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How do I get out of this relationship?

ZifnabZifnab Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
My girlfriend and I have been together for almost 3 years now. I'm 23, she's 21. Lately (past several months), I've begun to enjoy the relationship less and less and now it's basically an obligation. I know that things need to be ended, both for my own well-being and out of respect for her (not being in a halfhearted relationship, etc). Normally, I can handle stuff like this on my own, but this is a very special situation with a number of unique problems, and I'm not entirely sure how to handle it. I'm glossing over a lot because it doesn't seem necessary, and I don't think that staying with her or not is up for debate any more. I've made a decision, but I have no idea how to act on it.

One of the other issues in play is that I'm a giant pussy about stuff like this. I have an almost neurotic need to avoid hurting other people, especially those I care about, and have put myself through some serious shit to prevent the most minor stuff from time to time. Also, she lives 6 hours away, which makes these sorts of things particularly difficult. I've let this go on and faked my way through things for way too long, and that's going to bite me in the ass big time, but that's just more crow for me to eat here. I'm more concerned about what will happen when she asks "How long?" and the only answer I have is "At least 6 months.."

I'm just looking for some solid advice on some questions that I can't adequately answer for myself:

-Do I drive out there to do it? I've always believed in doing it in person, but that's a long haul. I'm not afraid to man up and do it, though, if I ought to. The issue is that with our schedules, that limits me to Aug. 5th or 16-20, or I stay with her until January. She's at a festival right now, I go on vacation the 7th, and she's spending the next semester in Vienna. Is it better to do it over the phone now than to wait until one of those times? How do I tell her I'm coming and let her get excited only for me to show up and dump her?

-What do I tell her? I don't dislike her, it's not her fault that this isn't working, I'm just not enjoying myself any more. I don't feel like she's going to understand that in the way you can understand "I've found someone else". Also, she thinks things are fine, as far as I know, and she's very dependant on this relationship. Is there a way to do this that's not going to be incredibly messy? Painful I can understand, I guess, but this could easily turn into an absolute train wreck of a breakup.

Any thoughts? Any general advice? Despite my age, I've only broken up with one other person, and we both knew it was coming. I feel ridiculous, very much like high school 'omg wut do I do?!', but I'm honestly at a loss. You guys have always had excellent advice for all sorts of situation, so hopefully you can put me back on the right track.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zifnab wrote: »

    -What do I tell her? I don't dislike her, it's not her fault that this isn't working, I'm just not enjoying myself any more. I don't feel like she's going to understand that in the way you can understand "I've found someone else". Also, she thinks things are fine, as far as I know, and she's very dependant on this relationship. Is there a way to do this that's not going to be incredibly messy? Painful I can understand, I guess, but this could easily turn into an absolute train wreck of a breakup.

    Watch this.

    Question: What do I tell her?

    Answer: I don't dislike her, it's not her fault that this isn't working, I'm just not enjoying myself any more.

    That was clever wasn't it?

    Relationships fail for all kinds of reasons. There is no real reason you should keep torturing yourself in order not to torture someone else. More importantly because they will get over you in time. If you don't break up then you'll just keep making yourself feel bad.

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    edited July 2007
    Zifnab wrote:
    this could easily turn into an absolute train wreck of a breakup.

    A trainwreck of a breakup is better than a trainwreck of a relationship.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    There's absolutely NO easy way to do it. With regards to what you say, you just be completely honest with her, 100%. You shouldn't feel ashamed or shitty for feeling the way you do, these things happen. You'll no doubt hear the same old questions:

    "How long?"
    "Why didn't you tell me, we could have worked it out?"

    Just, as I said, be as honest as you can with her. It's not like you've cheated or found someone else, it's just one of those things.

    With regard to how to do it, in person is always better but not always practical. I had to split up with someone as we were 3 hours apart (quite a distance in the UK) and I did it via phone, I don't feel good about it and if I'm honest I wished I'd done it in person BUT it got the job done.

    Is there anyway you can drive there without letting her know you're coming, or perhaps prepare her via phone? The infamous line "We need to talk" is a pre-cursor to breaking up, if you use that over the phone and then visit her she'll know something's up.

    No matter what advise folks give you, there isn't an easy way to do this and it will be messy and she'll no doubt be upset. Just be honest and DON'T bend if she tries to convince you to take her back/give her one last chance.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm sure you're about to get all sorts of advice about how to break up and what to say. I know what you mean about not hurting her, what I have seen go wrong is when people - out of fear of hurting someone - dont end it cleanly. Say what you need to say, be as caring and gentle as you need to be... But for the love of god, dont say something like "maybe we can try again later" or "maybe we just need a break" etc. The point is that if you want to break up, and she says "why dont we just get some space and see... Dont say OK unless you mean it.

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  • Aoi TsukiAoi Tsuki Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I feel for you. There is indeed no easy way to do this; the only additional advice I can kick in is that it'd be a very, very bad idea for you to show up out of the blue to break up with her, however gently. Surprising her and then turning it sour with the worst possible news will make her feel even worse than the breakup itself would, especially considering how dependent you say she is on it; arranging a meeting doesn't sound much better, not with the direct, face-to-face fallout and the awkwardness of a long drive with that hanging over your head. Selfish and cowardly? Maybe. I don't think so, but then, I've never been in this situation.

    You know her better than any of us, so you'll have to judge whether practicality should win out. It's certainly got my vote. Either way, best of luck.

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  • WerrickWerrick Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Breaking up in person seems like "The right thing" to do, but it's not always the answer. I find the phone is much better simply because it's so much easier to remove oneself from the situation. In person there's an awkwardness and a need to "act as if...", if you know what I mean.

    Ultimately it's up to you how you do it.

    In terms of what to say... something along the lines of;

    "I really like you, but this relationship isn't working for me anymore." Simple, short, don't pause after the "but", but don't rush through it. Just say it.

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  • SerphimeraSerphimera Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I was going to tell you that you should drive to her place and do it in person, but, with the long distance and your schedules, it really doesn't sound feasible. Whatever you do, you should do it sooner rather than later.

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Im going to put a vote for calling her. I agree in person is better, but with all the obstacles their are to that, telephone seems like a better option for you. Bonus advice: Be clear with what you want to achive talking to her, BEFORE YOU CALL. If she says something like "what about some space or can we work it out" dont say yes just because your pressured to do so. basically don't agree to anything she asks, instead say "ill think about it" or something and decide at a time when you aren't pressured at all and can make a good choice.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Call, have a "script," but don't worry about a messy breakup. She's 6 hours away -- that means you won't just bump into her this weekend.

    Don't 2nd guess yourself about what she'll say. She may be completely surprised and hurt. She may be thinking the same thing.

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  • Butterfly4uButterfly4u Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    When I couldn't break up with my bf, because he did something sweet everytime I tried to break it off I finally just txted him. BUT he was out in the boonies 8 hours away so he couldn't receive phone calls. I'd just call her and tell her what's up. She'll be upset, but the last thing she needs is for you to show up at her place unexpected just to break it off. I think that would hurt her more than a phone call.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    IMO texting a break up or calling to break up just seems disrespectful. Just do it and be done with it, in person, honestly.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Do NOT break up via a text, Christ that's harsh.
    Don't do it by email or voicemail either.
    Suck it up and have the bad talk. She's going to think you're a dick, and you just have to deal with that instead of wanting her not to be upset at you; she is going to be upset at you. And stay and listen to all the crying and hurt, and don't make up afterwards cause you'll just have to do it again.

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  • Butterfly4uButterfly4u Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Djeet wrote: »
    Do NOT break up via a text, Christ that's harsh.
    Don't do it by email or voicemail either.
    Suck it up and have the bad talk. She's going to think you're a dick, and you just have to deal with that instead of wanting her not to be upset at you; she is going to be upset at you. And stay and listen to all the crying and hurt, and don't make up afterwards cause you'll just have to do it again.

    When you don't have the money to go there in person you have no choice other than to do it over the phone. This is one reason why I no longer even contemplate having another long distance relationship.

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  • phamtqphamtq Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Just tell her you need to talk to her in person when she gets back. Tell her it's important.

    When she comes back go somewhere like the park and take a walk. Tell her how you feel and make it look like you're doing this because it's better for her. Explain to her she doesn't want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't feel the same way anymore. Tell her it's unfair to HER if you keep going out.

    After all, this is why we date. We need to go through these kinds of things so that we become better people for the ones that we want in our lives.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Djeet wrote: »
    Do NOT break up via a text, Christ that's harsh.
    Don't do it by email or voicemail either.
    Suck it up and have the bad talk. She's going to think you're a dick, and you just have to deal with that instead of wanting her not to be upset at you; she is going to be upset at you. And stay and listen to all the crying and hurt, and don't make up afterwards cause you'll just have to do it again.

    When you don't have the money to go there in person you have no choice other than to do it over the phone. This is one reason why I no longer even contemplate having another long distance relationship.

    Well, that is an extenuating circumstance. But, even then, texting is just wrong. If you have to do it over the phone that's one thing but breaking up with someone isn't something that you should do with any passive means of communication (IM, text, dear john letter, voicemail, e-mail). If you can, do it in person. If you absolutely can't, then at least have the decency to take a little heat by doing it over the phone. It's not fair to put someone out of a relationship in a manner in which they can't get closure or at least vent a little bit. The first simile that popped into my mind was shooting an unarmed man in the back.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The problem with breaking up by phone is that it never has the finality of doing it in person. This usually means the breakup tends to take longer then is healthy. Additionally, if you ever do see her again, it just makes it that much more awkward.

    I'm voting for in person, just because while it is harder to do, it is better in the long run.

    As for what to say, I'll just echo what's been said. Be honest. Break it off clean with no chance for backsies. And whatever you do, don't sleep with her when you go up there.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'd do it over the phone. Driving all the way there will just get her hopes up for something good, and then you'll crush her even more.

    As other people have said, make sure she knows there is no chance for her. You don't have to be mean, just be firm.

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  • CoJoeTheLawyerCoJoeTheLawyer Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
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    Be a man and at least drive out to see her to break up with her. It may cost you a couple dollars in gas and some extra drama, but it shows you respect her. Plus, I'm sure she has possessions of yours you would want back, and vice versa. Bring her stuff along so you can get the hostage exchange out of the way. Be honest, but be brief. Expect some tears and to feel rotten fro a few days, but you'll survive, and be better off in the long run.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Do not do it over the phone. Go and see her, do it in person. It sucks, but it's the best way.

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    edited August 2007
    I disagree with everybody who says to drive out there. Long distance relationship = long distance breakup.

    A breakup should be short, sweet, and to the point. What are you planning to do... drive 6 hours, spend 30 minutes talking to her, and then drive 6 hours home? Fuck that. All that's going to do is increase the chances that the conversation will get long, ugly, and pointless.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Feral wrote: »
    I disagree with everybody who says to drive out there. Long distance relationship = long distance breakup.

    A breakup should be short, sweet, and to the point. What are you planning to do... drive 6 hours, spend 30 minutes talking to her, and then drive 6 hours home? Fuck that. All that's going to do is increase the chances that the conversation will get long, ugly, and pointless.

    Agree 100%

    When you think about it, you're breaking up for yourself, not for her. It's an asshole way to look at it but you're not enjoying it anymore and you're ending it. If you were a completely selfless person, like a saint or something, then you'd probably stick it out and you'd suffer for it.

    Given that you're already breaking up with her, why make this huge gesture by driving all the way out there? Three years is a good stretch of time, but it's a long distance relationship, it's not like she's next door.

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  • SynapseSynapse Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Feral wrote: »
    I disagree with everybody who says to drive out there. Long distance relationship = long distance breakup.

    A breakup should be short, sweet, and to the point. What are you planning to do... drive 6 hours, spend 30 minutes talking to her, and then drive 6 hours home? Fuck that. All that's going to do is increase the chances that the conversation will get long, ugly, and pointless.

    Exactly. Just do it over the phone (this coming from someone who has experience both ways, and prefers to do it in person).

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Feral wrote: »
    I disagree with everybody who says to drive out there. Long distance relationship = long distance breakup.

    A breakup should be short, sweet, and to the point. What are you planning to do... drive 6 hours, spend 30 minutes talking to her, and then drive 6 hours home? Fuck that. All that's going to do is increase the chances that the conversation will get long, ugly, and pointless.

    Yeah. I'm with Feral on this. If it was only an hour drive or something, then yeah, I can see going to do it in person. But six hours? I think phone is allright then.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    They've been together 3 years... I can't see a phone call cutting it.

    Either way, it is gonna suck, so just go with whatever your conscience will allow.

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  • ZifnabZifnab Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Sentry wrote:
    so just go with whatever your conscience will allow.
    See, that's the problem. My conscience says both. I've always been strongly opposed to doing it over the phone, but telling her that I'm coming to visit will lead to days of excitement and preparations for me to stay, etc, that are going to be dashed by the breakup. If I tell her I'm coming up but won't be staying, she'll know some shit's going down. It's just a tough situation, I guess.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Don't over nice it. I (and pretty much everyone else ever) has made that mistake. You'll just make it worse. Someone said short, sweet and to the point. So true.

    And don't over do the 'its not you' bullshit. Because it is her. If she is 1- deeply into you and 2- has no idea there are problems there is no way you can break up without hurting her. The more you try not to hurt her the more confusing the breakup is going to be.

    as the great minds that are my chemical romance once said-
    "When you go
    would you have the guts to say
    I don't love you
    like I loved you
    yesterDAYAYAY"


    also I don't really think you need to go there. But if you do decide to make sure she doesn't think its gonna be for the funtimes.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Don't tell her you're coming to visit. Drive there and then call her, say "I'm in the area, wondering if we can meet to talk."

    That should at least get it on the radar that something is up.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Just call. No one's keeping score.

    She's 6 hours away. If you try to break up with her in person, it's a 6 hr drive. You will either do it right away, which SHOULD result in you turning right back around and driving for another 6 hours. Or you will pussy out and not do it, because you don't want to be rude to her face, and you'll be back to "dammit, I really should do this!"

    There are numerous ways to break up with someone. Some are less rude than others. They all accomplish the same end result, though. I would want to talk to a girl face to face if I had serious problems and wanted to consider some time apart. If I wanted to dump a girl, I would do it in a way that allows a clean break, so phone or meeting in a public space nearby.

    It's not like you're proposing to her over sms. You're breaking up with her. You're not likely to see her much, if ever again. She's going to think you're a jerk no matter how you do it.

    Personally, decisions like this are regarded best when they're finished as they're decided. You decided to break up with her. You can call her tonight and it's over with. If you wait to do it face to face, you need to "plan a breakup." Who the hell plans a breakup!?

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