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Best AGP video card out there?
The Glock
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking of buying a new video card, but my motherboard is so old it only takes AGP cards. I've heard that the GeForce 7800 GS is pretty solid, but if you guys have heard of any others, I'd love to hear about them.
I'm thinking of buying a new video card, but my motherboard is so old it only takes AGP cards. I've heard that the GeForce 7800 GS is pretty solid, but if you guys have heard of any others, I'd love to hear about them.
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where does this AGP fit in?
oh and to answer your question
http://www.gpureview.com/superlatives.php?PHPSESSID=02c64ffa58457aa7ca0c292ce1b49469
It only has one AGP slot and like 4 PCI slots.
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Totally useless.
[Edit] Glock just save up and get a new rig. New mobo and processor should do you fine.
I liked it a lot
It runs everything I've thrown at is.
I can run Oblivion with everything maxed at 1680x1050 widescreen resolution, and never drop below 20FPS (it only goes that low in the main city, outside of the city it runs VERY smooth, and in the dungeons, even smoother).
Of course, if the rest of your PC is also from 2002, then a fast videocard isn't going to do jack squat. You'll also need a fast processor, and fast/lots of ram.
You'd probably be better of getting an entirely new system.
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They chamption the 7950GT but the X1950Pro is less than 5% slower in many benchmarks. The pro was meant to compete against the 7900gs but it was so fast they released an underclocked pro to the mid-range market, and called it the x1950gt. I ended up buying one, and I couldn't get the core to artificact when I stress tested and overclocked it. It was in the 700s (stock is 594) before it just lost display (probably a voltage issue, not a heat issue).
What this means is that you can get a x1950gt for a little over $100, overclock it to an x1950Pro on the stock cooler, which competes with the 7950GT, a $300 card.
my reasoning is that since you are stuck on AGP, you probably have a single core CPU and 512mb of ram and as such won't benefit from a better video card. (However, if you have a good dual-core CPU and 1GB of ram or more, get something better.)
If you don't play too many games, get an All in Wonder card from ATI's clearance center.
Currently, there's an All in Wonder Radeon 9600 for 80$ CAD.
http://www.shopati.ca/product.asp?sku=3266888
That thing can watch TV.
Blame greedy companies, I guess.
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And the later AGP cards from the GeForce 6 and 7 series and Radeon X000 and X1000 series cards are more than fast enough to be bottlenecked by the single core processors of the time.
The PCIe slot does provide extra power, but power consumption is getting so out of control that the next generation of video cards may be external and come with a power cord. Then everyone will have to buy PCIe 2.0.
At least it'll be a lot less hassle to install them.
And you could buy 1 card for multiple computers.
personally, with my 2.4 P4 and 2.5gigs o'ram I use a Radeon x800XT and it does very well. older pixel shaders though, but it runs a lot of the important games (WoW, HL, Doom/Quake, Battlefield) like butter.
that's all I know on AGP. let it never become obsolete!
FSAA on the V5500, single and dual-chip configurations, molex power connectors long before anyone else thought of it... I'm telling you, even when 3dfx was doing things wrong, they were doing things right! What higher-performance graphics card today, in the same position as the V5500 was back then, isn't just as big? And everyone laughed at it when it first arrived... man, I loved those cards.
Wow... not been using pc's long, have we?
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Yes, but it was a sign of things to come, but nobody else thought of that when they were laughing at them!
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"Technology makes things smaller, not bigger like that. Silly 3DFX."
Quite
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Seriously, passive aggression aside, using the wrong kind of technology isn't really something to applaud. SLI cards are still mostly worthless for the advantages they bring, and dualcore processors were only brought in because hardware hit the physical limit of how much you can clock it, not because it's superior to a single, faster chip. It's kind of like praising someone for sticking a loud fan on their CPU when their competition gets the same result with passive cooling.
[edit] Summary: they were laughed at because they had a monster card (ah ah) but offered little for it compared to the competition, not because the technology was Sparta.
Nono, I agree, I was just having a laugh. I did say they were doing things wrongly, didn't I? :P
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I do miss 3dfx. I really wish they could've stayed the course, despite their many fuck-ups. The Rampage was interesting, as was the Fear technology.
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Currently running and old 2600+ @ stock speed, 1 gig PC2700, nf7-s and an X800XT AIW card. It runs everything new just fine at medium to high settings with an acceptable frame rate, and older games it just destroys. So whats all this talk about you need a dual core chip and 2gigs plus ram? Do you really have any app or game thats multithreaded to take advantage of both those cores? Is your PC such a ram hog to think you NEED 2 gigs of ram?
Comon people. Streamline your shit and quite chucking FUD out there about AGP being obselete. It may be out dated now, but its certinly still a viable platform.
No, I don't need a dual-core chip, 2GB of RAM and so on. But I had the money available, as I knew I wouldn't again for a long time, so I built myself a new pc. It's meant to last, so I got the best of everything available. However, it's not like my old pc and parts go in the bin... friends and family receive them, so they're still in use.
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Aw, I loved Glide... I still can't play Wheel of Time at the same level of detail with my GeForce 8800 GTS as I could with my Voodoo5 5500. Unless you know of a wrapper that will cover said card, as all the ones available, last time I checked (admittedly a long time ago) were for the Voodoo3 3000, and none of them were particularly good...
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Its one thing to get them because you can, but its a different story when people start spouting BS about how agp is dead and you need a dual core and a shit ton of ram to get any kind of performance. Its absurd!
Oh, well, that is true. My Athlon64 3000+, 1GB PC2700 and Radeon X800 GTO ran every modern game at high enough settings, so I know this well enough.
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And dont even get me started on people claiming you need a ridiculously high wattage power supply. My rage will grow exponentially. 500w is MORE than enough for 98% of the PC’s out there your retarded hairless chimps!
But of course, why settle for original when you can improve with things like anisotropic filtering, bumpmapping and bloom? Mmm, purdy.
I miss the days of Voodoo2's, glide, and SLI being worth a damn.
I do kick myself for not upgrading to a PCI-E system back when I had the chance. But it was all about how much $$$ I had at the time.
AMD Sempron 2500+, 512mb ram, Radeon X800XL.
As for glide, I don't like it, if only because it only ran on 3dfx cards and wasn't open for everyone to use.
Well I think it was because glide purposefully didn't have a level of abstraction that openGL and direct3d did at the time. Back when video cards weren't that powerful, having the overhead of an abstraction layer allowing an API to be used on any card was sometimes just too slow, so glide gave more specific, low level access to 3dfx hardware. That kind of thing wouldn't have been easy for everyone to use.
This is probably the best choice. However, it has obscene power requirements, and if you don't have a really good Power Supply already (generally something 600W or greater will have the required voltage on the rails) then you will be spending at least $150 on a new PSU and just as much on the card itself. If you don't, you run the risk of the card or even the PSU dying.
So again, best bet, save up your cash and get a newer system, instead of sinking money into an older one that can only last so long.
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honestly your ram is the only real thing holding you back. throw in another 512 and you'll see a world of difference.
i'll overlook the statement of a 600w power supply. Must avoid getting angry. :x