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Disgaea - Where everything is a grind fest.

SulSeekerSulSeeker Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
So I traded a desktop for this guys PS2 and a few games, notably Grand theft Auto SA, Grand Tourismo 3 A-Spec and Disgaea.

Played everything else at one time or another so I popped in the Disgaea disc, hit the power button, and completely LOST yesterday. Ho Lee Crap.

To catch you guys up with where I'm at. In the first go around, tried to run though everything like I do in most other RPGS, got slaughtered in Vyers castle by Braggarts (SP?) and started over, (Do'h for not saving it.) Played a few levels over again to get my team's levels built... Laharl, Etna, and 3 prinnys. Still I feel like I'm going no where.

Then Lo and behold I figured out how to get more people on my team, YAY!!!! Wait, they have to be levelled up too. :x GRR...

Found out I can get a lotta cheap crap from the magnificent gate, I've done it about 50 times already. Yay for the geo stones or whatever. Finally have a party capable of beating mid-boss. Then i go online and start reading about this game on gamefaqs and found out you dudes can hit lvl 9999.

LVL 9999!!!!!!!!!

Once more for emphasis... LEVEL 9999!!!!!!!!!

Ok, this game has WAY too many things to do before I attack it again without guidance. So I'm posting to get tips and stratagies here.


Oh... and yeah... you can level up your weapons/armors/items, etc too... WHAT?!?!?! Totally lost now. TYVM.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Wait 'till he learns your stats can raise in the millions and you can deal damage in the billions. My friend had so much gold in the game that the number was larger than the box.

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  • DeswaDeswa Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You'd know more about all of this if you talked to the NPCs. Also, level 9999 isnt really the highest level, since you can make your character revert to level 1 with improved stats. Someone here has a pic of a godly character.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited July 2007
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    Though the smart monkeys just abuse the capture mechanics to hit level 9999.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That fightens me Aroduc

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited July 2007
    If it means anything, I didn't do it. It's from Holystar.

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  • SulSeekerSulSeeker Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ok, I'm done.

    Seriously... thats insane. How long does it take to get to that level?

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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Pata wrote: »
    That arouses me Aroduc

    Great, no PM64 for me tonight. And I'm near the end, too.

    Thanks a lot, thread.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SulSeeker wrote: »
    Ok, I'm done.

    Seriously... thats insane. How long does it take to get to that level?

    you don't need to get to level 9999 if you don't want to.

    you can beat the game around lv 80 i think...

    its just most of us have fetishes for high numbers

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'd post mine, but it's small and insignificant next to that monster.

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  • KimFidlerKimFidler Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I played my copy until I passed it, checked it off my list, and went onto something else.

    There definitely is a ton of stuff to do though.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Aroduc wrote: »
    If it means anything, I didn't do it. It's from Holystar.
    Holylancer.

    The very name pains me.

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  • hamburger helperhamburger helper Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm in the same boat with the OP, it's basically a grind-festival.. I really want to get into it, but everytime I play I end up playing the same 4 levels over and over again :/

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm in the same boat with the OP, it's basically a grind-festival.. I really want to get into it, but everytime I play I end up playing the same 4 levels over and over again :/

    the item world is fun if you are sick of playing the exact same level over and over, plus you get to level up your equipment!

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  • hamburger helperhamburger helper Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm in the same boat with the OP, it's basically a grind-festival.. I really want to get into it, but everytime I play I end up playing the same 4 levels over and over again :/

    the item world is fun if you are sick of playing the exact same level over and over, plus you get to level up your equipment!

    Cept none of my guys last past the 3rd floor of any given item. I think I'm doing something wrong

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm in the same boat with the OP, it's basically a grind-festival.. I really want to get into it, but everytime I play I end up playing the same 4 levels over and over again :/

    the item world is fun if you are sick of playing the exact same level over and over, plus you get to level up your equipment!

    Cept none of my guys last past the 3rd floor of any given item. I think I'm doing something wrong

    depending on your level you need to do weaker items.

    you should be starting fights off against guys 5-10 levels lower then you...

    if you get into a bad situation you can always throw people to the next floor if there isnt a gate keeper

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  • Solar FlareSolar Flare Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Apologies for the minor derail, but what are people's opinions of the Disgaea 2 strategy guide? I looked at the preview pdf that was on their forums and it looks to be full of information.

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  • DeswaDeswa Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Most people will use gamefaqs for that, cause its free.

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  • Solar FlareSolar Flare Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    True, but I've found there's not nearly as much in depth information for Disgaea 2 as there is for the original on gamefaqs.

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  • VaregaVarega Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Apologies for the minor derail, but what are people's opinions of the Disgaea 2 strategy guide? I looked at the preview pdf that was on their forums and it looks to be full of information.

    It's a doublejump guide, which basically means a bunch of guys dissect the game, in full detail, and tell you EVERYTHING there is to know about it. Doublejump are amazingly precise, and there's a bunch of stuff detailed in there that you wouldn't even want to think about. It's a great guide by a group of people that actually care about their job. Get it.

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  • Solar FlareSolar Flare Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Thanks, I should have bought it when I bought the game from Gamestop a couple weeks ago. Unfortunately, by the time I had decided to get it, they had stopped stocking it.

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  • bruceskibruceski Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    and in a pinch you can use it to drive off muggers. As strategy guides go, it's big.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I just received Disgaea 1&2 in the mail the other day, and I find myself at a total loss for how to start. Does anyone have any recommendations for the first few episodes, as far as characters to create and level? Also, what is a good way to level up a Cleric. I imagine it has something to do with Mentoring but I'm not entirely sure how that works in combat.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SulSeeker wrote: »
    Ok, I'm done.

    Seriously... thats insane. How long does it take to get to that level?

    Depends. If you follow a guide, a few weeks of work. If you don't, well, you should just enjoy it. It has one of the best stories of any SRPG.

    Really, Disgaea is the first one that I know of to really throw off the "Zomg, we're pretentious politicians" storyline cliche that Tactics Ogre / Fire Emblem started so long ago. It really reinvented the genre and established NIS as the SRPG kings.


    BTW, Etna = <3<3<3. Flonne too.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Varega wrote: »
    Apologies for the minor derail, but what are people's opinions of the Disgaea 2 strategy guide? I looked at the preview pdf that was on their forums and it looks to be full of information.

    It's a doublejump guide, which basically means a bunch of guys dissect the game, in full detail, and tell you EVERYTHING there is to know about it. Doublejump are amazingly precise, and there's a bunch of stuff detailed in there that you wouldn't even want to think about. It's a great guide by a group of people that actually care about their job. Get it.

    Protip: Doublejump hired someone who wrote a really kickass GameFAQs Guide and hired him to write for them. So they get super mucho +++ points in my book. Plus their forums freaking rock, with contests to find errors, erratta, updated tricks and strategy, etc etc.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Evangir wrote: »
    I just received Disgaea 1&2 in the mail the other day, and I find myself at a total loss for how to start. Does anyone have any recommendations for the first few episodes, as far as characters to create and level? Also, what is a good way to level up a Cleric. I imagine it has something to do with Mentoring but I'm not entirely sure how that works in combat.
    Have a cleric create a mage (or a few mages). Go into a battle, place the cleric and one of the created mages adjacent to one another. Then have the cleric use mage's spell until it reaches level 1, at which point the spell is usable at any time by the cleric. From there, you can easily pick up kills with the cleric.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    my healers are all like lv 40 when the rest of my party is like 1000, i was never a big fan of clerics while playing

    (although they have saved me more then a few times)

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Also, male Clerics don't unlock a new character class whereas females do, so go female.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited July 2007
    The Disgaea 2 guide is actually kind of a nightmare. There's no index at all, and a lot of the information is put into strange places. Plus, there's a lot of things that just aren't listed at all. So... there's a shitload of information, but good fucking luck finding it.

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  • XenosX_XenosX_ Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I just got Disgaea a few days ago and i've already put in over 30 hours... damn, it's addicting. I opted out of breaking my characters too early using a strategy my friend suggested though...

    The strategy itself, however, is too devious to not introduce here...

    In Jotunheim, there's a map 'Terrible Cold' or something that is filled with those 'sexy demons', where every square except one is invincible. I'm sure a few of you have figured out that combining all the monsters into one with a few choice lift/throws will create a level 100 and something demon which gives off large sums of money and experience after you trap it in that corner and kill it.

    This is where munchkin playing comes in. If you were to be able to pass the 'Stronger Enemies Bill' 20 times, with ample use of bribing and such, you could get a level gain of 400% + 40. A level 500-something demon. Not to mention if you could also pass the '3x Exp' Bill. Imaginably, assuming you were strong enough to do damage to a level 500-something enemy with at least one character, you could grow a large number of levels. Once you defeated it once, doing damage would be less off a problem because with all your newfound wealth, you could buy very powerful equips with the 'more expensive stuff' proposal.

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  • LukinLukin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Aroduc wrote: »
    The Disgaea 2 guide is actually kind of a nightmare. There's no index at all, and a lot of the information is put into strange places. Plus, there's a lot of things that just aren't listed at all. So... there's a shitload of information, but good fucking luck finding it.

    I read the relevant sections dozens of times, and I STILL don't understand the mechanics of Item World.

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  • MightyMighty Omeganaut '15 '16 '17 NebraskaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    want to make a decent cleric that will get exp too? follow this easy guide

    step 1 - have a main character make a cleric pupil (more then likely flonne)

    step 2 - Have this cleric make a mage (red, green or blue)

    step 3 - level the mage and have the cleric near him/her at all times to siphon the magic knowledge from them
    step 4 - use mage magic to level cleric

    Repeat 3 & 4 ad nauseum

    the pupil and mentor stuff bout the game is very deep. about 1/2 of my characters can learn to heal because of a pupil/mentor chain.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I am stuck in Disgaea. I need to level or make better characters or something. I don't know how transmigrating levels works exactly...

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    man fuck the item world and its gay ass random world shit
    spending 4 hours in the item world and dying because you step on an ally damage 20% and invulnerability thinking it wont hurt you is gay.

    also having a single lv 72 creature destroy my base panel because the ass wouldn't get off the invul panel so i had to throw him away into the base...


    GAY

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That's why Mr.Genji's Exit exists.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    i finally petered out in disgaea 2 around 120 hours. i was massively overpowered for the end of the story, but still nowhere near powerful enough for the harder dark sun levels or item worlds or optional bosses. i hit the wall where i just didnt feel like grinding/tweaking stats any more. still though, 2 of my favorite games ever.

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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    So, I skipped Disgaea and jumped straight into Disgaea 2, which leads me to an impass.

    I want to play Disgaea for the story, but how does it hold up to the sequel as far as gameplay? I suppose it's not too horrible, I haven't even really finished the story in 2, I'm at the semi-finals of the battle thinger (7-4). Despite sinking almost 70 hours into it. F*cking item world. Also, I need to read the plot again at gamefaqs, because I forgot everything.

    I also have Phantom Brave sitting there, unfinished. I really like that game as well, and I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the Story (I think). I've also sunk about 120 hours into that one. Should I just finish the story and worry about the item world/random dungeons after that? Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it's fun making gods.

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  • MightyMighty Omeganaut '15 '16 '17 NebraskaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    if you played disgaea 2 first, bear this in mind...

    the story is going to be AWESOME, but the gameplay will be shallower. you wont have felonies and the item world with be a bit less cool.

    i love them both equally. but, they both have thier ups and downs.
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I am stuck in Disgaea. I need to level or make better characters or something. I don't know how transmigrating levels works exactly...
    Transmigrating is resetting your character to level 1, and then receiving bonuses for the ## of levels you have stored in your character. However, the 1st time you transmigrate, the a majority of the bonuses don't apply.
    the other thing you need to keep in mind is that the new character does *not* get to keep the mana they have stored. so make sure that your transmigration uses 95% of their mana. if you are a few hundred short, go grind up some kills and come back. also, do not bother with low level transmigrations, go with genius or 1 level less.

    just my .02

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Another way to level up a healer (at least in Disgaea 2, I never played the first game) is to involve the healer in combo attacks, which will give a share of experience to everyone involved in the attack.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Djiem wrote: »
    That's why Mr.Genji's Exit exists.
    Mr. Gency.

    Sorry. It always bothers me when someone messes that up.

    There's even kind of a pun built in there.

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  • Bob The MonkeyBob The Monkey Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Interesting fact: Not only did I not know you could capture enemies through my entire first play of Disgaea, I refused to believe that there were even when several people tried to tell me.

    Because it takes a leap of faith to imagine you could play anything for hundreds of hours without picking up on one of the key mechanics.

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