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The Wii sales will overtake 360 sales sometime in the near future. And then the PS3 lags behind by quite a big amount of units.
On the latest 1UP Yours, it was mentioned that if ALL 360 sales were ceased, it would still take the PS3 thirty months to catch up (given it sells the same amount it's selling now).
It seems obvious the Wii will be the sales giant of this generation.
Does the PS3 really have any chance of overtaking the 360 or the Wii?
The Wii sales will overtake 360 sales sometime in the near future. And then the PS3 lags behind by quite a big amount of units.
On the latest 1UP Yours, it was mentioned that if ALL 360 sales were ceased, it would still take the PS3 thirty months to catch up (given it sells the same amount it's selling now).
It seems obvious the Wii will be the sales giant of this generation.
Does the PS3 really have any chance of overtaking the 360 or the Wii?
Didn't Sony say that they actually believe in selling 10 million PS3s in the fiscal year of 2007?
The Wii sales will overtake 360 sales sometime in the near future. And then the PS3 lags behind by quite a big amount of units.
On the latest 1UP Yours, it was mentioned that if ALL 360 sales were ceased, it would still take the PS3 thirty months to catch up (given it sells the same amount it's selling now).
It seems obvious the Wii will be the sales giant of this generation.
Does the PS3 really have any chance of overtaking the 360 or the Wii?
Didn't Sony say that they actually believe in selling 10 million PS2s in the fiscal year of 2007?
Fixed.
Are they stuck? I dunno. They are a bit more competitive in Japan than Microsoft, so they still have an ok chance to make some damage when the big hitters arrive over there.
When is that going to be? Well, quite some time from now to say the least.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
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The Wii sales will overtake 360 sales sometime in the near future. And then the PS3 lags behind by quite a big amount of units.
On the latest 1UP Yours, it was mentioned that if ALL 360 sales were ceased, it would still take the PS3 thirty months to catch up (given it sells the same amount it's selling now).
It seems obvious the Wii will be the sales giant of this generation.
Does the PS3 really have any chance of overtaking the 360 or the Wii?
Didn't Sony say that they actually believe in selling 10 million PS2s in the fiscal year of 2007?
Fixed.
Are they stuck? I dunno. They are a bit more competitive in Japan than Microsoft, so they still have an ok chance to make some damage when the big hitters arrive over there.
When is that going to be? Well, quite some time from now to say the least.
"Sony have been talking financials today, confirming their Q1 2007 results, revealing their sales to date and projections for the future. Perhaps most notably, the company are predicting PS3 worldwide sales of 14.5 million by April 2008.
Back to the present, however, and at the end of Q1 worldwide sales of the next-gen system stand at 4.48 million units. Q1 sales totaled 0.71 million worldwide, with the majority of the consoles sold so far being shifted in Q3/4 2006. The platform holder needs to sell 10.29 million units in the remaining three quarters of the year, to hit the 14.5 million target. That's quite a lot."
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
Nintendo has four heavy hitters we know about coming out within a year. Metroid, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart. You can buy two Wii's (if you could find them) for the cost of a PS3. A whole bunch of the PS3's big titles this year are on the 360, which itself is up to $200 cheaper.
I think the Wii interest will dwindle after a while, but after all that's said and done, will any of the other consoles be able to catch up?
I mean, the Wii at the moment, shows no sign of slowing down, sales wise. It's selling more than the PS3 and the 360 put together, every month.
I also have to wonder though, did Sony come too late to the party? Sure the Wii was released around the same time as the PS3, but the Wii is a shit load cheaper.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
Is there any actual evidence that interesti n teh Wii is dropping with most gamers? Even if it is, why will they go to the PS3 instead of the 360?
Well, consider how the playstation2 struggled 4 good games in the beginning (most being bad or too short to enjoy) but after a few quality games came out it took off and has outsold the other two systems in every region.
Now, considering that there might be a lot of people like me who have their PS2 and won't need a PS3 for a while and the xbox360 doesn't have much to draw me (yet), we will probably stick to our generation 1 PS2 for a long while until FFXII, MGS4, AC6, GTAVI, and any other sequel of glory comes out.
In the meantime, we are really pausing and looking at the Wii for the virtual console. The fact that we can easily get these old school games we love for a low price (legally) is really exciting and for today's parent who is worried about the game making their kid a serial killer. Why by a new controversial game when you can by an old school masterpiece for much cheaper. (the previous was a concept that has not been realized by the major networks).
Is it true that the xbox and 360 have yet to make up their development costs?
edit: If Sony could engineer a way for their older PSOne games to suddenly become online on the PS3 then things could become veery iiinteresting.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
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I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
July 17, 2007 - All hyped up for new Final Fantasy XIII details to accompany today's Tokyo PlayStation Premiere press conference? Well settle down, because we only have one tiny bit of info.
According to Sony's press materials, the highly anticipated RPG sequel is now 13% complete. Yes, a low, unlucky completion percentage. But thankfully it's not as low as Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which is listed as 1.3%!
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
That 13 percent done thing was a joke.
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I don't know what to believe anymore! My head = asplode. Bu only 13% of it.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
That 13 percent done thing was a joke.
Oh. Didn't see anything on it being a joke afterwards.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
Is there any actual evidence that interesti n teh Wii is dropping with most gamers? Even if it is, why will they go to the PS3 instead of the 360?
None. That's why its always prefaced with the word feeling. It is really hard to come up with actual numbers that say that when you start expanding your market you somehow lose sales.
Consider this. Zelda is only around 100k units away from being the best selling non pack in, non comes with a controller game of this generation. It has already outsold the last two console mainstream zelda titles. People, and not just those who owned a gamecube, are buying this system, and will continue to buy titles like Brawl and Kart and Galaxy that cater to both hardcore and casual players.
Well, consider how the playstation2 struggled 4 good games in the beginning (most being bad or too short to enjoy) but after a few quality games came out it took off and has outsold the other two systems in every region.
yea, when the ps2 launched, its mayor competition was the bleeding sega with their dreamcast, oh, and it had a decent amount of time to build a userbase, and it was sold for a sane price.
the ps3 launched last, with an "ok" lineup, for a stupidly high price, and its competition? microsoft, determined to win the console war, literally, no matter the cost, and a new revitalized nintendo under Iwata and the gargantuan success of the DS.
Sony is using the same tactics in a different battlefield, IMO, thats why they are losing.
But they will pay big bucks for exclusives, so it will still get good games.
hasnt sony gone on the record by saying they wont pay for exclusives?
They pretty much did an interview the other day talking about buying up some unnamed Rockstar game.
I honestly believe that they were trying to get out of the whole paying for exclusive things, and then they learned that they couldn't sell a $600 forman grill with no good exclusives on it.
I get the feeling that the Wii interest might actually start to dwindle in the near future, especially when heavy-hitters start releasing for the PS3 (FFXIII, MGS4). While I wouldn't think it wise to overestimate the impact those games are going to have, I also don't think it's any better to underestimate how fast interest in the Wii is dropping with gamers.
Is there any actual evidence that interesti n teh Wii is dropping with most gamers? Even if it is, why will they go to the PS3 instead of the 360?
None. That's why its always prefaced with the word feeling. It is really hard to come up with actual numbers that say that when you start expanding your market you somehow lose sales.
Consider this. Zelda is only around 100k units away from being the best selling non pack in, non comes with a controller game of this generation. It has already outsold the last two console mainstream zelda titles. People, and not just those who owned a gamecube, are buying this system, and will continue to buy titles like Brawl and Kart and Galaxy that cater to both hardcore and casual players.
Whenever folks talk about the Wii losing interest/momentum, I always look at this:
Graciously stolen from Htown from the sales thread:
quote:
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 13.9 / 86.1, PS3's highest in a month. This brings the total shares to 24.8 / 75.2; Wii hits the PS3 triple point. Due to PS3's higher-than-usual week, if Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up to Wii in 161.5 weeks (August 4, 2010).
Ho-lee shit!
Ho-lee shit is right. The ultimate momentum loss is total stoppage. Even with that impossible idea, still 2010 till the PS3 catches up...damn
Unless Sony is completely retarded, they have to drop the entry price for the PS3 on a permanent basis, which should increase their buy in figures a lot.
That said, I don't see Sony dominating this generation like the last, I'd take a guess and say it'll be relegated to a reasonable third position (maybe somewhat better than like the Gamecube had) with the Xbox 360 and the Wii both being very strong in terms of games, install base and additional features, but aimed at slightly different areas of the gamer market.
The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
I don't understand that one bit.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
I don't understand that one bit.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
I love this post. It is full of awesome and win. And it confirms that Lost Oddysey/Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata are not only not JRPGs, but will only be 10 hours long! Oh noez!
The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
I don't understand that one bit.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
I love this post. It is full of awesome and win. And it confirms that Lost Oddysey/Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata are not only not JRPGs, but will only be 10 hours long! Oh noez!
while the 360 is starting to get jrpgs, they're still lacking and sony has always had the upper hand on JRPGs l
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The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
I don't understand that one bit.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
I love this post. It is full of awesome and win. And it confirms that Lost Oddysey/Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata are not only not JRPGs, but will only be 10 hours long! Oh noez!
Hey guys! let's take someones opinion and assume they mean everything in the most extreme sense!
The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
I don't understand that one bit.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
I love this post. It is full of awesome and win. And it confirms that Lost Oddysey/Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata are not only not JRPGs, but will only be 10 hours long! Oh noez!
Hey guys! let's take someones opinion and assume they mean everything in the most extreme sense!
I like how you somehow think JRPGs are "hardcore" and FPSs are "Casual". The PS3 and 360 are the same machine as far as I'm concerned... only one's $200 less.
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Didn't Sony say that they actually believe in selling 10 million PS3s in the fiscal year of 2007?
Nintendo is Doomed.
But they will pay big bucks for exclusives, so it will still get good games.
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Fixed.
Are they stuck? I dunno. They are a bit more competitive in Japan than Microsoft, so they still have an ok chance to make some damage when the big hitters arrive over there.
When is that going to be? Well, quite some time from now to say the least.
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"Sony have been talking financials today, confirming their Q1 2007 results, revealing their sales to date and projections for the future. Perhaps most notably, the company are predicting PS3 worldwide sales of 14.5 million by April 2008.
Back to the present, however, and at the end of Q1 worldwide sales of the next-gen system stand at 4.48 million units. Q1 sales totaled 0.71 million worldwide, with the majority of the consoles sold so far being shifted in Q3/4 2006. The platform holder needs to sell 10.29 million units in the remaining three quarters of the year, to hit the 14.5 million target. That's quite a lot."
Copied from the video game sales thread.
FF XIII is coming out anytime soon? I think not.
Nintendo has four heavy hitters we know about coming out within a year. Metroid, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart. You can buy two Wii's (if you could find them) for the cost of a PS3. A whole bunch of the PS3's big titles this year are on the 360, which itself is up to $200 cheaper.
I mean, the Wii at the moment, shows no sign of slowing down, sales wise. It's selling more than the PS3 and the 360 put together, every month.
I also have to wonder though, did Sony come too late to the party? Sure the Wii was released around the same time as the PS3, but the Wii is a shit load cheaper.
Now, considering that there might be a lot of people like me who have their PS2 and won't need a PS3 for a while and the xbox360 doesn't have much to draw me (yet), we will probably stick to our generation 1 PS2 for a long while until FFXII, MGS4, AC6, GTAVI, and any other sequel of glory comes out.
In the meantime, we are really pausing and looking at the Wii for the virtual console. The fact that we can easily get these old school games we love for a low price (legally) is really exciting and for today's parent who is worried about the game making their kid a serial killer. Why by a new controversial game when you can by an old school masterpiece for much cheaper. (the previous was a concept that has not been realized by the major networks).
Is it true that the xbox and 360 have yet to make up their development costs?
edit: If Sony could engineer a way for their older PSOne games to suddenly become online on the PS3 then things could become veery iiinteresting.
According to Sony, FF XIII is thirteen percent done. That isn't even counting how long it will take for it to be translated. FF XIII versus is listed as 1.3 percent.
Is this real? or are you bullshitting us?
That's a joke right? 13 13 lol?
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Oh. Didn't see anything on it being a joke afterwards.
None. That's why its always prefaced with the word feeling. It is really hard to come up with actual numbers that say that when you start expanding your market you somehow lose sales.
Consider this. Zelda is only around 100k units away from being the best selling non pack in, non comes with a controller game of this generation. It has already outsold the last two console mainstream zelda titles. People, and not just those who owned a gamecube, are buying this system, and will continue to buy titles like Brawl and Kart and Galaxy that cater to both hardcore and casual players.
hasnt sony gone on the record by saying they wont pay for exclusives?
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Even if they have, do you believe them?
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yes
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yea, when the ps2 launched, its mayor competition was the bleeding sega with their dreamcast, oh, and it had a decent amount of time to build a userbase, and it was sold for a sane price.
the ps3 launched last, with an "ok" lineup, for a stupidly high price, and its competition? microsoft, determined to win the console war, literally, no matter the cost, and a new revitalized nintendo under Iwata and the gargantuan success of the DS.
Sony is using the same tactics in a different battlefield, IMO, thats why they are losing.
They pretty much did an interview the other day talking about buying up some unnamed Rockstar game.
I honestly believe that they were trying to get out of the whole paying for exclusive things, and then they learned that they couldn't sell a $600 forman grill with no good exclusives on it.
Whenever folks talk about the Wii losing interest/momentum, I always look at this:
Graciously stolen from Htown from the sales thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6940463&postcount=294
quote:
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 13.9 / 86.1, PS3's highest in a month. This brings the total shares to 24.8 / 75.2; Wii hits the PS3 triple point. Due to PS3's higher-than-usual week, if Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up to Wii in 161.5 weeks (August 4, 2010).
Ho-lee shit!
Ho-lee shit is right. The ultimate momentum loss is total stoppage. Even with that impossible idea, still 2010 till the PS3 catches up...damn
That said, I don't see Sony dominating this generation like the last, I'd take a guess and say it'll be relegated to a reasonable third position (maybe somewhat better than like the Gamecube had) with the Xbox 360 and the Wii both being very strong in terms of games, install base and additional features, but aimed at slightly different areas of the gamer market.
It is an expensive, but amazingly capable game playing machine.
Xbox 360 is aiming for a slightly cheaper demographic.
Wii is a arcade console
The PS3 is more for Serious gamers I'm led to beleive, Xbox is more for the relaxed persons.
The Black Hunter's thought process is different from that of rational people, so don't feel bad.
Why? Because it's fucking expensive.
Shut up, my mind rays are picking something up!
ANYHOOT:
What i mean is the Xbox tends to have games geared towards good, short bursts of super fun (Halo for example) which attracts your basic high-school/college male.
PS3, with all it's JRPG's and the like would tend to attract serious gamers.
@Dublo: Cool, accidental logic.
Yes the PC would attract alot of hardcore gamers, though it does get its fair share of attention for your average knucklehead, though it isn't well known in those particular social circles as the Xbox is. The PC is usually "Internets and msn". And you have to be fairly dedicated to keep your PC in the hardware/software "loop" of modern games.
I love this post. It is full of awesome and win. And it confirms that Lost Oddysey/Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata are not only not JRPGs, but will only be 10 hours long! Oh noez!
while the 360 is starting to get jrpgs, they're still lacking and sony has always had the upper hand on JRPGs l
Hey guys! let's take someones opinion and assume they mean everything in the most extreme sense!
I like how you somehow think JRPGs are "hardcore" and FPSs are "Casual". The PS3 and 360 are the same machine as far as I'm concerned... only one's $200 less.
they are not the same machine
i'm not putting 360 down as i am very interested in buying one but they are not the same machine