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The PS3 isn't doing much better. The 360 wasn't so hot until about a year after launch too.
This happens with every system, ever. After the initial launch rush, developers start looking towards the following holiday season, because that's usually when consumers start splurging, and after that there's the usual price drop to definatively push them into the mainstream.
Yes and I'm sure the higher ups and such at Sony care so much about video games. The thing is the Other divisions/bosses at these company's don't care about video games. None of 'em do, it's all a means to an end normally that end is to make money. None of the big three are excluded you just seem to want to pin this purely on microsoft.
I'm starting to feel the same way, except I won't sell my Wii.
I'm still waiting for a game that isn't a party game, isn't a port of a GC game (or didn't start out originally as a GC game), and uses the Wii remote well enough for me to say "I can't imagine playing this with a normal controller." That game hasn't happened yet...maybe Metroid Prime 3 will be that game.
So far for the Wii I've played:
Zelda - GC port, Wii controls were nice but not necessary
Sonic - Decent game but again the Wii Controls didn't astound me
Super Paper Mario - I really loved this game but it started life on the GC and really didn't use the Wii remote at all
RE4 - GC port but in this instance I really liked the Wii remote controls
Does it really matter to us gamers what the parent company's end goal is? Yes, it's pretty apparent that MS wants its software and services everywhere, and Sony wants its hardware everywhere, and Nintendo just wants to continue dominating in the games business (and it's making a ploy to casual/non-gamers to do so). It's a no brainer really. These are corporations, after all, trying to make a profit.
In the meantime, if they end up providing games and services that we all enjoy and are willing to pay for, isn't that really what matters in the end?
I know that Sony's using the PS3 to push Blu-ray, because it believes its good for their parent company overall. Personally, I don't like it because it pushes up the price of the PS3 quite a bit. That said, I'll still get one eventually (probably next year, MGS4 just looks too sweet to pass up). I don't think I have a moral responsibility to "punish" Sony just because they're doing what they think is good for their business. I may not agree with it personally, but I'm not a shareholder so I don't really care. All I see is a gaming machine with a lot of untapped potential.
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how dare Microsoft try and make money, they should be making games out of the goodness of their hearts, like every other developer, ever.
I'm not sure where people get the idea that because Microsoft to succeed as much as possible they are evil. It's not as though Sony or Nintendo, if they were to suddenly possess 95% of the market, would suddenly step back and say "Okay you guys, we're gonna stop making consoles now just to stop the sheer rape."
So why did you sell it, if you intend to pick one up again? It makes no sense to me.
I don't think it's any surprise what has happened to the Wii. No one expected it to be such a huge hit and because of this, developers didn't really focus on it, at least not beyond the "make a lazy release and see if it sells" games. But now it's here and developers are busy changing their plans to include the Wii, which is going to see a ton of software in time, much like the DS.
Anyone starved for entertainment in the meantime can amuse themselves with their 360 or by picking up old GameCube games, which are dead cheap now.
perhaps I could have held onto it - I'm trying to break the game collector habit not that anyone cares lmfao.
You might want to try to get one before the holidays though since the big N games will be coming out.
By that time, all the Platformer/FPS/fighter "core" players will be trying to get the Wii and with the casual players trying to get the Wii for the holidays, I can see a very severe shortage for the system in the holidays.
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On the other hand the HDDVD add on from MS would probaly make more economical sense ... but I can't help but think that now is the time to get a PS3 ... while the price is abit lower and it still has the PS2 emotawhatever chip in it.
sometimes it feels like i'm the only person on these forums that's completely satisfied with their wii. *shrugs* i love that little thing.
Make that two of us. I'm very happy with my wii, I've got enough games to keep me occupied until the next big releases come out, and I'm very excited about its potential. I think it was an excellent purchase.
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Because the other two systems have far more important heavy sales-hitting games coming out this year.
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its more of a case of not minding well made ports. there are quite a few wii games that people berate as invalid gaming options because they're "ports." But that's just short changing yourself. Quite a few of those games are really well done and suit the wii's controller very well. The only "mini-game" centric title I have is warioware and that game is pure unmitigated awesome.
that said, porting does really have to stop and thankfully it looks to be. everything thus far has only been to temporarily satiate my hunger for the holy trinity coming this winter. that is a feast my palate eagerly awaits.
but they gots teh blu-ray...? and a higher price so they wont annoy customers
edit: someone needs to make a game on strikers thread tomorrow. GET ON IT.
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Somehow I don't think Nintendo approves their name and their product's name being on there.
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Has the next gen started yet?
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That is why the PS3 is doing so poorly; Sony forgot to say that the next gen has started.
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The only minigame-heavy wii game i own is Monkey Ball, and even that I play entirely single player. Between Zelda, Super Paper Mario, and RE4, I already have more games than I have time to play them, and those are all long single player quests.
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With the way things keep progressing, I expect a press statement soon with them saying "Next gen doesn't begin until MGS4 and FFXIII come out, nyah."
It's a common phrase uttered in every version of these threads. "Once MGS4 and FFXIII come out, you'll see". Well, guess there's nothing to do but sit back and enjoy the "ride" until then.
I love that every single time somebody levels a complaint against MS, some asshat like Psycho Internet Hawk will chime in with a retarded straw man. I have no problems with companies making money, as that is what they exist to do.
Let's make a comparison. Who here doesn't like the way EA is treating football games? I expect the majority of people would answer a hearty "I don't!" to that question. Microsoft has been pulling shit just like that and worse in the PC world for the past two decades, and the trend isn't stopping. I want them out of the home console market because I've seen the way they've acted towards competitors and the way they treat their customers for years before, and it doesn't sit right with me that they're basically going to try and do the same thing here.
Sony trying to corner the high-end AV market is old hat. They are offering up a media format, just like they did with Philips with the CD, but this time they've tacked it on to something in an effort to increase its saturation. At no point do they seem to want to put stringent limitations on anything involving the media, they just want to make a chunk of money when it's used.
Look to Microsoft's historical dealings, however, and you notice patterns of shutting down competitors through force, increasingly restrictive computer use with stuff like the TCPA, shady liscensing deals with OS bundling, terrible support for its products, and a variety of other criticisms that can be easily levelled at them.
I don't like them in the console business because of the way they've acted in the PC business, and as such, I don't think it's in this industry's best interests for the 360 to be a dominant power among the more hardcore gamers. I'm glad the Wii is incessantly propelled forward, but it does make me a bit sad that the PS3 is losing ground - and I recognize that Sony made its own bed - with much of the gaming community.
Let me just tell you, I might have read wrong, or misinterpreted, but whoever said that after awhile, casual gamers would get bored of the Wii and get a PS3/360, you're wrong. These "casual gamers" would like.. read a book instead. Sony in third place? Yes.
I still hate them for the Lik Sang fiasco. Wtf. Yes, shut down a website for selling YOUR product to people who WANTED it.
I'll just say one thing: All businesses, in a position of power in any market, act the same way. If Nintendo ends up with a monopoly in video gaming, you can bet they'll pull a Microsoft. That's the unfortunate reality of all monopolies. You act like only M$ (lolol) is evil enough to use underhanded business practices and shady deals; don't forget that Nintendo has a long history of doing the same. What you should be worried about is that any one manufacturer gains a monopoly on the market, not just if it's Microsoft.
Shining Force and Paper Mario are now on the VC. That's more than enough time killing right now.
So the whole Wii has no good games is relative to the person.
I'm more concerned about what Microsoft's willing to do to get to where they want to go. The console gaming market is a stepping stone to them, and little else.
Probably the same things that Nintendo tried in the '90s. Just like all big corporations, Microsoft will often crush, maim, and destroy all in their path to accomplish their goals. Last I checked, Nintendo and Sony were also big corporations. So again, you should be worried if any manufacturer gains a monopoly in the market. Not just Microsoft.
I'm glad someone knows what the deal is. I'm enjoying having 3 companies battle it out right now. If Sony had just decided to release the PS3 at $600 with no competition (Although a reasonable argument could be made they wouldn't have developed the Cell or packed in BluRay if there was no competition to begin with, but just for arguments sake let's assume they do), there wouldn't have been a price drop... or improved models... or a lower entry-point $499 PS3... or any of that good stuff.
Same goes for any of the others.
3-way competition is good.
The same goes for Sony, who (like Microsoft) has several product lines that sort-of relate to gaming, but not really.