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Moments of the Weeks 08/01/07

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2007
    smokmnky wrote: »
    The problem with Scarecrow's reliance on the fear gas is that it limited him as a character. Time and time again, as illustrated during Batman's pursuit in this issue, Scarecrow would follow the same pattern after breaking out of Arkham.

    Make a costume.

    Assemble some fear gas.

    Try to expose as many people as possible, maybe rob a bank.

    And truth be told, that was it. That's not to say there wasn't the potential for a good Scarecrow story, though. However, the main draw of any Scarecrow story was always the depiction of the effects of the fear gas, and in that way Johnathan Crane himself wasn't really the most interesting part of his own stories. Rather, it was just the gas, and whenever a particularly good depiction of fear came about you really couldn't chalk that up as a win for Crane because, frankly, the gas was doing all the work and Crane was just a delivery mechanism. Hell, he wasn't even creating fear in the first place, but rather simply tricking the mind into being afraid. Everything was an illusion, and so there Scarecrow wasn't even much of a threat in the first place, especially to someone who can overcome false fears as easily as Batman (after the obligatory clutching of his parents' grave, of course).

    But with this new take, we see Crane doing more than simpl dousing people with chemicals. Instead, he's actually making use of his background in psychology and creating fear the old fashioned way. In one short issue, he's managed to put the whole of Gotham in the grips of terror, something he'd often tried and failed to do as Batman always showed up to stop the spread of his fear gas. What's more, there is no antidote to real fear. Batman can't neutralize the gas, nor can he even make the conventional display of willpower to save himself. Everyone in Gotham now has a real reason to be afraid, and so Scarecrow has become a true master of fear.

    So this was all from the latest Detective Comics? I might have to start reading that.

    you should have started reading it last year when Paul Dini took over

    this issue wasn't by him (he takes breaks), but it's the first not-Dini issue that was actually good

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    smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Keith wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »

    So this was all from the latest Detective Comics? I might have to start reading that.

    you should have started reading it last year when Paul Dini took over

    this issue wasn't by him (he takes breaks), but it's the first not-Dini issue that was actually good

    Well I haven't actually been buying/reading comics for a year yet! so there :P

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2007
    smokmnky wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »

    So this was all from the latest Detective Comics? I might have to start reading that.

    you should have started reading it last year when Paul Dini took over

    this issue wasn't by him (he takes breaks), but it's the first not-Dini issue that was actually good

    Well I haven't actually been buying/reading comics for a year yet! so there :P

    that's no excuse

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    smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Keith wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »

    So this was all from the latest Detective Comics? I might have to start reading that.

    you should have started reading it last year when Paul Dini took over

    this issue wasn't by him (he takes breaks), but it's the first not-Dini issue that was actually good

    Well I haven't actually been buying/reading comics for a year yet! so there :P

    that's no excuse

    touche salesman...I too have an uncle

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It's true, the Detective Comics are really good. I actually picked up this latest one because Scarecrow was always my favorite Batman villain that wasn't the Joker when I was a kid. So I saw it and was all, "Heck yes Batman."

    Then I read it to find that Scarecrow genuinely creepy. Seriously, it's so awesome.

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    tbumpkinstbumpkins Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Keith wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »
    The problem with Scarecrow's reliance on the fear gas is that it limited him as a character. Time and time again, as illustrated during Batman's pursuit in this issue, Scarecrow would follow the same pattern after breaking out of Arkham.

    Make a costume.

    Assemble some fear gas.

    Try to expose as many people as possible, maybe rob a bank.

    And truth be told, that was it. That's not to say there wasn't the potential for a good Scarecrow story, though. However, the main draw of any Scarecrow story was always the depiction of the effects of the fear gas, and in that way Johnathan Crane himself wasn't really the most interesting part of his own stories. Rather, it was just the gas, and whenever a particularly good depiction of fear came about you really couldn't chalk that up as a win for Crane because, frankly, the gas was doing all the work and Crane was just a delivery mechanism. Hell, he wasn't even creating fear in the first place, but rather simply tricking the mind into being afraid. Everything was an illusion, and so there Scarecrow wasn't even much of a threat in the first place, especially to someone who can overcome false fears as easily as Batman (after the obligatory clutching of his parents' grave, of course).

    But with this new take, we see Crane doing more than simpl dousing people with chemicals. Instead, he's actually making use of his background in psychology and creating fear the old fashioned way. In one short issue, he's managed to put the whole of Gotham in the grips of terror, something he'd often tried and failed to do as Batman always showed up to stop the spread of his fear gas. What's more, there is no antidote to real fear. Batman can't neutralize the gas, nor can he even make the conventional display of willpower to save himself. Everyone in Gotham now has a real reason to be afraid, and so Scarecrow has become a true master of fear.

    So this was all from the latest Detective Comics? I might have to start reading that.

    you should have started reading it last year when Paul Dini took over

    this issue wasn't by him (he takes breaks), but it's the first not-Dini issue that was actually good

    And there's the problem right there. Guy tries to give his wallet a break for once and cool Batman stuff happens, like Scarecrow becoming a bunch of crows sown together or some shit.

    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    There should be a stupidest moment of the week thread too because I'd give to WWH3. That last page looked redonkulous. "ARGH I HAVE SCARY MACE HANDS!!"

    as cheesy as that was I loved it

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    HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Algertman wrote: »
    There should be a stupidest moment of the week thread too because I'd give to WWH3. That last page looked redonkulous. "ARGH I HAVE SCARY MACE HANDS!!"

    as cheesy as that was I loved it

    It's more effective once you realize what the heck it was Strange was actually summoning.

    Bad move, Doc.

    I guess this is what the previews were talking about with Dr. Strange going too far.

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Illuminati 4 wasn't as good as it should have been.

    That was my un-moment of the week.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    he's been dead for like two years man. give a dude a minute to get his bearings, jeeze.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    he fights Iron Man next issue.

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    BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Plus he had that smackdown with the hordes of...wherever in issue one.

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    Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Servo wrote: »
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    he's been dead for like two years man. give a dude a minute to get his bearings, jeeze.

    And we're only on issue two.

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    What does this bit even mean? Thor has to spend all issue, every issue smashing things?

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    What does this bit even mean? Thor has to spend all issue, every issue smashing things?

    It sure would make the 'Thor visits the puppy farm' issue more entertaining.

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Munch wrote: »
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    What does this bit even mean? Thor has to spend all issue, every issue smashing things?

    It sure would make the 'Thor visits the puppy farm' issue more entertaining.

    I would have words with thee, Mr. Barky Von Snauser!

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    JCMJCM Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bad Karma wrote: »
    Servo wrote: »
    tbumpkins wrote: »
    And am I the only one that finds the new Thor so far as pathetic as Superman Returns? Sure looks great, but fucking come on, this is Superman/Thor!

    he's been dead for like two years man. give a dude a minute to get his bearings, jeeze.

    And we're only on issue two.

    Well, I have never seen Thor loosing over and over to some bald weak guy.


    Nor can mountains of a type of rock bring him to his knees, so I´d say no, this is far from Superman. Next issue he´s gonna talk to Iron Man, btww, Thor-style.

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    HayasaHayasa Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Illuminati 4 wasn't as good as it should have been.

    That was my un-moment of the week.
    But what about the startling revelation that
    Dr Strange is a hockey fan?

    Rangers or Islanders? Or Devils?

    So many questions yet to be answered!

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    Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I don't really understand all the "Wonder Woman is one of the big three in the DCU" crap. While Wonder Woman's running around trying to chat with her nutcase of a mum and wondering who she is, Black Canary is kicking ass:
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    Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I don't really understand all the "Wonder Woman is one of the big three in the DCU" crap. While Wonder Woman's running around trying to chat with her nutcase of a mum and wondering who she is, Black Canary is kicking ass:
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    You need to follow that up with the...


    Merlyn: Y'know, I beat your boyfriend single-handedly

    Black Canary: So did I.

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    New Warriors: Last Page With Night Thrasher

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    DivebommahDivebommah Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Algertman wrote: »
    New Warriors: Last Page With Night Thrasher

    What was all that about? Why did he go all
    giant man

    like that?

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Illuminati was so awesome

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    LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Divebommah wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    New Warriors: Last Page With Night Thrasher

    What was all that about? Why did he go all
    giant man

    like that?


    My guess? Some kind of hallucenagen in the gas.

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    They have Pym particles. They shrunk someone earlier in the series. Chances are he legitimately grew.

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Metal Men was pretty damn perfect, that may qualify for my moment of the week.

    But I don't know, Ted... Teeeeeeeed...

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    Metal Men was pretty damn perfect, that may qualify for my moment of the week.

    But I don't know, Ted... Teeeeeeeed...

    I liked the "Superman can't punch a magician" line

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    Sharp101Sharp101 TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Did no one mention Machine Man in Mrs Marvel acting almost identical to how he was in Nextwave?

    Its fucking awesome!

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    CerriusCerrius Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Its on Page 1 of this thread, Sharp.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Also, future note: It's Ms. Marvel :P
    That way she doesn't have to change her name if she ever gets married.

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    bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Stormwatch PHD #9, I loves me a good whodunnit in general but the real roffle was the machinist's alibi
    Watching porn on the Stormwatch surveillance room monitors - "The definition on these screens is to die for. Plus, I charged it all to the government"

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    IrohIroh Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I just read half of my stack of books from the last two weeks, and Detective Comics was really damned good for not being a Dini issue.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    On one hand, Stack seems a bit over the top when he's not around all the other Nextwave characters.

    On the other, it's good to see another sign of Nextwave being kept in continuity, more or less.

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    CerriusCerrius Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    My moment of the week was winning two Sin City collections (Hard Goodbye and Yellow Bastard) for doing 20 push-ups and for getting a trivia question right.

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    Mr PinkMr Pink I got cats for youRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    My moment of the week was finding out that there is a comic shop where I moved.

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Cerrius wrote: »
    My moment of the week was winning two Sin City collections (Hard Goodbye and Yellow Bastard) for doing 20 push-ups and for getting a trivia question right.

    That's also the 2 best stories

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    delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    moment of this week?

    easy

    thor #2
    the panels when he transformed in the desert. good old golden age style transformation with the cane.

    also thor's awesome realty haggling skills.

    "take what you need. Do not return."

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    CerriusCerrius Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Algertman wrote: »
    Cerrius wrote: »
    My moment of the week was winning two Sin City collections (Hard Goodbye and Yellow Bastard) for doing 20 push-ups and for getting a trivia question right.

    That's also the 2 best stories

    Thats why I picked 'em. I'm going to try and pick up another one or two if Dark Horse sends more next time.

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    The_LightbringerThe_Lightbringer Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Cerrius wrote: »
    My moment of the week was winning two Sin City collections (Hard Goodbye and Yellow Bastard) for doing 20 push-ups and for getting a trivia question right.

    That sounded like one of the easiest contests ever

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    well, nerds and push ups...

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