs of Star Wars' stormtroopers (sans the orange eyes). I mean, yeah, I definitely think the Helghast were inspired by the Kerberos Saga but they can all be traced back to some point.
Balefuego: Uh, Killzone 1 sold over 2 million copies... Or is that nothing?
So you're saying Halo isn't pretty much hype? ALl I heard during Halo 2s release was "Id blow the multiplayer but the singleplayer campaign can blow me"
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I mean, you can make a Darth Vader connection for sure, but stormtroopers?.
I actually think they're about to come out the other side.
Actually what I was saying is that Halo has proved itself to be a system selling franchise and Killzone has... not. But can we not turn this into one of those threads.
And Unco: I didn't know it had sold that well, I'm kinda shocked by that actually.
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Ah, but Sony is a Japanese company already, no?
So they're really trying to sell well in.....
THE OCEAN.